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Funeral Arrangements

Hi, I'm looking for any help please on swiss customs re funeral arrangements
My cousin has recently passed away. She lived alone in Switzerland without any immediate family. We have found her Will but she didn't leave any instructions in her Will relating to her funeral wishes.

Is it custom to reserve a plot in Switzerland, should i be trying to call Funeral homes to search under her name for a reserved plot ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated as when I google search for cemeteries in Zollikerberg - I get 3 results, only 2 have numbers and of those doesnt work. I don't speak any German which doesnt help

Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated
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Re: Funeral Arrangements

Residents have the right to a place in the local cemetary.

The costs vary, depending on if it is a full grave , or just a place for ashes.

Otherwise, the ashes may just be in a box.

Contact the town she resided in, they will have the info.

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Re: Funeral Arrangements

Thanks very much for replying

I should have added the following to the original post.

She was originally from Ireland and other family members think she may have wished to go back to Ireland and some think it should be Switzerland. We are also unsure if she wished to be buried or cremated.

I thought perhaps if it were custom to book a plot, then a local cemetery may have her details then that would give us our answer

So i just wondered if that was custom in Switzerland

We're just lost as to how to ensure we carry out her final wishes when they weren't listed in her will
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Any help would be greatly appreciated as when I google search for cemeteries in Zollikerberg - I get 3 results, only 2 have numbers and of those doesnt work. I don't speak any German which doesnt help
Zollikerberg belongs to the town Zollikon.
The Bestattungsamt, the towns office which is reponible for funerals and cemeteries can be reach bz number +41 44 395 32 30 see also
https://www.zollikon.ch/aemter/15393
Very likely they will find a person which speaks English and can help you.
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Re: Funeral Arrangements

Thanks very much for your reply

My sister has actually spoken to this office when we were initially searching for the Will and they couldn't find anything. It is odd as now we have found the Will (it was a handwritten Will kept at home) she mentions this office in the Will but they insist they don't have any details (I understand they were very helpful but just say they can't find anything)

Just trying to think of other steps we could take... hence thinking should we be contacting Funeral homes ? or is that just not something that the Swiss would do
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Re: Funeral Arrangements

Sorry for your loss.

If she didn't make her wishes clear, what do the next of kin prefer? Of course there's going to be a bit of red tape no matter which way you go, but if she left no clear instructions I wouldn't try to do what I think is the Swiss way. I'd do what the living family members think is best and want for their own grieving process.
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Re: Funeral Arrangements

Thanks for your reply

Not trying to do it the Swiss way, just trying to find out what her wishes were as family is divided in opinion re if she would want Ireland or Switzerland. Her Will states that she had left clear instructions at that office but they say they can't find them

If there was no suggestion that she had left final Wishes then Yes we would just make a decision but it seems wrong not to exhaust every possibility in finding what the Final Wishes were when she clearly states she had left them

I really just wondered if in Switzerland people booked Plots at Cemeteries like they do in the uk and if this route was worth exploring or if thats not common practice.

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My sister has actually spoken to this office when we were initially searching for the Will and they couldn't find anything. It is odd as now we have found the Will (it was a handwritten Will kept at home) she mentions this office in the Will but they insist they don't have any details (I understand they were very helpful but just say they can't find anything)
Silly question, but did she indeed live in Zollikon or Zollikerberg?
Not that she has moved to a different place and you are looking in the wrong town.

The Bestattungsamt indeed offers the service that you can deposit the your burial wishes. Maybe she intended but never did or the unfortunate happened and it got lost. The form would look like this https://www.zollikon.ch/_docn/156242...ungswunsch.pdf
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Re: Funeral Arrangements

She lived in 8125 Zollikerberg

Thanks for the link to the form - good to know what were looking for
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Re: Funeral Arrangements

The town where she lived should have the records.

Also, if you know who did the burial/cremation they should also know.

That said, my wife still doesn't know what happened to her sister's ashes three years on.

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I really just wondered if in Switzerland people booked Plots at Cemeteries like they do in the uk and if this route was worth exploring or if thats not common practice.
Generally not as you get a free place in the local cemetery. But possible. Even in the towns cemeteries you can get special plots. The cemetery Berg and Dorf in Zollikon are managed by the town administration.

Most cemeteries are managed by the local town administration. There are only a few handful private run cemeteries.
One is the Waldfriedhof of the Krematorium Rüti: Tel. +41 55 240 13 53
another one the Hohe Promenade in Zurich Tel.: +41 44 321 65 13
But the later has a long waiting list.
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Re: Funeral Arrangements

Great thanks so much for that info and those numbers - i will call them tomorrow

The Local Community Office that we've been speaking to is Zollikon. I've just done a google map search and as that's a separate place - is it possible that Zollikerberg has it's only local community office ?
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Generally not as you get a free place in the local cemetery.
Not free.

CHF 200 for a place for ashes for 20 years, CHF 2000 for a burial plot for the same period (at least around here).

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Re: Funeral Arrangements

In all honesty, as she made no requests for burial or cremation or whether it should be in Ireland or Switzerland, this would suggest to me that she really didn't care in the least, so I would do it as easiest and cheaply as possible.
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Re: Funeral Arrangements

You must have missed an earlier thread....

Her Will states that she had taken care of all the arrangements and the details were held at the local community office in Zollikon - the problem is that they say they don't have them so we are trying to search via other avenues
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Thanks very much for replying

I should have added the following to the original post.

She was originally from Ireland and other family members think she may have wished to go back to Ireland and some think it should be Switzerland. We are also unsure if she wished to be buried or cremated.

I thought perhaps if it were custom to book a plot, then a local cemetery may have her details then that would give us our answer

So i just wondered if that was custom in Switzerland

We're just lost as to how to ensure we carry out her final wishes when they weren't listed in her will
You should be aware that graves here are for a limited time. Then they dig up what remains and give the grave
to the next one. Not the way we do things in Ireland....
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You must have missed an earlier thread....

Her Will states that she had taken care of all the arrangements and the details were held at the local community office in Zollikon - the problem is that they say they don't have them so we are trying to search via other avenues
Try the RC church then, not the community.
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Try the RC church then, not the community.

My thoughts as well, AlisonD, look up the local church on the internet and send them an email, in English will be OK, they will translate and reply back in English.


Although she lived alone, she may have had friends at that church who might like to know about her funeral arrangements wherever it may be.
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You should be aware that graves here are for a limited time. Then they dig up what remains and give the grave
to the next one. Not the way we do things in Ireland....
I wanted to make that point too. From memory, it is only 30 years here, but don't quote me on that.. Someone I know was then given the headstone as a memento. This was in Kanton Zh, and happened a few years back and was definitely 30 years in that case.
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You should be aware that graves here are for a limited time. Then they dig up what remains and give the grave
to the next one. Not the way we do things in Ireland....
Nor here in Ticino.

My wife's great grandmother has had hers since 1923, Hermann Hesse (who is buried a couple graves over from my wife's parents) since 1962, etc.

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