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Old 05.12.2018, 13:06
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Re: Schmutzli: Racist or not?

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Doesn't change the fact that American manufacturing is what won the war in the end, not British tenacity.
I thought it was German scientists that ended the war for the Americans?
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But you do know that the UK helped to deliver the Lend-Lease aid to the Russians, don't you?
Absolutely, no question there. In fact, if you want a list of "guilty" ones, its quite long, but definitely led by Nazi Germany and a very very close second is the USSR.

I just wanted to stress that the bizarre obsession of the Brits with WWII is factually incorrect as they were in a heavy knock-down most of the war and managed to get up just around the end, which was brought by the Americans and the Russians.
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Old 05.12.2018, 13:57
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Doesn't change the fact that American manufacturing is what won the war in the end, not British tenacity.
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More than 40k dead and more than 45k injured on British side vs. 2k dead on the German and you call that British victory and German defeat? The famous British cognitive dissonance is alive and well. Test is over.


I thought since the cold war is over we can finally be honest about WW2: The war was won by the Soviet Union. It wasn't American manufacturing, it was Russian tank building. While technically inferior did they chew out numbers the world hasn't seen before (or ever after). Combined with Stalin not giving a thing about his sides death toll was this the decisive factor of the war.


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By mid-1941, the USSR had more than 22,000 tanks—more tanks than all the armies of the world combined, and four times the number of tanks in the German arsenal. By the end of the war, the Soviet Union had produced nearly 60,000 T-34 tanks—proving the point that quantity does have a quality all of its own.

This is in short why the Japanese surrendered to the Americans as soon as Stalin declared war against them. He would invade Hokkaido and then the rest from the North (and probably not give it back...). Nothing to do with the nuclear bombs dropped days before...
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Old 05.12.2018, 13:59
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I thought it was German scientists that ended the war for the Americans?
And Italian.

And Swiss.

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The war was won by the Soviet Union. It wasn't American manufacturing, it was Russian tank building.
Without American help, it's very probable that USSR would not have survived in '41.


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This is in short why the Japanese surrendered to the Americans as soon as Stalin declared war against them. He would invade Hokkaido and then the rest from the North (and probably not give it back...). Nothing to do with the nuclear bombs dropped days before...
This is counterfactual history.
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Old 05.12.2018, 15:51
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Re: Schmutzli: Racist or not?

Schmutzli just called and asked if you would get back to calling him a racist, and stop rambling on about the war...
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Old 05.12.2018, 16:03
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Or that slavery is "historic",

Moderm slavery is arguably more endemic than ever before.
And slavery has existed in Asia *forever* but it's only ever brought up in the context of "former colonial powers"...
This.
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Ask the Dutch..... years long discussion on that
Other than it's not really the Dutch that want to discuss it over and over again.
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Schmutzli just called and asked if you would get back to calling him a racist, and stop rambling on about the war...
Spanking Schmutzli: BDSM or racism?
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Old 05.12.2018, 16:16
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Re: Schmutzli: Racist or not?

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Spanking Schmutzli
Isn't that what you'd call him after a bath, shave and change of clothes?
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Old 05.12.2018, 16:24
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Schmutzli just called and asked if you would get back to calling him a racist, and stop rambling on about the war...
Hear hear!!!! (said the woman who's just got an early chocolate Samiclaus from her landlady)
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Old 05.12.2018, 16:38
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Hear hear!!!! (said the woman who's just got an early chocolate Samiclaus from her landlady)
White chocolate, I hope
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Isn't that what you'd call him after a bath, shave and change of clothes?
not really. I expect him to do all these things before.
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Old 05.12.2018, 17:24
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Without American help, it's very probable that USSR would not have survived in '41.
Which, argubaly, and with the benefit of hindsight, might have been a good thing.

Let the nazis finish off the Soviet Union and then go in and finish off the much wakened Nazis.
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But Verdingkinder https://www.kinderheime-schweiz.ch/de/index.php or Kinder der Landstrasse http://www.stiftung-fahrende.ch/gesc...on-kinder-der? Neither of those was really a secret at all, but something which was not critically spoken about. Or do you mean something else?
I really don't think this is an honest statement. Verdingkinder were not spoken about, and the phenomenon was not publicly acknowledged, critically or otherwise, until recently.

I know of several people who had no idea this slavery existed in their own country, let alone that they had grandparents and great-aunts/uncles who were enslaved, until their nonagenarian relatives told them very recently.

But regardless of whether or not it was discussed in some circles doesn't mean anything wrt a country taking responsibility for past actions.

(Btw I am fully aware this has sod all to do with Schmützli.)
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Isn't that what you'd call him after a bath, shave and change of clothes?
not really. I expect him to do all these things before.
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Actually it was air superiority (British and U.K. based Polish aircrew) that caused the Nazis to cancel, or at least postpone their U.K. invasion plans.

That was the first major German defeat of the war.

At that point the U.S. had no plans to enter the war despite requests from the U.K.
why it has to be always me witch has to point out the CANADIAN contribution

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why it has to be always me which has to point out the CANADIAN contribution
South African, Indian, Australian, Kiwi, ... (insert a dozen more)
The ace Sailor Malan was South African
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Re: Schmutzli: Racist or not?

I think it has been said in here already, Schmutzli is not a negro, it is a type of leprechaun. He is Santas little helper and is meant to scare kids to behave. No racism here.
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