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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

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Old 10.03.2019, 15:26
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Why are you making this personal? Olygirl didn't say she approved of the costumes - quite the opposite, in fact. She merely said that she isn't sure that banning is the solution.

How does that make EF a "ed up place"?

You forgot the silly groans !!!
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Tom - whatís the groan for?
The claim that it looks completely different.

It doesn't.

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Old 10.03.2019, 15:36
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Anyone who thinks that this is OK really need their head looking at- seriously

why not nazi armies just for more fun and a good book burning - and all under the pretence of Mardi Gras

This is being shown all over the world- what an image for Switzerland shame.
Just like the one in Chile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qMb_8KXicM
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

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The claim that it looks completely different.

It doesn't.

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The dots and rotation hardly make it look completely different.

View it on a BW monitor rotated 45 degrees and it's the same.
Yes I suppose you are right...

Easy for a bumper sticker to be mistaken after all we are all colour blind, dot blind and have permanently angled neck... or we are all using BW screens which erases dots and rotates images 45 degrees...

After all 6 and 9 are the same, just 180 degrees rotated...so is the following:



Thanks for enlightening me...
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Old 10.03.2019, 15:41
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

Context, context, context (I'm beginning to feel like I'm banging my head against a wall here):

Wearing a KKK costume in Switzerland at fasnacht does not mean that one is a racist. In this case from 2019, it turns out, it did. But that picture from 1927 proves nothing other than the fact that people have been wearing silly costumes at fasnacht for a very long time.

Wearing a Spanish fiesta costume with a white pointy hat in Birmingham, Alabama is asking for trouble. Don't do it, even if you're Spanish.

Putting a swastika on the back of your car in Mumbai is fine. Putting a swastika on the back of your car in Punxsutawney is foolish.

Shouting Allahu Akhbar at a religious festival in Lahore is fine. Shouting Allahu Akhbar in the check in line of JFK airport is foolish.

Dressing like a Nazi at a WWII themed party in Berkshire is fine. Dressing like a Nazi at a Pegida march in Dresden is foolish.

Is this really so hard for people to get their heads around?
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Old 10.03.2019, 15:55
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

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Yes I suppose you are right...

Easy for a bumper sticker to be mistaken after all we are all colour blind, dot blind and have permanently angled neck... or we are all using BW screens which erases dots and rotates images 45 degrees...

After all 6 and 9 are the same, just 180 degrees rotated...so is the following:



Thanks for enlightening me...
I fully agree with you. Isn't it fantastic that people decorate buildings with friendly swastikas and make the world a better place, like here: http://www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk/n...que-at-voiron/

All those silly people that see it wrong.
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

DB - I agree with you about context and being sensible but where do you draw a line?

With respect to Swastika, as far as I am aware even in Germany there is a very clear distinction. Hakenkreuz as well as variations of it are banned however the Hindu Swastika is exempted from the ban. Perhaps they dont use the same BW, 45 degree tilted and dot filtering screen that Tom is using.
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Old 10.03.2019, 16:06
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DB - I agree with you about context and being sensible but where do you draw a line?

With respect to Swastika, as far as I am aware even in Germany there is a very clear distinction. Hakenkreuz as well as variations of it are banned however the Hindu Swastika is exempted from the ban. Perhaps they dont use the same BW, 45 degree tilted and dot filtering screen that Tom is using.
I wouldn't ban either, but I'd advise Hindu friends to exercise caution when using it outside of a clear context.

I come from near the Black Country in England, which has a very strong local cultural identity and recently got its own flag, designed by a little girl as part of a competition. If I lived in England, I'd definitely buy one and hang it in one of the rooms in my house. But I don't live in England - I live in a country where nobody has heard of the Black Country, where the motif might be misinterpreted, and where the colours of the flag without a doubt would be misinterpreted. It simply isn't worth the bother, even though the flag has absolutely nothing to do with fascism or national socialism.



Context, context, context.
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Old 10.03.2019, 16:07
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Re: Klu Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

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Specifically on EF or in life in general?
I guess I have been very lucky in my life - as I have never experienced such things, both on and away from view- than on EF, thanks- and life is truly too short.
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Old 10.03.2019, 16:08
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

I know of a family whose coat of arms includes a "Swastika" cross. Their coat of arms dates back to the 1600s and can still be seen in Schloss Sargans today.

Someone wrote on another thread (ISIS?) something about the intention behind the symbol/action. I thought it was quite insightful reply but I can't find the post anymore. Does anyone know where it might be?
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Old 10.03.2019, 18:05
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Context, context, context (I'm beginning to feel like I'm banging my head against a wall here):

Wearing a KKK costume in Switzerland at fasnacht does not mean that one is a racist. In this case from 2019, it turns out, it did. But that picture from 1927 proves nothing other than the fact that people have been wearing silly costumes at fasnacht for a very long time.

Wearing a Spanish fiesta costume with a white pointy hat in Birmingham, Alabama is asking for trouble. Don't do it, even if you're Spanish.

Putting a swastika on the back of your car in Mumbai is fine. Putting a swastika on the back of your car in Punxsutawney is foolish.

Shouting Allahu Akhbar at a religious festival in Lahore is fine. Shouting Allahu Akhbar in the check in line of JFK airport is foolish.

Dressing like a Nazi at a WWII themed party in Berkshire is fine. Dressing like a Nazi at a Pegida march in Dresden is foolish.

Is this really so hard for people to get their heads around?


Go back and read the first post in this thread where I wrote:

Not really sure that a KKK march is in the spirit of Fasnacht, especially as those taking part appeared to have neo-Nazi links.

Isn't this agreeing with what you've just written?



So who is it exactly can't get their head around this?
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I guess I have been very lucky in my life - as I have never experienced such things, both on and away from view- than on EF, thanks- and life is truly too short.
Guess, you have never lived in Belgium...
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So who is it exactly can't get their head around this?
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Or the fact that innocent Sikhs were attacked because they were turbans?
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

I don't see the relevance of your posted image on this thread.
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Old 10.03.2019, 19:17
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Putting a swastika on the back of your car in Mumbai is fine. Putting a swastika on the back of your car in Punxsutawney is foolish.
I had to google that one.

You are very naughty.
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I guess I have been very lucky in my life - as I have never experienced such things, both on and away from view- than on EF, thanks- and life is truly too short.
Neither have I, not anywhere.

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Guess, you have never lived in Belgium...
No idea what that’s supposed to mean.
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Old 10.03.2019, 22:27
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I had to google that one.

You are very naughty.
Itís a smorgasbord of funny, though.
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

I havenít read my daily dose of Cumhuriyet Gasetesi Haberleri this evening
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