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Old 09.03.2019, 22:09
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

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And who are they? I haven't seen anyone talking or thinking like a Nazi on this thread. Have you?
No, not on this thread.
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Old 09.03.2019, 22:13
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Oh my, didn't think I'd have to explain - the rise of fascism in so many guises in Europe- and people kept quiet ...
Umm, Islamism, Catholism, Fascism, Naziism, Socialism, and Communism are all 'isms, and all are bad, but also hardly fall under the same guise.

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Old 09.03.2019, 22:20
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

Apparently the restaurant where the group met is also used by the SVP for their meetings and is where the anti-immigration initiative slogan was created back in 2013.

Here
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Old 09.03.2019, 22:22
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Umm, Islamism, Catholism, Fascism, Naziism, Socialism, and Communism are all 'isms, and all are bad, but also hardly fall under the same guise.

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But they have in common that all of them have led to catastrophical outcomes.
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

I never understood why Catholics, religion that claims to be mad about cats does not worship any?
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Old 09.03.2019, 22:26
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I never understood why Catholics, religion that claims to be mad about cats does not worship any?
Be careful what you say about Catholics here.

Blasphemy laws still exist in Switzerland.
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Old 09.03.2019, 22:27
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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

Not forgetting my grandparents in the gas chambers.

But, also my last (Swiss) partner who's father hid under a pile of bodies in ex-yugoslavia as a boy.

Well, that was the the theme of the thread...
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Old 09.03.2019, 23:46
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Hitler did not come to power since everybody agreed with all he said, Hitler came to power due to a propaganda machine which was unknown till that time,
Rubbish. That machine was fake news. It was destroyed in a big fire.



And what did Hitler do without this machine?

Hitler had no choice but to come to power because of Swiss people dressing up as the KKK.

And it's going to happen again. Totally unstoppable. Nothing we can do.
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Old 09.03.2019, 23:51
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So now we know: when people dress as the KKK in Schwyz, we end up with Nazis in Germany.

The history speaks for itself. We have been warned!
Not to mention Spain.

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Old 10.03.2019, 09:49
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Art 261:

"any person who publicly disseminates ideologies that have as their object the systematic denigration or defamation of the members of a race, ethnic group or religion,"

https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a261

Surely this law will be brought forward if this group will be prosecuted.
I think EF members too should be aware that such laws do exist in Switzerland. More often than not people feel very too comfortable to express some views they wouldn't really dare to express if they knew there can be consequences in real life too apart from a few groans and red blobs on an online platform. We can ignore each other here, until someone with a bit more free time on their hands and an amount of money they're willing to sacrifice will put an end to this fun, "free" of consequences place of ours. We're not in America in some regards i.e. law suits and such, true, but Europe is catching up. Just saying. Freedom of speech is a right till some try to deny other people's rights to dignity and...life, ultimately.
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Old 10.03.2019, 10:11
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I think EF members too should be aware that such laws do exist in Switzerland. More often than not people feel very too comfortable to express some views they wouldn't really dare to express if they knew there can be consequences in real life too apart from a few groans and red blobs on an online platform. We can ignore each other here, until someone with a bit more free time on their hands and an amount of money they're willing to sacrifice will put an end to this fun, "free" of consequences place of ours. We're not in America in some regards i.e. law suits and such, true, but Europe is catching up. Just saying. Freedom of speech is a right till some try to deny other people's rights to dignity and...life, ultimately.
EF is small beans. Compared to most of the internet, this place is like a kindergarten.
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Old 10.03.2019, 10:17
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EF is small beans. Compared to most of the internet, this place is like a kindergarten.
True.
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I think EF members too should be aware that such laws do exist in Switzerland. More often than not people feel very too comfortable to express some views they wouldn't really dare to express if they knew there can be consequences in real life too apart from a few groans and red blobs on an online platform. We can ignore each other here, until someone with a bit more free time on their hands and an amount of money they're willing to sacrifice will put an end to this fun, "free" of consequences place of ours. We're not in America in some regards i.e. law suits and such, true, but Europe is catching up. Just saying. Freedom of speech is a right till some try to deny other people's rights to dignity and...life, ultimately.
BTW, the litigation that you have suggested may bring this forum to its end is only possible in EU. It would not be accepted by any court in US unless there is provable criminal intent, calls for violence, harassment or child pronography and some other extreme categories.
Free speech is very well protected in US that's why KKK and Neo-Nazi are still around there and have their own forums and journals.
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BTW, the litigation that you have suggested may bring this forum to its end is only possible in EU. It would not be accepted by any court in US unless there is provable criminal intent, calls for violence, harassment or child pronography and some other extreme categories.
Free speech is very well protected in US that's why KKK and Neo-Nazi are still around there and have their own forums and journals.
Tell us more....
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True.

What you see on EF is just the tip of the iceberg- the really nasty stuff happens behind the scenes.
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Nobody cared because people are often ignorant and need to be explained the simplest concepts.

That is why I had to explain to my Indian co-worker in US that having a swastika sticker on your car will lead to property damage or worse.
Because folk didn't realise the swastika was originally a Hindu/ Jainism symbol, or because your co-worker didn't realise they didn't realise etc etc.?
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What you see on EF is just the tip of the iceberg- the really nasty stuff happens behind the scenes.
Specifically on EF or in life in general?
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That is why I had to explain to my Indian co-worker in US that having a swastika sticker on your car will lead to property damage or worse.
You do realise that the Hindu Swastika is thousands of years old first found in the ancient Vedas and looks completely different?



But the again some humans do have a tendency of being ignorant...for example, Sikhs in US were attacked post 9/11 because of their turbans some idiots thought that they were terrorists...
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Old 10.03.2019, 14:45
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You do realise that the Hindu Swastika is thousands of years old first found in the ancient Vedas and looks completely different?
The dots and rotation hardly make it look completely different.

View it on a BW monitor rotated 45 degrees and it's the same.

Hell, even used in Canada:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernie..._team_1922.jpg


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Re: Ku Klux Klan in Kanton Schwyz

Tom - what’s the groan for?

Do you disagree that the original Hindu swastika - a symbol of peace - has been around since ancient times? Or that the Nazi symbol was based on the use by Aryans and was misused? Or perhaps you think that because of the misuse Hindus should stop using it?

Or do you perhaps disagree that some humans are ignorant? Or the fact that innocent Sikhs were attacked because they were turbans?

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