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L permit and "traineeship" is the new salary dumping scheme. Happens in construction work, too.


TBH it felt like a sneaky way to get cheap labour. Hire a new bunch every 6 months for the price of 3 or 4 regulars and dump them after the 6 months and get another set of new ones.


Those that have partners etc here could survive (that's probable what the company are counting on) but those that dont would find it hard I think.
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I might be wrong, but I remember hearing that if you take help, such as reduced health insurance premiums, that in future this can cause you problems when it comes to permit renewal. They offer you the reduction, but then won't renew your permit because you are now considered unable to support yourself. So be careful!



that's very interesting! thanks for pointing this out.
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thanks Mgosia.
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Re: 24k/year

Actually, the workers aren't really dumped, because it takes time and money to find responsible people once you find a decent crew. What happens is the (Swiss/other nationality) boss and friends have a string of companies and they fire and hire these workers from one company to another. The permit stays L, and same "traineeship" or "probation period" spiel.
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Hello.
My partner is European and is arriving in Zh in a few days on probably an L permit.
She will be starting a temporary position in Zh that may be turned into a permanent position after 6 months (which is why I think it will be an L permit) . The job has been classified by the employer as a traineeship. She will be joining along with 30 others. The company does these group interview days and hires large numbers. Her salary will be 24k PA so over the 6 months she will make 12K before tax.


Are there any tax reductions/help for people who earn so little?
Frankly, as she was "brought over here" as one of 30, I'd expect the "bringer" to provide this information. The income is not legal according to Swiss standards.

So, what kind of position is this? And I will keep asking you until you provide an adequate answer.
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NOT true if you move into ZH from abroad (only applies if from different Kanton where you would have to apply instead).

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/content...t_IPV_2019.pdf

‘For persons who move to Zurich in 2019 from abroad, the determining factor is the current gross income
29,000/year income is max for single person to be eligible for the reduction
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29,000/year income is max for single person to be eligible for the reduction
Up to 29900 taxable. From current gross 24K they will simulate the taxable amount based on average deductions.
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Actually, the workers aren't really dumped, because it takes time and money to find responsible people once you find a decent crew. What happens is the (Swiss/other nationality) boss and friends have a string of companies and they fire and hire these workers from one company to another. The permit stays L, and same "traineeship" or "probation period" spiel.
And we know everything about these schemes but not the Swiss authorities? How many traineeships and L permits can one have in CH?
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Re: 24k/year

This smells very much like „Lohndumping“

OP, any chance you could let us know which company this is about?

i am inclined to inform a certain organisation about it..
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