Police powers - Page 5

st2lemans · #81 30.01.2019, 13:11

	Quote:	greenmount
	People have different experiences with police here. Let them express their point of view too.

Even if they are clearly fantasies?

Tom

#82 30.01.2019, 13:54

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Even if they are clearly fantasies? Tom

You mean like this kind of police fantasy..?

TobiasM · #83 30.01.2019, 15:16

	Quote:
	You mean like this kind of police fantasy..?

ffs, nsfw, whoops.

But lets face it most teenage boys wouldnt mind being searched by her.

curley · #84 30.01.2019, 15:20

	Quote:
	You mean like this kind of police fantasy..?

you put this in a completely new light

greenmount · #85 30.01.2019, 18:44

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Even if they are clearly fantasies? Tom

Have you been there? People write lots of paranoia driven racist shit on this forum and there's no reaction. When someone questions police's practices the entire gang is up in arms with groans, stalking and ad hominems.

I have no idea if it's true or not, but if you accept all that shit and even cheer it up without any evidence apart from some drunk poster's word, accept this point of view ahem fantasy too. One post....if you wouldn't try so, so hard to deny the fact that there is some institutionalised discrimination and racism in this country most people wouldn't even notice it. What do you think you achieved here?

st2lemans · #86 30.01.2019, 18:56

	Quote:	TobiasM
	ffs, nsfw, whoops.

Where the hell do you work that that is NSFW?

Tom

curley · #87 30.01.2019, 18:59

	Quote:	greenmount
	Have you been there? People write lots of paranoia driven racist shit on this forum and there's no reaction. When someone questions police's practices the entire gang is up in arms with groans, stalking and ad hominems. I have no idea if it's true or not, but if you accept all that shit and even cheer it up without any evidence apart from some drunk poster's word, accept this point of view ahem fantasy too. One post....if you wouldn't try so, so hard to deny the fact that there is some institutionalised discrimination and racism in this country most people wouldn't even notice it. What do you think you achieved here?

Why do you spend so much time on telling Tom what to think/do/write and what not to?

Don't you have a husband to nag?

greenmount · #88 30.01.2019, 19:00

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Where the hell do you work that that is NSFW? Tom

Who are you, the police now? lol

st2lemans · #89 30.01.2019, 19:00

	Quote:	TobiasM
	But lets face it most teenage boys heterosexual males* wouldnt mind being searched by her.*

FTFY.

Sure beats that fake cop from the Village People!

Tom

greenmount · #90 30.01.2019, 19:05

	Quote:	curley
	Why do you spend so much time on telling Tom what to think/do/write and what not to? Don't you have a husband to nag?

As if this is not what we all do here...lol.

Anyway, I prefer you leave my OH out of this.

st2lemans · #91 30.01.2019, 19:08

	Quote:	greenmount
	I prefer you leave OH out of this.

That counts as nagging.

Tom

greenmount · #92 30.01.2019, 19:12

	Quote:	st2lemans
	That counts as nagging. Tom

Haha, no. OK, let's make peace, you're usually cute....when you don't jump at newbies' throat.

I think Tom1234 will be happy to argue with you every time you give him a reason.....so you'll continue to have this type of fun don't worry.

st2lemans · #93 30.01.2019, 19:18

	Quote:	greenmount
	you're usually cute....

Flirting, now?

Tom

greenmount · #94 30.01.2019, 19:23

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Flirting, now? Tom

Not in public dear...Curley is already watching us...

#95 30.01.2019, 20:23

[QUOTE=st2lemans;3035670]Even if they are clearly fantasies?

It was true and that what happened to me, I find they acted very unprofessionally and the undercover cop without explaining the situation and clearly proving he is from the police only demanded my ID, which I refused to give him in his hands, but I did hold it in my hands, then after a while the real cops arrived and they fully searched me, there were 5 people all together and what I find appalling they did treat me like a criminal, and took away my phone and said I cannot touch anything what they put out of my bag until they finish. So I shared my experience on this thread that it does happen, they can and they will search you if they see fit, and the point that it is not illegal here and one has to accept it as part of life here.

st2lemans · #96 30.01.2019, 20:55

	Quote:	greenmount
	Curley is already watching us...

Not to mention MiniMia...

Spies are EVERYWHERE!

Just ask EDZOOM!

Tom

3Wishes · #97 30.01.2019, 21:17

Back and forth, back and forth.

No, I am not in a good mood today. Stop with the personal attacks or a bunch of you can take a time out. FFS. Act like adults.

greenmount · #98 30.01.2019, 21:49

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Not to mention MiniMia...

Don't flatter yourself.

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Just ask EDZOOM!

That's a totally different topic...

	Quote:	3Wishes
	Back and forth, back and forth. No, I am not in a good mood today. Stop with the personal attacks or a bunch of you can take a time out. FFS. Act like adults.

We will. We're just teasing each other.

curley · #99 31.01.2019, 01:00

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Flirting, now? Tom

LOL, when I read it I actually laughed, thinking she made things worse. But as I see, you're an easy .... what ever.

	Quote:	greenmount
	Not in public dear...Curley is already watching us...

Go right ahead, hope you can keep it up for a while.
Same strategy on Today Only would be nice.

greenmount · #**100** 31.01.2019, 07:32

Trying to transform quite a valid and interesting discussion that the OP has been trying to have on the theme clearly stated in the title in a childish cyber war is exactly that: childish. It seems almost everyone is capable to move on.....

Some people who went through unpleasant episodes would probably like to know what to do in certain situations and they didn't come here for validation or for our approval.

To put the discussion right back on track, this is a very good post which is probably answering to other users who raised this issue

	Quote:	ChrisNeedsToKnow
	The police cars are by far not "usual". If you know the details, they might as well write POLICE all over them: On the roof in the back there's a small extra antenna, needed for their radio frequencies. Looks very specific. In most cases these cars have tinted back windows. It's always 2 police officers sitting in one car. See a car with 1 person = not police (or not in patrol mode) Thanks to the Kantönligeist, the numberplate must be from the Kanton in which you are in that very moment. See an AG car in ZH = not police (or not in patrol mode) the alarm lights integrated in the front grill are somewhat visible, even when they're not switched on. In most cases I realise unmarked cars without paying attention. But if a car stops and wants something from you, above criteria will help you determine what the story is. If you're unsure, why not call the emergency number and tell them what's happening, ideally including the numberplate. You should know your rights, at least the rough overview. If a police officer is reasonable, reply reasonably. Imagine they search for someone, and accidentally your clothes match the description. Then I´d try to "help" them as quickly as I can, by diffusing their impression that I could be the one they're looking for. But as soon as they start accusing you of anything, that's it. Don't talk. The only thing you are obliged to actively do is: Give your details (name, address, nationality) and state that you live in Switzerland legally. Nothing more; just say "I won't say anything more than this". Yes, they can arrest you. But you don't have to cooperate in any way, and they don't want to waste their time. If a police officer keeps arresting innocent people, he will eventually lose his job for incompetence. It doesn't happen often. In short: cooperate as long as you feel comfortable. As soon as you do not feel comforatble, say just that: I'm not comfortable talking to you, hence I´m not going to say anything from now. Ignore any threats they make. Police can't do anything, except reporting you to the courts. In the end a court decides about any real measures, the police guy on the spot can't take decisions, except the immediate one if they'll take you to the post with them or not.

Also this, spot on nigelr.

	Quote:	nigelr
	I gig fairly regularly and one of the bands I play with has a rehearsal room in an area known for drug deals. Quite often I'm travelling back from a gig at 2-3-4am, or leaving the rehearal room at 11pm and it is not unusual to be stopped by the police. I never do drugs and if I'm driving I never drink alcohol - not even a panache. The police are just normal people like the rest of us. Some are OK, some really nice and some are complete idiots. Now when I'm stopped I imagine them as complete idiots until they prove otherwise, pretty much like they treat me as a criminal until I can prove otherwise. Most of the people I know here in CH are Swiss born and bred, and generally they don't think highly of the police.