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Old 02.10.2018, 13:32
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Spray water at them when they smoke, it's the same thing really.

I disagree to it being the same thing however. Passive smoke kills, water sprayed on you might do a variety of things to you but cancer and death are unlikely to be one of them
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You smell smoke? Call the fire department.
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I disagree to it being the same thing however. Passive smoke kills, water sprayed on you might do a variety of things to you but cancer and death are unlikely to be one of them
Actually, I saw a documentary once and there was somebody who got water poured on her and she actually melted and died. And also there were some flying monkeys and a little dog and, oh I'll see if I can find the name of it. Fascinating stuff!
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Old 02.10.2018, 14:55
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Passive smoke kills
No, it doesn't.

It may, or may not, increase you chances of developing cancer or other diseases, but pretty much anything does, including water.

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I can argue in French, in a French speaking canton.. And one day soon enough, I will do it.. And by the way guys, groaning at my non-abusive post? Whatever! There goes my record of not being groaned at ever!
Well, not getting groaned at in only 101 comments is not that challenging Or rather: if you get a lot of groans in 101 comment, you're doing something wrong or are just a troll.


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Depends on the water.

You are as likely to drop dead from a whiff of passive smoke as you are likely to drop dead from a spray of water.
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No, it doesn't.

It may, or may not, increase you chances of developing cancer or other diseases, but pretty much anything does, including water.

Tom

Drinking water is my choice, but inhaling smoke when your neighbour is chain smoking is not. I can choose not to drink polluted water, but I cannot ask the breeze to blow in the other direction. And please don't say "close your windows" because that is not the point as I am not voluntarily going to a smoker's house and asking him to blow smoke on my face. Comparing cancer from water to cancer from smoke is simply asinine.
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Drinking water is my choice, but inhaling smoke when your neighbour is chain smoking is not. I can choose not to drink polluted water, but I cannot ask the breeze to blow in the other direction. And please don't say "close your windows" because that is not the point as I am not voluntarily going to a smoker's house and asking him to blow smoke on my face. Comparing cancer from water to cancer from smoke is simply asinine.
That's the calibre of argument used on here to defend passive smoking!

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Comparing cancer from water to cancer from smoke is simply asinine.
No, it's not.

Water in certain communities around here (not ours) contain high levels of arsenic.

Arsenic kills, unlike passive smoke.

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No, it's not.

Water in certain communities around here (not ours) contain high levels of arsenic.

Arsenic kills, unlike passive smoke.

Tom

You do not understand, do you? First of all, if the water is polluted, I have the choice to change my tap (if it is due to lead in the tap / paint) and if it is arsenic in the ground water, then everyone is equally affected. And you have the right to ask the government or even sue them to change / purify the water source (Whether circumstances allow you do or not is another matter). As a non-smoker, it is silly to have no choice but to accept my neighbour smoking and the stench filling up my living room.



And for your info, the post of the OP is about passive smoking in "Switzerland" and not about passive smoking elsewhere. So, kindly read and re-read your own post to see if it makes even an iota of sense!


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Re: Passive smoking law?

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We have to take our pleasures where we can. Are a few puffs of smoke in your flat really such a bad thing?
I think the issue is, most smokers don't realize how horrible the smell of burned cigarettes is. Their smell buds are mostly killed anyway. Pipe/hand-rolled tobacco is better, vape smells usually acceptably, but cigarettes...

Let's put it this way - if given smoker would smear his feces all over him, I would very much accept this smell compared to cigarette smoke. That comes from a person who smoked for few years during university.

Then there is whole topic of drug dependency and some hints on the weakness of one's character (I've never met a smoker who never tried to quit, most failed). But that's a topic on its own, and frankly if people want to destroy themselves in pretty horrible ways, let them go. Just make them pay medical services while they can via taxes, and restrict activities that harm others, like public smoking.

Is a fresh smell of somebody's manure in your flat such a bad thing?
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I think the issue is, most smokers don't realize how horrible the smell of burned cigarettes is. Their smell buds are mostly killed anyway. Pipe/hand-rolled tobacco is better, vape smells usually acceptably, but cigarettes...

Let's put it this way - if given smoker would smear his feces all over him, I would very much accept this smell compared to cigarette smoke. That comes from a person who smoked for few years during university.

Then there is whole topic of drug dependency and some hints on the weakness of one's character (I've never met a smoker who never tried to quit, most failed). But that's a topic on its own, and frankly if people want to destroy themselves in pretty horrible ways, let them go. Just make them pay medical services while they can via taxes, and restrict activities that harm others, like public smoking.

Is a fresh smell of somebody's manure in your flat such a bad thing?
Pffft. It's not that bad, unless you've got a bee in your bonnet about it.

Whatever happened to live and let live?
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And for your info, the post of the OP is about passive smoking in "Switzerland" and not about passive smoking elsewhere. So, kindly read and re-read your own post to see if it makes even an iota of sense!
I am talking about Switzerland, not elsewhere.

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Whatever happened to live and let live?

What happened to 'you smoke and let me live without smoke'.. Does live and let live apply only to smokers? What sort of blatant hypocrisy is that?


Seems like all the nice principles of life apply only to people who actually do not care about others around them. Fascinating skulduggery!
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What happened to you smoke and let me live without smoke.. Does live and let live apply only to smokers? What sort of blatant hypocrisy is that?
Neither DB nor I smoke.

OK, I smoke meat, fish and chiles, but NOT cigarettes!

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What happened to 'you smoke and let me live without smoke'.. Does live and let live apply only to smokers? What sort of blatant hypocrisy is that?


Seems like all the nice principles of life apply only to people who actually do not care about others around them. Fascinating skulduggery!
I don't smoke.

In what way, therefore, am I a hypocrite?
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In what way, therefore, am I a hypocrite?

Your support for smokers saying that non-smokers should put up with passive smoking makes you one...
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