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Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

Considering that so many apartment blocks have no lift, and almost no apartment has air conditioning.
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Old 25.11.2018, 21:05
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Re: Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

At least they are larger than the shoeboxes they consider apartments elsewhere and they come with their own full kitchen, contrary to some countries.

No one's stopping you to buy aircon but it's hardly a basic right (contrary to, arguably, a kitchen). And pretty much every building built after at least 2000 if not earlier indeed has an elevator. Otherwise walking up all of 20 steps or so isn't exactly too much to ask.
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Re: Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

You aren’t an overweight American by chance, are you?
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No one's stopping you to buy aircon

The landlord can stop you
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Re: Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

No, why is that relevant?
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Considering that so many apartment blocks have no lift, and almost no apartment has air conditioning.

Do they have such things in Germany where apartments don't even come with a furnished kitchens?
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Do they have such things in Germany where apartments don't even come with a furnished kitchens?
Definitely. and its easier to install a kitchen than a lift! Plus Germans, dont even need a kitchen, most Germans dont even shop groceries at the supermarket, as they can afford to go to the restaurant at every single meal, unlike swiss people..
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Re: Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

In Switzerland I have lived in two appartments, both of them with a lift. In Germany I lived in three appartmentes, none of them had a lift.
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Old 25.11.2018, 22:06
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Re: Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

Why do I feel like I'm experiencing deja vu?
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Old 25.11.2018, 22:23
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Re: Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

Basing the standard of living on lifts and air conditioning, what a bizarre thing to do.
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Re: Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

ooh ahh... I live without air conditioning, a lift, or a car!


My 'indulgence' is good air quality, safety on the street, a job that I love, and the freedom to travel to anywhere I wish...
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Re: Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

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Considering that so many apartment blocks have no lift, and almost no apartment has air conditioning.
Not only that:
No toilet flushing after 10 pm
A shared washing machine that you can only use every second Tuesday from 2 - 4
No lawn mowing on Sunday
An elderly Swiss neighbor watching everything you do
Trains that are often late. Even up to 4 minutes.
And most of all, still not all Swiss people speak fluent English
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Considering that so many apartment blocks have no lift, and almost no apartment has air conditioning.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=fat+g...aVNzPK6x71EbM:

This cart clearly shows Zuerich nor Switzerland have no living Standarts
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Definitely. and its easier to install a kitchen than a lift! Plus Germans, dont even need a kitchen, most Germans dont even shop groceries at the supermarket, as they can afford to go to the restaurant at every single meal, unlike swiss people..

Something smells of cow shit around here, and the farmers weren't out today.......
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Why do I feel like I'm experiencing deja vu?
Because you live yourself in an apartment at the 4th floor without lift?
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Definitely. and its easier to install a kitchen than a lift! Plus Germans, dont even need a kitchen, most Germans dont even shop groceries at the supermarket, as they can afford to go to the restaurant at every single meal, unlike swiss people..
Ah forgive him, ‘cause he has experienced little of life....

In Germany, like every country there are plenty of people struggling to get through the week. In time you will appreciate just how fortunate you were to have parents that were able to provide well for their family. Don’t take them for granted.
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Re: Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

Ahhh, one of those threads when the troll will be out-trolled. Mondays are great.
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Old 26.11.2018, 07:57
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Re: Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

I live in an apartment block with a lift, but I never use it as I like the exercise and my flat doesn't have aircon as it's so well insulated, it's cool in the summer (even with a south facing balcony) and warm in the winter (right now I only have the bathroom radiator on).

So to answer your (absolutely dumb) question yes, living standards in Zürich really are that high.
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Re: Are living standards in Zurich really that high?

Having no air conditioning definitely increases my standard of living here tremendously. I came from a place where air conditioning was common and suffered horribly. I remember my mother being afraid to take me shopping in summer back home as it would bring on a full blown allergy attack because of the air conditioning. My allergies have never been better since living here.

I've never had an apt.here with a lift and consider it a waste of space and additional cost. At the office I'm on 4th out of 4 floors and take the stairs and shun the lift. It's part of my weekday training for weekend hikes. I see a lot of the new staff (mostly millenials) waiting for the lift, often only a floor or two, and wonder what the issue is, it's much faster and healthier to take the stairs. I am also afraid what this does to society, at age 40 they will probably have heart failure if the lift is out of service a day.

But I live in swiss romande, so I guess the standard of living here is much better than in Zurich.
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Considering that so many apartment blocks have no lift, and almost no apartment has air conditioning.
We have lifts and AC at home and at work.

And three of our cars have AC!

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