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Why doesn't Google Maps direct me to use this junction to enter the road?

Hi,
From time to time, I drive by the Lidl shop in Lottstetten, Germany. When driving from the Swiss border to there, Google maps guides me reasonably through the nearest exit from the main road: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/47.6...47.6301268!3e0

However, when returning, Google avoids the exact same slip road and guides me through the city: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/B%C3...301268!1m0!3e0

It's no big deal of course, but what's interesting is that "in the scene" I couldn't find any traffic sign implying a ban on entering the road from there. Indeed, every minute or so, cars enter the main road from that same slip road and direction, as I witnessed in multiple occasions. Moreover, I tested some other navigators (Go, Sygic, ..) and they all pointed me to enter the slip road!

I follow Google's advice and always go through the city, but would be very happy to know if Google is indeed making a mistake here, or there is something I haven't noticed or I don't know. Many thanks.

P.S. It's not traffic-related. I have retried the navigation in many different times of the day/days of the week.
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Old 02.02.2019, 18:57
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Re: Why doesn't Google Maps direct me to use this junction to enter the road?

It looks like the first route is 1 minute faster going in to town, so that's shown first and marked in blue as opposed to gray?
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Re: Why doesn't Google Maps direct me to use this junction to enter the road?

For some reason, it seems that Google Maps does not recognize that slip road as a road, so it is as if it did not exist; if you try to drag a point to force the route to pass through it you simply can't release the mouse over it. Weird, since it shows an arrow to indicate the direction, and the satellite view is very clear.
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Re: Why doesn't Google Maps direct me to use this junction to enter the road?

It is since you tell Google to find the fastest route.
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Re: Why doesn't Google Maps direct me to use this junction to enter the road?

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It looks like the first route is 1 minute faster going in to town, so that's shown first and marked in blue as opposed to gray?
I'm not talking about the CH-DE route as per the first map, but the way back.
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Re: Why doesn't Google Maps direct me to use this junction to enter the road?

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It is since you tell Google to find the fastest route.
No. There is no way to pass that sliproad no matter where you put the points. Plus, going through the road (Max 100 km/h in DE) should be faster than the city (50 km/h).
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No. There is no way to pass that sliproad no matter where you put the points. Plus, going through the road (Max 100 km/h in DE) should be faster than the city (50 km/h).
Time is the reason why Google directs you there, going back the road towards the highway is a little shorter and faster than if you would use the exit when arriving. Also when arriving it makes sense to keep on the highway since you already are up to speed.
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Re: Why doesn't Google Maps direct me to use this junction to enter the road?

Why don't you ask Google?
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Time is the reason why Google directs you there, going back the road towards the highway is a little shorter and faster than if you would use the exit when arriving. Also when arriving it makes sense to keep on the highway since you already are up to speed.
What about this path? https://www.google.com/maps/dir/47.6...a=!4m2!4m1!3e0

There is no way you go faster ignoring that slip road and following Google's advice, no?
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I follow Google's advice and always go through the city, but would be very happy to know if Google is indeed making a mistake here, or there is something I haven't noticed or I don't know. Many thanks.
Google doesn't always get it right. That's all.
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Re: Why doesn't Google Maps direct me to use this junction to enter the road?

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Google doesn't always get it right. That's all.
True. We've come across several road names that are simply incorrect on googlemaps over the years.
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Re: Why doesn't Google Maps direct me to use this junction to enter the road?

I am not a fan of Google maps. In the US, the app "Waze" is all of the rage as it offers "real time" traffic conditions (accidents, police, road hazards) and will alert you and offer alternative routes to bypass lousy traffic.

I was surprised to find that Waze works here too (I don't drive but was in car with a friend last week and used it to navigate us to our destination when Goggle was not cooperating). The app is free via iTunes. I highly recommend
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I am not a fan of Google maps. In the US, the app "Waze" is all of the rage as it offers "real time" traffic conditions (accidents, police, road hazards) and will alert you and offer alternative routes to bypass lousy traffic.

I was surprised to find that Waze works here too (I don't drive but was in car with a friend last week and used it to navigate us to our destination when Goggle was not cooperating). The app is free via iTunes. I highly recommend
Using Waze is a bit shady here, as showing police/camera locations is illegal and I'm not sure Waze complies with that (any info/link regarding that is appreciated).
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Using Waze is a bit shady here, as showing police/camera locations is illegal and I'm not sure Waze complies with that (any info/link regarding that is appreciated).
I did not see any alerts for police while we were using it (Waze) but the map and routes were far better in terms of clarity not to mention precision. I don't know whether we would have arrived at our friend's place using Google (as she lives on a tiny, remote street which Google could not identify).

Waze functions by having its users "report" accidents, congestion, police or cameras while they are using the app so who knows whether there are enough users in Switzerland , at this point, to enable this feature. Since it is on one's phone, it would be very easy to shut down/close the screen in any event.
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I'm not talking about the CH-DE route as per the first map, but the way back.
Zoom in a bit - it thinks the slip road is closed

https://photos.app.goo.gl/216guTBg357QE9S48
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Zoom in a bit - it thinks the slip road is closed

https://photos.app.goo.gl/216guTBg357QE9S48
I think that refers to the northeastern branch, the off ramp. The on ramp towards southeast is open.
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Zoom in a bit - it thinks the slip road is closed

https://photos.app.goo.gl/216guTBg357QE9S48
Doesn't show such a sign for me, interesting.
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I think that refers to the northeastern branch, the off ramp. The on ramp towards southeast is open.
I think that is the on ramp to go south back to the border. Or have I misunderstood what you were asking?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/1aP38UT85fzq3BEs5
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I think that is the on ramp to go south back to the border. Or have I misunderstood what you were asking?
Back to Switzerland is the desired direction. And Google won't use it even tough 100 km/h on through road should be faster than the 50 km/h through the town.

Possible explanations:
The road was closed some-when in the past and Google has still the old information.
The road is still closed and you missed a sign.

On Openstreemap it seems to be possible
https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=...ayer=Omniscale
There issue also no issue logged at that exact location.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1....5837&layers=N

TomTom does also not route through the town:
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/en_gb/#mo...5B%5D%7D+ver=3

neither does Here:
https://wego.here.com/directions/mix...0Rafz%20Zurich

It is only an issue with Google:
https://www.google.ch/maps/dir/47.63...a=!4m2!4m1!3e0

see here how you can report an issue. If it is indeed one:
https://support.google.com/maps/answ...DDesktop&hl=en
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