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Getting a Job at UBS or Credit Suisse. Please PM me.

Dear all,


I'm a recent graduate at the University if Zurich ( Banking and Finance). I really want to get a graduate program position in Risk Management at my dream companies in Zurich, i.e. Credit Suisse and UBS.


I there anyone working at any of these two companies and who has experience hiring junior analysts? I never did an internship there by the way ( otherwise I would have already a job there and wouldn't need to post such this question).


I would be grateful if you could PM me and give me some hints for the application.





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Old 29.06.2019, 23:23
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Re: Getting a Job at UBS or Credit Suisse. Please PM me.

And what have you done in the mean time to qualify?
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Old 29.06.2019, 23:40
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Re: Getting a Job at UBS or Credit Suisse. Please PM me.

I'm already qualified. But that is not sufficient to get a job.
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I'm already qualified. But that is not sufficient to get a job.
As from your previous posts, something seems to be missing... try to work out why you didn’t get internships, start networking.


There are so many people well qualified that want to do that kind of job. YOU have to stand out in the crowd and on those benefits you can find a job. Nothing else will happen.....
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Re: Getting a Job at UBS or Credit Suisse. Please PM me.

Finding jobs is about selling yourself and making a good impression. This includes using appropriate language and register (formal vs. informal) as well as avoiding grammar and spelling mistakes.

I can't judge your experience but as someone reviewing your post, the way you present yourself is rather sloppy and shows a minimum effort to be impressive.

Next time, check your grammar, spacing and punctuation and perhaps avoid words such as "want." If you don't put in the effort of showing your best, why should someone hire you?
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Re: Getting a Job at UBS or Credit Suisse. Please PM me.

Have you thought about contracting?
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Re: Getting a Job at UBS or Credit Suisse. Please PM me.

In my experience, such companies favour candidates who are able to use Google.
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I'm already qualified. But that is not sufficient to get a job.
Who says you're qualified? If anything, judging from the fact that you don't have a job there yet, the evidence point to the contrary.
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Re: Getting a Job at UBS or Credit Suisse. Please PM me.

This is a forum for informal convo, not presidential speeches, I would cut the OP some reasonable slack. Another thing is the fact that he didn't get a job after internships as it seems, also normal. So...whatevs.

But, OP - do you really think people will pm you with their experiences and tips on how to get you employed? Nornally that is a paid service, contact a recruiting agency, etc. and pay to have your dossier revamped. And scout out job fairs for fresh grads, those are awesome and happen 2x year. Look your best, have your portfolio ready.
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Old 30.06.2019, 18:22
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Re: Getting a Job at UBS or Credit Suisse. Please PM me.

Some background info in this thread that might help avoid duplicating questions:
https://www.englishforum.ch/employme...-graduate.html
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Another thing is the fact that he didn't get a job after internships.
The OP stated in the first post they had not done any internships.

Thankfully 3wishes posted the link to the other thread of the OP.

Otherwise, with so little information from the OP about what they have tried already, and what research they have done, it is difficult for anyone to give much in the way of helpful information.

My remark about Google is admittedly a little flippant, however I did just type "Risk Management Internship" into Google and got links e.g. to the UBS internship page. The only way the OP is going to find something is by applying.

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My remark about Google is admittedly a little flippant, however I did just type "Risk Management Internship" into Google and got links e.g. to the UBS internship page. The only way the OP is going to find something is by applying.

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That he was told already in the previous thread but he seems unwilling to do that.
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The OP stated in the first post they had not done any internships.

Thankfully 3wishes posted the link to the other thread of the OP.

Otherwise, with so little information from the OP about what they have tried already, and what research they have done, it is difficult for anyone to give much in the way of helpful information.

My remark about Google is admittedly a little flippant, however I did just type "Risk Management Internship" into Google and got links e.g. to the UBS internship page. The only way the OP is going to find something is by applying.

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Good luck to OP with the applications!
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Well I really tried to stand out from the crowd by getting top grades during my Master. But despite my efforts my grades are way below average. I think this has mostly to do with professors not grading me fairly.

The reason I put this question is that I want tips not just to get a job, but to get a job at either CS or UBS. I was hoping that someone who actually works there could give me some insights, that go beyond what is written on the companies' websites.

So my question was not:



How to apply? ( I already knew the answer, thanks)


But rather:


How to successfully apply?

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How to successfully apply?
Oh you should have said that at start... there are at least three strategies, I know of from experience:
1. Nepotism, probably not otherwise you would not be asking
2. HNWI asking for a favor, again probably not...
3. Apply for the program and be better than most of the other applicants

Even if there was someone with special knowledge of or influence on such a program they sure as hell are not going to put themselves out for some random person on the internet, so wise up.
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The reason I put this question is that I want tips not just to get a job, but to get a job at either CS or UBS. I was hoping that someone who actually works there could give me some insights, that go beyond what is written on the companies' websites.
One way to get a job at your dream employer is to first collect some really excellent references from jobs at other, less important employers.
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Oh you should have said that at start... there are at least three strategies, I know of from experience:
1. Nepotism, probably not otherwise you would not be asking
2. HNWI asking for a favor, again probably not...
3. Apply for the program and be better than most of the other applicants

Even if there was someone with special knowledge of or influence on such a program they sure as hell are not going to put themselves out for some random person on the internet, so wise up.
Only option 3. The first two are strictly forbidden and banks have been fined in the last few years for the second.

I’ve been involved in the hiring of multiple interns and graduates over the last few years. All of them applied through the website, came from top schools, had excellent grades, interesting extra-curricular or multi-cultural experience and had previous work experience, but not necessarily banking related. In the interviews they came across as intelligent, enthusiastic, hard working and not entitled.

OP sorry to be blunt, the way you are coming across does not suggest you make the criteria. If you disagree, you need to re-think how you present yourself.
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Well I really tried to stand out from the crowd by getting top grades during my Master. But despite my efforts my grades are way below average. I think this has mostly to do with professors not grading me fairly.



Here is your answer.
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Re: Getting a Job at UBS or Credit Suisse. Please PM me.

I can change the way I present myself, but I can't change my grades. If they ask me why my grades are so low, can I just say that professors didnt grade me fairly? After all most of the exams I took were not multiple choice, so they couldnt be graded objectively.
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