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The New Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

Average salary for expats is now apparently CHF200K according to the “Show Me the Money” ranking by the latest survey! ($203k converted to CHF at roughly 0.99)

Time to switch jobs me thinks!

Link: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-move-overseas
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Re: The we Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

I think the only righteous conclusion can be:

The expat who has taken this survey has a higher average income compared to expats not taking the survey.
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Old 11.10.2018, 19:37
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Re: The we Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

Whoever took a survey must have been “killjoy”

Reading it, I have an impression that I’m highly underpaid
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Old 11.10.2018, 19:53
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Reading it, I have an impression that I’m highly underpaid
Or you are not an expat but a filthy low paid immigrant. /s
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Old 11.10.2018, 19:55
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Or you are not an expat but a filthy low paid immigrant. /s
If I had agreed with everything Bloomberg suggests, I would have been one of the most gullible investors on the planet earth.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bloomberg/
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Old 11.10.2018, 20:51
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Re: The we Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

Is that monthly or annually ?
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Old 11.10.2018, 21:17
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Re: The we Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

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I think the only righteous conclusion can be:

The expat who has taken this survey has a higher average income compared to expats not taking the survey.
It’s a known fact that averages (arithmetic means) are not a good barometer for estimating “typical” incomes because of the way that the very high salaries (i.e outliers) skew this figure.

This can easily be demonstrated by this example:

- 2 poor immigrant earning 80k per year.
- 7 average Joes from EF earning 120k per year.
- 1 big swinging **** expat earning 1m per year.

Mean (Average) = CHF200K
Median = 120k?
Mode = 120k

Still the mean is probably good enough for click bait articles. If anything it probably shows that there are probably a lot more high earners skewing the figures for us paupers!
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Is that monthly or annually ?
Oh. Assumed it was an hourly rate.
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Old 11.10.2018, 21:21
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Oh. Assumed it was an hourly rate.
Gee, it makes all those earning 120k p/a on the EF look like being ripped off big time
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Oh. Assumed it was an hourly rate.



Probably is in Zimbabwe
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Re: The New Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

Interesting that average salaries for expats in India and Indonesia are around $130k though... I mean that would mean that expats are living like kings over there no?
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Re: The New Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

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Interesting that average salaries for expats in India and Indonesia are around $130k though... I mean that would mean that expats are living like kings over there no?
As an expat, they keep their home salary.
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Re: The New Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

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As an expat, they keep their home salary.
Can imagine that someone going from a higher salary country to India or Indonesia would only agree to do so for at least the same salary + ensuring that his family’s standard of living doesn’t take a hit. (E.g. schooling of kids in a good international school)

But still, does no one immigrate to India from lower salary countries? Or do those not qualify for being called expats?!
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Re: The New Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

Definiton of expats:

Expats are especially pampered immigrants.

Useful foreign executives with tax privileges that do not have
to integrate. They are first class immigrants.
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They are first class tossers.
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Re: The New Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

Can someone please pass one of these outrageously well paid positions to me? Or to my husband, that would do too. Hard to live in such a country on one “poor immigrant salary”
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Re: The New Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

Maybe the definition of expat is that of one using some premium tier relocation services which organize you a private school for your kids, a nice house for the spouse etc. The newspaper is pretending to be read by such a corporate careerist class do it is selling that image to its readers, where the rest of the lot is just immigrants or maybe skilled immigrants.
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Re: The New Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

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Definiton of expats:

Expats are especially pampered immigrants.

Useful foreign executives with tax privileges that do not have
to integrate. They are first class immigrants.
That is utter and complete bullshit. We arrived back in the hey day of expat packages brimming with extras, but we pay taxes (in two countries) just like anybody else. We are completely assimilated and are retiring in France in five months and never going back to our original country.



You have no idea what you are talking about and, btw, those stellar expat packages went out the window about 5 years ago. Multinationals only recruit people on local packages now. Get with the times and stop being insulting to people you know nothing about.
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Re: The New Swiss Poverty Line for Expats - CHF200K

There are 3 types of lies:
- Good lies
- Bad lies
- Statistics and surveys
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those stellar expat packages went out the window about 5 years ago.
Not entirely, though I’ll grant you they’re becoming both less lucrative and rarer.
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