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Old 08.03.2019, 08:35
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I thought you were all about freedom of speech?

Seriously, let the debate be what it is. I, for one, have dropped out (mentally) of these discussions long ago. I merely pointed out the way I deal with what I see being written a bit too nonchalantly here. Peace. Do what you preach. I certainly do.
Some people just like to stand outside the garden and throw stones.

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You haven't dropped out. You just popped in to personally name somebody.

You merely pointed out that you needed to virtue signal a bit on an account of a particular member. (Your racist card was wrong, btw, as DB said and olygirl argued her point later).

I thought you were all about tolerance.
Read what Yuropflyer has written on the topic, very spot on..
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Most Expats are "White" (ie, not what those Nazis are against.. )
Those costumes are illegal in many places, Sherlock.

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Why would anyone think that I think that?

Did you just use the r- word?
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Disguising yourself as Nazi/Fascist/Racist, War Criminal, etc. obviously is all a very stupid idea.
Of course dressing up like the KKK is not exactly an example of good taste but where to draw the line in such cases?
If the people would have dressed up like Mao, Stalin or the Spanish Inquisition, you would never have heard of it in a news paper.
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Read what Yuropflyer has written on the topic, very spot on..
You didn't drop out of the debate?

Any other "reading suggestions"?
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Of course dressing up like the KKK is not exactly an example of good taste but where to draw the line in such cases?
If the people would have dressed up like Mao, Stalin or the Spanish Inquisition, you would never have heard of it in a news paper.
There are groups of blokes in England who like to dress up as Cromwell's Roundheads. Funny how nobody seems to mind that, despite the attempted genocide of the Irish people.
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Re: Klu Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

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There are groups of blokes in England who like to dress up as Cromwell's Roundheads. Funny how nobody seems to mind that, despite the attempted genocide of the Irish people.
I get really offended when people dress up as Leprechaunís as there are none left.I mean didnít the British starve them out of existence.
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Old 08.03.2019, 10:04
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Of course dressing up like the KKK is not exactly an example of good taste but where to draw the line in such cases?
If the people would have dressed up like Mao, Stalin or the Spanish Inquisition, you would never have heard of it in a news paper.
Where do you draw the line? How about right before or at the symbols and words that incite to violence against other races or groups of people. But of course, I am fully aware this could be only my opinion, please feel free to disregard it. Btw, KKK still exists in the USA (same as nazis in Europe).
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Old 08.03.2019, 10:15
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Where do you draw the line? How about right before the symbols and words that incite to violence against other races or groups of people. But of course, I am fully aware this could be only my opinion, please feel free to disregard it. Btw, KKK still exists in the USA.
I think the reaction to this kind of "inappropriateness" is different in Europe (I exclude the UK here) to elsewhere.

As was pointed out in the article, the police are involved, there's a bit of background on racism and the KKK as well as some quotes from locals saying it's not on.

I find that an appropriate reaction. Anymore and it's giving too much airtime to arseholes who thrive on the oxygen of publicity.

Elsewhere, there would have been outrage, demonstrations, endless post-mortems on the news channels, the public ousting of whoever organised these carnivals, along with the dissection of all his or her personal details up to the value of their house and inside leg measurement.

And everyone would be thinking "Well, wow! That KKK still holds some clout, don't they!?"

Let the local plod quietly do their job and treat them as the idiots they are.
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Old 08.03.2019, 10:26
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

CH is a place of few explicit rules? It's all rules and regs isn't it? Certainly implicit ones, that tend to be discovered after the fact...

Those tools in those hateful uniforms - they don't deserve a benign word like costume - have nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with intolerance. Theirs, mostly.

I'm not sure how a thread about a rather shocking (I use the word because I feel it is shocking, ymmv) incident has suddenly become a forum spanking.
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

Remember that the KKK is an American invention and Switzerland never had to deal with them directly. SS uniforms, on the other hand, are a symbol that provokes memories of the evilness of the Nazi regime, which affected Switzerland greatly.

Sangrounderís right. Those are a group of racist idiots who abused Fasnacht by using costumes to establish their racial beliefs. The locals are shocked and action is being taken.

I hope this doesnít blow up into an international outrage because that would just add more fuel to the fire.
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Really? Would you say the same if they were wearing the SS uniform?
Depends where they were wearing such uniform. I was shocked to see pictures of national heroes wearing SS uniforms in Finnish WWII museum. They were Finns serving in German SS during the war with USSR.
I was shocked until I learned that not only civilians were never persecuted by SS in Finland but Jews served in the regiments of Finish army side by side with German Wehrmacht and SS troops during WWII.
God bless Gen. Mannerheim brilliance for rejecting Hitler's ethnic cleansing demands and protecting Finnish citizens from the scourge of Fascism and Communism while preserving Finnish independence.

Apparently SS uniform meant a different thing in that context.
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Depends where they were wearing such uniform. I was shocked to see pictures of national heroes wearing SS uniforms in Finnish WWII museum. They were Finns serving in German SS during the war with USSR.
I was shocked until I learned that not only civilians were never persecuted by SS in Finland but Jews served in the regiments of Finish army side by side with German Wehrmacht and SS troops during WWII.
God bless Gen. Mannerheim brilliance for rejecting Hitler's ethnic cleansing demands and protecting Finnish citizens from the scourge of Fascism and Communism while preserving Finnish independence.

Apparently SS uniform meant a different thing in that context.
As the baby is on a fag break and I've got time, I'll bite. Please explain the different thing that context means.
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I never said they were kids. Please stop making stuff up.
You asked whether they are which suggests you thought they were.
(but then again you can play dumb):

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I can't be bothered to plough through the article. So what's the gist of it: are they actual klansmen or just Swiss kids dressed in KKK costumes?

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Read what Yuropflyer has written on the topic, very spot on..
I try and ignore what she writes.

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Those are a group of racist idiots who abused Fasnacht by using costumes to establish their racial beliefs. The locals are shocked and action is being taken.
Nice to see you've admitted you were wrong.
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You asked whether they are which suggests you thought they were.
(but then again you can play dumb):
I love it when outrage pixies put words in my mouth. It makes them look so much more rational and intelligent.
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I love it when outrage pixies put words in my mouth. It makes them look so much more rational and intelligent.
The latter.
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

Ok boys, I've warmed up the tape measure, let's go. Go on, make my international woman's day...
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As the baby is on a fag break and I've got time, I'll bite. Please explain the different thing that context means.
I guess it would be the difference between a British uniform in Normandy and a British uniform in Bengal.
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Remember that the KKK is an American invention and Switzerland never had to deal with them directly. SS uniforms, on the other hand, are a symbol that provokes memories of the evilness of the Nazi regime, which affected Switzerland greatly.
Greatly? Really? It affected Poland greatly. It affected Russia greatly.

Switzerland - not so much (and that's being generous).
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I guess it would be the difference between a British uniform in Normandy and a British uniform in Bengal.
Or a Confederate Battle Flag in Mississippi, and one in Switzerland.

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