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k_and_e 08.05.2019 20:43

Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Inspired by this thread: https://www.englishforum.ch/swiss-po...y-visible.html

Ok, we are all talking about saving the world but I'm interested in what EF members actually do, perhaps also as an inspiration for others.

Myself: not too impressive actually: I recycle by following the Swiss system, always walk/bike to work, buy sometimes second hand stuff instead of new.
But also: produce too much waste, shower too long, don't look too much about how and were products are produced and fly regularly.

omtatsat 08.05.2019 21:17

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by k_and_e (Post 3066913)
Inspired by this thread: https://www.englishforum.ch/swiss-po...y-visible.html

Ok, we are all talking about saving the world but I'm interested in what EF members actually do, perhaps also as an inspiration for others.

Myself: not too impressive actually: I recycle by following the Swiss system, always walk/bike to work, buy sometimes second hand stuff instead of new.
But also: produce too much waste, shower too long, don't look too much about how and were products are produced and fly regularly.

I only drink water from the tap and refill my plastic bottle that I have been using for 1 month. Time for a recycle of this bottle.Always drink loose tea. Never a tea bag.

st2lemans 08.05.2019 21:50

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Decimate the population.

It's the only way.

Tom

bugger 08.05.2019 22:33

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
https://cff2.earth.com/uploads/2017/...825/145043.jpg

omtatsat 09.05.2019 08:32

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3066942)
Decimate the population.

It's the only way.

Tom

Maybe start with Tessin:eek:

Guest 09.05.2019 08:41

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
I donít have 8 kids.

omtatsat 09.05.2019 08:42

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Loz1983 (Post 3066987)
I donít have 8 kids.

Congratulations!

aag681 09.05.2019 09:06

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
That's a great thread and a good question:

What I do for the environment:
recycle according to the Swiss system, don't use paper towels (the amount of garbage decreased significantly), don't use any chemicals to clean the house (water, vinegar, baking soda and lemon in most cases do the job), don't use the tumbler (in winter I hang the clothes in the common drying room, in summer on a drying rack on my balcony), decrease the amount of meat (we eat meat 3-4 times per month and it's usually poultry or fish), try to buy bio products, walk and use pubic transportation as much as I can (not owning a car helps a lot), take a short shower, try to "give the things the second life" (for example give away the books, clothes instead of throwing them away), don't use plastic bags (when I buy vegetables I take a net bag with me), don't use film foil...

What I do against the environment:
drink sparkling water (and generate a lot of plastic bottles!), still eat meat and diary products (and honestly I can't imagine becoming a vegan), still drink tea in bags (but I'm working on that), fly (being an expat with family in remote countries and continents doesn't help at all).

I'm sure I have more sins against the nature that's why I'd love to know what other people do to save the planet!

st2lemans 09.05.2019 09:10

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by omtatsat (Post 3066980)
Maybe start with Tessin:eek:

Ticino doesn't have an overpopulation problem like the north, and we have an energy surplus, all of which is green. :eek:

Tom

John_H 09.05.2019 09:25

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
My house is frankly shocking in terms of saving the planet... I tried, i continue to try but the rest of the family just don't join in.

We do put glass bottles in recycling mostly. and big cartons too .
But the general rule of thumb in my place is that if it fits in the tax bag, it goes in there.. Yeah paper, PET, glass, ALU, food.. You name it, we keep the incinerator running for your electricity.
Usually I go home from work and find all of the lights on, in broad daylight, and nobody is home, TV is usually on too.

I rarely use the car right enough, except big shopping or actual trips.. I much prefer to walk or bus..
However the other half usually drives the kids to school, 300m away.

:msnmad:

AbFab 09.05.2019 09:30

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
IĎm breathing much less these days: less oxygen used up and less carbon dioxide exhaled...

omtatsat 09.05.2019 09:32

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
I pee in da garden now. Saves toilet water.

grumpygrapefruit 09.05.2019 09:35

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
For:
No kids, no car (mobility use once a month though), recycle almost everything possible (a 17L taxed back lasts me at least 1 week), eat very little meat, live in a well insulated apartment - only 1 radiator needed through the winter.

Against:
Fly within Europe once a month, import food products from the UK commercially, sometimes fart.

amogles 09.05.2019 09:48

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
I donít own a car. Most of my furniture is second hand or antique. I recycle as much as possible. Most bills etc I handle online and donít have paper copies sent to me. The banks, utilities etc are good with that but unfortunately dentists etc still donít get it. I also read my favorite newspapers online. I buy bio food as much as possible and buy as much local and seasonal stuff as possible. I also grow some of my own. I donít have a lawn mower but use a scythe.


Contra, I do Travel a lot. I take the train if possible but lots of overnight trains have benn eliminated over the last years by the very same governments who moan about the climate change thing. So lots of places I used to catch the train to are now only reachable by plane if I donít want to spend two days traveling.

And despite all I do, i am sceptical about the whole climate change panic. My philosophy is more about conserving resources, which on my view is by far the bigger problem.

jamon8 09.05.2019 12:22

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Send condoms to Africa and South-east Asia.

Jack of all trades. 09.05.2019 13:09

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Educate yourselves.

Why not read and learn about how the brain deceives us all. And it does it in ways you would not believe.

The problem is the brain/mind has not caught up with modern life.

And until the brain/mind does catch up, or until we can modify ourselves in some other way, we have to accept that things are not going to change for a long long time...

And that is why the intellectual Elite favor population reduction. And I am sure it will be done in the most vicious way imaginable.

Thankyou all...

BasP72 09.05.2019 13:17

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3066942)
Decimate the population.

It's the only way.

Tom


A worldwide ebola epidemic should do the trick :)

All out nuclear war between the USA, Iran and Russia will also help the planet. :D

FCBarca 09.05.2019 13:18

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Dedicated recyclers of just about everything & anything possible. We bring our own bags like most Suisse to the markets and avoid plastic as much as possible (particularly in packaging).

Try to buy 2nd hand when feasible else we donate 2nd hand items in acceptable condition

Drive hybrid technology automobiles and next auto will absolutely be something electric but we've generally tried to minimize our fossil fuel dependence wherever possible (No gas mower or trimmer).

We don't buy bottled water and even at work I use my own container. We buy bio whenever possible - never have bought anything other than Suisse meat or poultry here. A good deal of our produce or meat is purchased from local farmers & butchers and this has been the case for a number of years now. In general, we have definitely reduced our carnivorous tendencies and eat more vegetarian dishes.

I've nearly given up sushi altogether which has long been my favorite meal to eat but it's almost completely off my radar now - from several times a month back in the US to once in a year, if I am lucky. I do miss Hamachi though

We have a very energy efficient home with solar panels to heat water, geothermal energy and minimize our electrical consumption. We too minimize paper use

I change the oil in our cars myself and also recycle this used oil

Against: Definitely the cars but we hope to improve this in the coming year or so. Probably not unplugging electronics when not in use or fully charged, often enough

Generally speaking though, I'm quite pleased with our efforts and perhaps more importantly our two kids have learned respect for this as well






slammer 09.05.2019 13:25

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BasP72 (Post 3067073)
A worldwide ebola epidemic should do the trick :)

All out nuclear war between the USA, Iran and Russia will also help the planet. :D

Then you will simply love this book:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Plan..._the_President

krlock3 09.05.2019 14:40

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
I for one would like to hear more from you about this subject!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack of all trades. (Post 3067067)
Educate yourselves.

Why not read and learn about how the brain deceives us all. And it does it in ways you would not believe.

The problem is the brain/mind has not caught up with modern life.

And until the brain/mind does catch up, or until we can modify ourselves in some other way, we have to accept that things are not going to change for a long long time...

And that is why the intellectual Elite favor population reduction. And I am sure it will be done in the most vicious way imaginable.

Thankyou all...


ZuriRollt 09.05.2019 15:25

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by k_and_e (Post 3066913)
Inspired by this thread: https://www.englishforum.ch/swiss-po...y-visible.html

Ok, we are all talking about saving the world but I'm interested in what EF members actually do, perhaps also as an inspiration for others.

Myself: not too impressive actually: I recycle by following the Swiss system, always walk/bike to work, buy sometimes second hand stuff instead of new.
But also: produce too much waste, shower too long, don't look too much about how and were products are produced and fly regularly.

Good thread - wasted unfortunately on EF...

Blueangel 09.05.2019 15:27

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
For: Don't have a car, no kids, vegetarian, don't use heaps of cleaninng products, grow some of my own veg, only buy new furniture, etc, if I can't find it in the brocki or second hand. I can't remember a time before recycling being a 'big thing'. It wasn't so government organised, but it was always there. My dad and all my grandparents made a fair effort to recycle stuff, and I used to help my nan to unravel old jumpers for the wool. OH's dad made his fortune recycling old computers to extract the metals.

Against: Fly and fart (thaks for the reminder grumpy ;)).

Tom1234 09.05.2019 15:51

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
For:

Try and avoid flying too much.
We try and go by train (which is getting more difficult as Amogles mentioned as lots of overnight-train services have stopped).

If we go by car we tend to have a full car.

We use public transport or bicycles a lot.

Our car is only 1.2L.

We tend to only have one 35L rubbish sack per week (for a family of five).
We recycle as much as we can.

We don't tend to replace electronics on a whim and don't need the latest version. Our phones are old but still do the job.

We repair where possible rather than replace (down to component level on some boards).

We almost always buy Swiss meat and don't eat meat every day.

We don't buy fruit and veg that has been flown in and otherwise try to keep things seasonal (a lot easier here than in the U.K.)

We don't eat more than we need to as none of us are overweight.

Against:

Our house is not very well insulated compared with the old one.
The heating could be turned down in Winter. I'm used to draughty old English houses and like it cold. My wife likes warmer places.

I like real books rather than ebooks.

We haven't yet replaced all the lamp bulbs in our place with low energy ones.

We have children. Children who are generally wasteful of hot water etc.

omtatsat 09.05.2019 15:58

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack of all trades. (Post 3067067)
Educate yourselves.

Why not read and learn about how the brain deceives us all. And it does it in ways you would not believe.

The problem is the brain/mind has not caught up with modern life.

And until the brain/mind does catch up, or until we can modify ourselves in some other way, we have to accept that things are not going to change for a long long time...

And that is why the intellectual Elite favor population reduction. And I am sure it will be done in the most vicious way imaginable.

Thankyou all...

Did not know there was an elite and certainly not an intellectual elite. For gods sake get a hold of yourself!

ZuriRollt 09.05.2019 16:21

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
I follow the recent urgent declarations of the effects of climate change on biodiversity and our ecosystems, and keep myself up-to-date on a daily basis about the recent Global declarations that this is URGENT.

My generations caused this, and it’s time that we did something to support getting us out of this climate catastrophe which is inevitable unless things change.

I’m not going into my vegetarianism, not owning a car, good recycling habits, using renewable energy wherever the transparency exists, rarely flying except once every 3 years to show my daughter what biodiversity is about etc. etc. etc., because it will be lost on most EFers.

Nor will I go into the bad examples I have set in the past, because it’s time to wake up. P.S. the groans I’m receiving on this topic only confirm ignorance on understanding one of the main political happenings that is currently happening in the World - groan as much as you like:

There is so much going on on this topic at the moment, because it’s urgent. It’s daily - just read the news and get informed. For any EFers that care:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK47Pnx46rM

https://www.ipbes.net/news/Media-Rel...o4naU9sVyLSyQY

Here are quite a few papers pulled together for anyone interested:

https://www.facebook.com/ExtinctionRebellion/

Guest 09.05.2019 16:50

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZuriRollt (Post 3067130)
Nor will I go into the bad examples I have set in the past, because itís time to wake up. P.S. the groans Iím receiving on this topic only confirm ignorance on understanding one of the main political happenings that is currently happening in the World

And thatís what it comes down to folks. Itís remarkable how quickly these eco protest movements get highjacked by socialism. Watch how quickly ďsave the planet!Ē becomes ďredistribute the wealth!Ē, ďtax the rich!Ē and ďsilent the dissenter!Ē. Every. Single. Time.

This is what concerns me the most about ďclimate changeĒ, wankers demanding higher taxes and more control over my life.

st2lemans 09.05.2019 16:58

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZuriRollt (Post 3067130)
one of the main political happenings

This.

Tom

k_and_e 09.05.2019 17:02

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3067117)
We tend to only have one 35L rubbish sack per week (for a family of five).


How do you manage to do that?

k_and_e 09.05.2019 17:03

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZuriRollt (Post 3067130)
I follow the recent urgent declarations of the effects of climate change on biodiversity and our ecosystems, and keep myself up-to-date on a daily basis about the recent Global declarations that this is URGENT.

My generations caused this, and itís time that we did something to support getting us out of this climate catastrophe which is inevitable unless things change.

Iím not going into my vegetarianism, not owning a car, good recycling habits, using renewable energy wherever the transparency exists, rarely flying except once every 3 years to show my daughter what biodiversity is about etc. etc. etc., because it will be lost on most EFers.

Nor will I go into the bad examples I have set in the past, because itís time to wake up. P.S. the groans Iím receiving on this topic only confirm ignorance on understanding one of the main political happenings that is currently happening in the World - groan as much as you like:

There is so much going on on this topic at the moment, because itís urgent. Itís daily - just read the news and get informed. For any EFers that care:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK47Pnx46rM

https://www.ipbes.net/news/Media-Rel...o4naU9sVyLSyQY

Here are quite a few papers pulled together for anyone interested:

https://www.facebook.com/ExtinctionRebellion/


The main reason why I started this thread was that I'm fed up of preaching and focused on doing. Please do the preaching part somewhere else.

Guest 09.05.2019 17:05

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by k_and_e (Post 3067145)
How do you manage to do that?

My husband always raises an eyebrow when he sees how much I can get into a 35L bag without it bursting. It's all about keeping corners and edges of packaging tucked in away from the sides... :D

k_and_e 09.05.2019 17:12

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

My husband always raises an eyebrow when he sees how much I can get into a 35L bag without it bursting. It's all about keeping corners and edges of packaging tucked in away from the sides... :D

that's what i do too. they're extremely full but we still have 3-5 17l bags per week.

st2lemans 09.05.2019 17:14

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
The answer is garbage tourism! :eek:

Tom

omtatsat 09.05.2019 17:14

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
This summer will tell. But then again I always pray for a scorcher. ( typical Australian !)

Guest 09.05.2019 17:18

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by k_and_e (Post 3067152)
that's what i do too. they're extremely full but we still have 3-5 17l bags per week.

Do you squish everything before it goes in the bag? We recycle whatever we can, which saves it going in the bin but everything else gets squished and flattened. I'm not paying to get rid of air. I have a reputation of being a tight-wad to maintain...

omtatsat 09.05.2019 17:28

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

My husband always raises an eyebrow when he sees how much I can get into a 35L bag without it bursting. It's all about keeping corners and edges of packaging tucked in away from the sides... :D
But you do that to save money . You dont do it for the climate. Using one plastic bag instead of 3 is no big deal! Its all the same weight of garbage. So reduce all this packing material of all the foods you buy. Buy loose food.Drink from the tap. Dont buy commercial soft drink crap

NotAllThere 09.05.2019 17:29

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Family of four adults. Even when we were six adults, we still had only one 35l bag per week. Compost and recycling. Rarely throw out food, often eat leftovers. Use public transport a great deal.

But that's not "saving the world". That's just saving money and not wasting stuff.

Tom1234 09.05.2019 17:30

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3067154)
The answer is garbage tourism! :eek:

Tom

That's the Swiss way.

Or they cram it into the bins at the supermarket.

omtatsat 09.05.2019 17:34

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Remember! Nature has a way to bring back a balance. Always! Whether its wars,eathquakes. etc etc.

Guest 09.05.2019 17:38

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by omtatsat (Post 3067159)
But you do that to save money . You dont do it for the climate. Using one plastic bag instead of 3 is no big deal! Its all the same weight of garbage. So reduce all this packing material of all the foods you buy. Buy loose food.Drink from the tap. Don't buy commercial soft drink crap

Err.. thanks for the tips...:msnsarcastic:

Of course I do it to save money AS WELL AS the environment. I recycle whatever can be recycled and I bin what can't. I was just pointing out that I am a dab hand at stuffing a bin-bag. Not one for the CV but probably fits into this thread.

Actually, I'm not a fan of soft drinks or fizz so inadvertently save the planet from that perspective, and I'm suspicious of prepacked veg and fruit because you don't know how it is on the side you can't see so, again, I inadvertently save the planet by buying loose.

I'm not an eco-warrior, I just like to avoid being a wasteful moron. :rolleyes:

Squeeeez 09.05.2019 17:42

Re: Climate change - what do you do to save the world?
 
what would the german/french name be for a machine which chops up everything into small pieces which would then fit nicely in a garbage bag?


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