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Using another town's dechette

I just discovered that there is a large dechette around the corner from the my kid's school. It is particularly useful because the closest dechette that has a paper collector is a 10 minute drive in the direction I rarely go.

The catch is the sign says it is for village residents only. Will anyone actually care if I use it? Will I be chase me down with pitchforks? Will I get a fine from a bored police officer?

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I just discovered that there is a large dechette around the corner from the my kid's school. It is particularly useful because the closest dechette that has a paper collector is a 10 minute drive in the direction I rarely go.

The catch is the sign says it is for village residents only. Will anyone actually care if I use it? Will I be chase me down with pitchforks? Will I get a fine from a bored police officer?

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Yes, the sign is clear, which bit you got the problem with ?



It is paid for and subsidised with taxes from the commune where the decheterie is located, you don't pay so why should you use it ?
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I just discovered that there is a large dechette around the corner from the my kid's school. It is particularly useful because the closest dechette that has a paper collector is a 10 minute drive in the direction I rarely go.

The catch is the sign says it is for village residents only. Will anyone actually care if I use it? Will I be chase me down with pitchforks? Will I get a fine from a bored police officer?

Thanks!
I used the large, open all week, déchetterie in a neighbouring commune a couple of times soon after moved here but was then asked where I was living and told that I must not go there again.

I hadn't realised that it was disallowed, or in fact that it was a different commune, and was using an easily-recognisable vehicle, so I might have been able to get away with it for longer if I'd wanted to, but it's also possible that they'd referenced my number plates, or that they would later do so if I claimed an incorrect address, so if course I wasn't tempted to go down that route.

It's a bit annoying, as our communal déchetterie is only open three (four in the summer) half days a week and is already ten minutes' drive away, so I can see why many people would tend to use the other one in what most folk would regard as our main town.
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I just discovered that there is a large dechette around the corner from the my kid's school. It is particularly useful because the closest dechette that has a paper collector is a 10 minute drive in the direction I rarely go.

The catch is the sign says it is for village residents only. Will anyone actually care if I use it? Will I be chase me down with pitchforks? Will I get a fine from a bored police officer?

Thanks!
Yes, they do care, which is bonkers because you also pay and have one in your own commune. I've never got this about Switzerland, so long as the waste is being recycled then who cares where you deposit it?

Fortunately you're unlikely to get caught, unless someone shops you. Which, being Switzerland, could well happen.
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Will I get a fine from a bored police officer?
I know someone who got a CHF 250 fine for doing so.

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Yes, they do care, which is bonkers because you also pay and have one in your own commune. I've never got this about Switzerland, so long as the waste is being recycled then who cares where you deposit it?

Fortunately you're unlikely to get caught, unless someone shops you. Which, being Switzerland, could well happen.

Yes s/he also pays, but to her Commune, not the other one - a bit like schools for kids ...

Here our Molock bins can only be opened with a credit card type card- and everything recorded and weighed. For the Dechetterie, we also need to use our card, registered in our name at the Commune, to access site.
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I just discovered that there is a large dechette around the corner from the my kid's school. It is particularly useful because the closest dechette that has a paper collector is a 10 minute drive in the direction I rarely go.

The catch is the sign says it is for village residents only. Will anyone actually care if I use it? Will I be chase me down with pitchforks? Will I get a fine from a bored police officer?

Thanks!
Are you sure that you are not allowed to use it? Is the school so far away from your residence?

My local dechet is shared with 5 villages, there's another about 1km away that's shared with a different bunch of villages. They both open on different days.

The "guards" at our place are quite logical, they are not gonna demand to see your card if you come with a bag of paper.. But if you come in van with a plate from another canton they won't let you in.
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I just discovered that there is a large dechette around the corner from the my kid's school. It is particularly useful because the closest dechette that has a paper collector is a 10 minute drive in the direction I rarely go.

The catch is the sign says it is for village residents only. Will anyone actually care if I use it? Will I be chase me down with pitchforks? Will I get a fine from a bored police officer?

Thanks!
Yes, it's financed of the community taxes, so if you pay your taxes in the next town you're not entitled to use it.
I got the same situation, I didn't realize for months .... years? LOL.
The guy was very nice, when he told me about it. No fine. But I do admit I stuck to the advice/information once I had it. It's actually logic, once it's pointed out.
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Re: Using another town's dechette

Thanks! Recycling and composting is my biggest annoyance. I did not think about asking the reggie if these services were provided at the building. I guess I'm stuck making a weekly run the M-Park in Carouge. BTW, it is wierd that I can use it in Carouge, but not the next town over. When is it cantonal and when is it communal!
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Yes, they do care, which is bonkers because you also pay and have one in your own commune. I've never got this about Switzerland, so long as the waste is being recycled then who cares where you deposit it?
The are borders for a reason! What do you want some all equal communist society? What a bloody commie liberal are you? Damn, how I did I deserve this? I will forever remember this particular point in time, where Loz showed his true liberal communist face .

Commune A and Commune B have need a recycling center.
Both build one and staff them. Paid by the respective communes taxpayer.
Now for some reason the center of commune B is more attractive and people from commune A are using it as well. Because of the higher demand it needs more staffing, cleaning, infrastructure which cost money paid by the taxpayer of commune B. Whereas the opening hours, staffing, and maintenance of the center in commune A can be reduced thus saving money for the taxpayer off commune A.

People get upset and angry about lesser things than some freeloaders from across the border.
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I've never got this about Switzerland, so long as the waste is being recycled then who cares where you deposit it?
Recycling is not viewed here as virtuous, rather a way to save money (on your household rubbish collection).
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Re: Using another town's dechette

Not the case here for the OP, but exceptions are made if you are genuinely staying in the town/village, for example if you are on holiday there. You don't have to be resident in this case. Non-resident foreigners who have merely tourist status are also exempt from the rule.

A family from canton Zurich staying in a holiday flat in Ticino can use the local recycling/refuse point.
It would be utterly absurd for them to have to literally save up three weeks worth of stinking rubbish in the summer heat to take it back to their own town. There is also the public hygiene aspect of the matter to consider.
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Not the case here for the OP, but exceptions are made if you are genuinely staying in the town/village, for example if you are on holiday there. You don't have to be resident in this case. Non-resident foreigners who have merely tourist status are also exempt from the rule.

A family from canton Zurich staying in a holiday flat in Ticino can use the local recycling/refuse point.
It would be utterly absurd for them to have to literally save up three weeks worth of stinking rubbish in the summer heat to take it back to their own town. There is also the public hygiene aspect of the matter to consider.
Seriously, if people think they have to take a week's worth of stinking rubbish home to their own gemeinde after a holiday, you have to wonder who ties their shoes up for them...
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if people think they have to take a week's worth of stinking rubbish home to their own gemeinde after a holiday, you have to wonder who ties their shoes up for them
And yet there have been cases of people being stopped and questioned as to why they are using the facilities when they are apparently not from around there.

I know someone who received a fine for dropping off PET bottles and similar at a recycling point whilst driving a car with plates from a different canton. She was traced through the number plate of the hire car. She contested the fine and it was annulled. So the local authorities in this case only created themselves extra work and caused much hassle and irritation to a citizen who was doing nothing wrong since she was actually only recycling.
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Not the case here for the OP, but exceptions are made if you are genuinely staying in the town/village, for example if you are on holiday there. You don't have to be resident in this case. Non-resident foreigners who have merely tourist status are also exempt from the rule.

A family from canton Zurich staying in a holiday flat in Ticino can use the local recycling/refuse point.
It would be utterly absurd for them to have to literally save up three weeks worth of stinking rubbish in the summer heat to take it back to their own town. There is also the public hygiene aspect of the matter to consider.



You ever paid "Tourist tax" and wondered what it was for actually ?
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You ever paid "Tourist tax" and wondered what it was for actually ?
Heard of it sure. Does it apply/is it collected from people staying in private holiday homes?
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And yet there have been cases of people being stopped and questioned as to why they are using the facilities when they are apparently not from around there.

I know someone who received a fine for dropping off PET bottles and similar at a recycling point whilst driving a car with plates from a different canton. She was traced through the number plate of the hire car. She contested the fine and it was annulled. So the local authorities in this case only created themselves extra work and caused much hassle and irritation to a citizen who was doing nothing wrong since she was actually only recycling.
I guess it depends where you go. If you are on holiday somewhere where there are loads of holiday rentals, nobody bats an eye. If you are in some housing estate offloading your recycling, maybe it will attract attention.

Where we go to for our holiday rental, there are licence plates from everywhere and everyone is using the facilities. You get given a couple of official rubbish bags to use for the duration and there's a village map on the wall of the flat showing the guests where to chuck your glass and tins.

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Heard of it sure. Does it apply/is it collected from people staying in private holiday homes?
Yes. If you are renting it for a week or two or whatever, you pay tourist tax. If you own it as a holiday flat then you pay other local taxes accordingly.
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A family from canton Zurich staying in a holiday flat in Ticino can use the local recycling/refuse point.
They still have to buy the bags, though.

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They still have to buy the bags, though.
Only if it's an area with special bags. If they are just recycling they don't need to buy anything.
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They still have to buy the bags, though.

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The idea of recycling things is not using bags
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