Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Daily life  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 13.03.2019, 12:00
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 7,774
Groaned at 265 Times in 227 Posts
Thanked 9,314 Times in 4,908 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Good news for all who wonder if the would pass Zürich's Gymi entry test, past tests are now available online.

Perhaps give it a try yourself.

zentraleaufnahmepruefung.ch

Last edited by Urs Max; 13.03.2019 at 13:10. Reason: Link corrected
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #2  
Old 13.03.2019, 12:08
aSwissInTheUS's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zurich area
Posts: 10,995
Groaned at 85 Times in 76 Posts
Thanked 16,614 Times in 7,405 Posts
aSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Here the correct link:
https://www.zentraleaufnahmepruefung...uefungsarchiv/


But "now"? Has been available online since the dawn of time.
Interesting would be the 2019 tests.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank aSwissInTheUS for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 13.03.2019, 12:14
JagWaugh's Avatar
RIP
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eglisau
Posts: 7,481
Groaned at 47 Times in 46 Posts
Thanked 14,131 Times in 5,506 Posts
JagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Ok, so Urs shouldn't go for the Informatikmittelschule then...
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank JagWaugh for this useful post:
  #4  
Old 13.03.2019, 12:22
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Isn't that why we're all here? The Swiss set the standards so high that Remo and Tina end up as a Plasterer or a Florist, and then johnny foreigner - who did worse than Remo and Tina at school - can come to Switzerland with their Micky Mouse degree and become a Banker or IT consultant?
Reply With Quote
The following 13 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #5  
Old 13.03.2019, 12:29
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 14,058
Groaned at 131 Times in 122 Posts
Thanked 26,898 Times in 10,296 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Quote:
View Post
Isn't that why we're all here? The Swiss set the standards so high that Remo and Tina end up as a Plasterer or a Florist, and then johnny foreigner - who did worse than Remo and Tina at school - can come to Switzerland with their Micky Mouse degree and become a Banker or IT consultant?
I take it you recently got passed over for promotion by some spotty noob from Surrey?

Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank Sandgrounder for this useful post:
  #6  
Old 13.03.2019, 12:34
RufusB's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: In my head. And UK. Ex-Basel.
Posts: 3,951
Groaned at 69 Times in 62 Posts
Thanked 7,033 Times in 2,831 Posts
RufusB has a reputation beyond reputeRufusB has a reputation beyond reputeRufusB has a reputation beyond reputeRufusB has a reputation beyond reputeRufusB has a reputation beyond reputeRufusB has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Remo and Tina, Florists sounds like a Swiss sit com.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank RufusB for this useful post:
  #7  
Old 13.03.2019, 13:14
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 7,774
Groaned at 265 Times in 227 Posts
Thanked 9,314 Times in 4,908 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Corrected.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 13.03.2019, 13:20
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 13,461
Groaned at 202 Times in 158 Posts
Thanked 15,729 Times in 8,029 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Quote:
View Post
Here the correct link:
https://www.zentraleaufnahmepruefung...uefungsarchiv/


But "now"? Has been available online since the dawn of time.
Interesting would be the 2019 tests.
You cannot imagine how many Tinas' and Remos' parents believe that it is only up to the school to help kids make it to the gymnase. Loads don't know that there is online material available to help children with preparation. Where we are, foreign languages are usually not the problem, but Fr, Math and Hist.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank MusicChick for this useful post:
  #9  
Old 13.03.2019, 17:20
Belgianmum's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchâtel
Posts: 10,796
Groaned at 147 Times in 133 Posts
Thanked 15,971 Times in 6,922 Posts
Belgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Quote:
View Post
You cannot imagine how many Tinas' and Remos' parents believe that it is only up to the school to help kids make it to the gymnase. Loads don't know that there is online material available to help children with preparation. Where we are, foreign languages are usually not the problem, but Fr, Math and Hist.
I hope they don’t have the correct use of apostrophes in English in the test.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank Belgianmum for this useful post:
  #10  
Old 13.03.2019, 17:25
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kt Zrh
Posts: 5,940
Groaned at 35 Times in 34 Posts
Thanked 9,508 Times in 3,996 Posts
edot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

I’d pass the math. Not a chance with the German though.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 13.03.2019, 18:00
Belgianmum's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchâtel
Posts: 10,796
Groaned at 147 Times in 133 Posts
Thanked 15,971 Times in 6,922 Posts
Belgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Quote:
View Post
I’d pass the math. Not a chance with the German though.
Me too. My german isn’t up to that standard.

I’d like to think I’d pass in French but we don’t have the test here anyway and I think my German would probably be good enough for the level they’d require here.

Quote:
View Post
Oop's.
Oops indeed.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Belgianmum for this useful post:
  #12  
Old 13.03.2019, 17:26
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 13,461
Groaned at 202 Times in 158 Posts
Thanked 15,729 Times in 8,029 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Quote:
View Post
I hope they don’t have the correct use of apostrophes in English in the test.
Oop's.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank MusicChick for this useful post:
  #13  
Old 13.03.2019, 18:15
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 7,774
Groaned at 265 Times in 227 Posts
Thanked 9,314 Times in 4,908 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Quote:
View Post
I hope they don’t have the correct use of apostrophes in English in the test.
What's wrong with MC's post? Possessive plural hence Tinas'. No?
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #14  
Old 13.03.2019, 18:21
JagWaugh's Avatar
RIP
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eglisau
Posts: 7,481
Groaned at 47 Times in 46 Posts
Thanked 14,131 Times in 5,506 Posts
JagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

My daughter did the Matura last year. I was surprised at how much of the math, physics, chemistry, and most surprisingly - history I would still remember.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 13.03.2019, 18:24
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 13,461
Groaned at 202 Times in 158 Posts
Thanked 15,729 Times in 8,029 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Quote:
View Post
What's wrong with MC's post? Possessive plural hence Tinas'. No?
That's what I thought, too.

Where are the grammar nazzies when you need them..
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank MusicChick for this useful post:
  #16  
Old 13.03.2019, 18:43
Belgianmum's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchâtel
Posts: 10,796
Groaned at 147 Times in 133 Posts
Thanked 15,971 Times in 6,922 Posts
Belgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Quote:
View Post
What's wrong with MC's post? Possessive plural hence Tinas'. No?
The whole sentence construction is wrong.

If you want to make the names plural to indicate more than one Tina or Remo you have to construct the sentence differently. You can’t use the plural names in the possessive form.

In this case

You cannot imagine how many parents of Tinas or Remos believe that it up to the school alone to help kids make it to gymnase.

Last edited by Belgianmum; 13.03.2019 at 19:11.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Belgianmum for this useful post:
  #17  
Old 13.03.2019, 18:35
araqyl's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Zurich, West-side
Posts: 1,723
Groaned at 6 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 837 Times in 471 Posts
araqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

The Gymi tests in Zurich test above the level taught for the 'regular' 6th grade - so without extra practice or training of some sort, it's almost impossible to get in.

I have a friend whose daughter was preparing for the Gymi test a while back, and he took it to a uni in northern Germany to share with some of the students he knew there - none of them could pass the test, and they were German natives ...
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank araqyl for this useful post:
  #18  
Old 13.03.2019, 18:40
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 8,472
Groaned at 271 Times in 220 Posts
Thanked 11,227 Times in 5,953 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Had similar exams when I was 14 back home, I think I deserve to consider that I've done my part....of course I wouldn't feel comfortable taking the language(s) exam(s) here (maybe French, but my grammar is so rusty). Maths I'm ok with.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 13.03.2019, 18:41
aSwissInTheUS's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zurich area
Posts: 10,995
Groaned at 85 Times in 76 Posts
Thanked 16,614 Times in 7,405 Posts
aSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Quote:
View Post
took it to a uni in northern Germany to share with some of the students he knew there - none of them could pass the test, and they were German natives ...
Uni students are unable to do the Langgymi entrance test performed by 6th graders?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 13.03.2019, 22:44
araqyl's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Zurich, West-side
Posts: 1,723
Groaned at 6 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 837 Times in 471 Posts
araqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Would *you* pass the Gymi entry test?

Quote:
View Post
Uni students are unable to do the Langgymi entrance test performed by 6th graders?
They hadn't spent the better part of 12 months training for it ...

Even a Swiss teacher I know who teaches German in a Zurich Gymnasium admits that in each test there are questions which are ambiguous.
As for marking the essays ... at least one school has no clear marking scheme, as another friend of mine found out when they asked for a review of their son's paper. Spoke to two different senior German teachers (on different days), got two very different explanations of why the essay wasn't acceptable. Neither had done the original marking of that particular essay.

As for those apostrophes ... if there are many Tinas, and they have parents, you can most certainly have the Tinas' parents. What would you use instead? The Tinas parents? The Tinas's parents? Or the Tina's parents?
The Oxford Dictionary doesn't specifically address having many people possessing something together, but does include guidelines on plural possessive nouns in general.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank araqyl for this useful post:
Reply

Tags
gymipruefung




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Could you hack it or would you rather live on the streets? CathHarmony General off-topic 11 27.02.2016 11:33
Will this pass the Swiss test? marton Transportation/driving 2 08.11.2015 09:52
Can you pass this test? No one else can MidfieldGeneral International affairs/politics 36 14.12.2014 08:24
If you would win 20 million CHF in the lottery, would you stay in Switzerland desperate Finance/banking/taxation 52 03.10.2011 14:23
So can you pass the German driving test? Ittigen Transportation/driving 5 13.05.2010 09:43


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 01:51.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0