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the room will be used as more or less sports room So I prefer big mirrors, although they are freaking expensive. I am still thinking a way to spend reasonable money to achieve the wall mirror goal
Here's another way, perhaps, towards your goal of being able to use a mirrored wall.

Depending on your exact purpose, and how often you will need to use the mirror-walled room, you might consider comparing the cost of the expense of modifying your own room, and the risks involved, with the cost of renting an existing venue.

Many sports halls, dance studios, yoga venues, etc. can be hired for just one slot a week. Some have the advantage of having enough toilets, change-rooms, etc., which can be an added advantage if you intend to offer courses or classes.
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Thank you Chuff for your suggestion.
BUT too many small mirrors are too distractible for me since the room will be used as more or less sports room So I prefer big mirrors, although they are freaking expensive. I am still thinking a way to spend reasonable money to achieve the wall mirror goal
I don't understand your logic at all. Surely you can fit the small ones together closely enough to make the size of any other big single mirror? How would it be distracting?

In the end it's basically the same thing.
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I don't understand your logic at all. Surely you can fit the small ones together closely enough to make the size of any other big single mirror? How would it be distracting?

In the end it's basically the same thing.
Unless a number of small mirrors forming a panel are mounted extremely accurately (co-planar), the effect can be disconcerting. For example, if you walk towards them, your body may appear to be broken up into several disjoint pieces.
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Re: about big mirror-wall installation in a room

Hi doropfiz,
Thanks for your suggestion.
The mirror-walled room is planed to use quite often (hopefully daily use). And sometimes I might organize yoga classes in it. So renting another venue for such frequent use is quite difficult. That's why I am trying to do by my own to decorate the room with big mirrors with reasonable price (hopefully)



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Here's another way, perhaps, towards your goal of being able to use a mirrored wall.

Depending on your exact purpose, and how often you will need to use the mirror-walled room, you might consider comparing the cost of the expense of modifying your own room, and the risks involved, with the cost of renting an existing venue.

Many sports halls, dance studios, yoga venues, etc. can be hired for just one slot a week. Some have the advantage of having enough toilets, change-rooms, etc., which can be an added advantage if you intend to offer courses or classes.
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You nicely answered the concerns or confusion I caused for Chuff.
Thank you very much



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Unless a number of small mirrors forming a panel are mounted extremely accurately (co-planar), the effect can be disconcerting. For example, if you walk towards them, your body may appear to be broken up into several disjoint pieces.
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Hi doropfiz,
Thanks for your suggestion.
The mirror-walled room is planed to use quite often (hopefully daily use). And sometimes I might organize yoga classes in it. So renting another venue for such frequent use is quite difficult. That's why I am trying to do by my own to decorate the room with big mirrors with reasonable price (hopefully)
Oh, I understand now.

If you have rented this room, especially if it is part of your apartment, please remember that you may need permission from your landlord to run classes there. Depending on the landlord, the important factor might be a) the business/commercial aspect or b) the noise. Maybe you already know that it is okay, and perhaps your purpose is already specified as part of the contract. I mention it just in case it isn't.

Also, you will be responsible for removing the mirrors before you leave the premises at the end of the lease, and for the repair of any damage caused to the paint/wallpaper. That's do-able, of course, and just needs to be factored in as another part of the cost of covering the wall.

I hope you can find a good solution, so you can run your yoga classes on just as you wish to do, whenever you choose.
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Re: about big mirror-wall installation in a room

As obvious, you will have to have smaller vertical panes to be able to apply them to a large wall.

You can contact the company https://www.glasmanufaktur.ch/de/

They are on the other edge of the Zürisee but they deliever everywhere. They cut and mount if you need. They are very professional and very nice.

Just had my entrance pre-existing wardrobe covered in mirrors. We did mount them ourselves, but the company cut it for us.
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Many thanks for your reminders and tips. They are very helpful of course. But those issues are no problem.

How to install the mirror-wall within reasonable budget is a big project for me at the moment



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Oh, I understand now.

If you have rented this room, especially if it is part of your apartment, please remember that you may need permission from your landlord to run classes there. Depending on the landlord, the important factor might be a) the business/commercial aspect or b) the noise. Maybe you already know that it is okay, and perhaps your purpose is already specified as part of the contract. I mention it just in case it isn't.

Also, you will be responsible for removing the mirrors before you leave the premises at the end of the lease, and for the repair of any damage caused to the paint/wallpaper. That's do-able, of course, and just needs to be factored in as another part of the cost of covering the wall.

I hope you can find a good solution, so you can run your yoga classes on just as you wish to do, whenever you choose.
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Re: about big mirror-wall installation in a room

Hi Helm,
Yes, I plan to have 3-4 pieces of the big mirrors with width of 100cm or 125cm.

Thanks for the info of the cutting mirror service company. May I ask where did you buy the big mirror for your wardrobe? Thanks a kot
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Thanks for the info of the cutting mirror service company. May I ask where did you buy the big mirror for your wardrobe? Thanks a kot
Sorry if I wasn't clear: the company I linked to are professional glaziers - they produce mirrors, glass, and everything related to it. They produce the glass that will be used by carpenters for in-built wardrobes, they produce the glass used in handrails by the metalworker, they produce decoration pieces for walls used by... whoever.

You will be going directly to the producer. The fitting and mounting is an extra feature
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Hello RTN,
Many thanks for your professional comment.
I asked a few company about the price including the installation. The price varies dramatically from 1000 CHF to 4000 CHF!!!
I have to say that I am shocked to receive the quotation. I really did not expect it will cost so much! My budget is below 400CHF
Looks like I have to find a smart way(maybe no way!) to install some mirrors on the wall.

RTN, may I ask another question? Besides the acidic tape or glue, how much of the aluminum frame for mirror installation? I rent the room, so apparently I do not want the wall gets destroyed by the mirror installation.
Thank you very much
Your budget is not in line with your requirements, Chf400 would scarcely get a wall painted or wallpapered! Never the less with a bit of compromise it is possible using Ikea or Micasa wardrobe doors off wardrobes 237 high giving you a mirror dimension 50 x 229cms.

Hinged doors are probably a better option as they have a solid backing but you will have the hole for the doorknob showing but you can get them frameless from Micasa at Chf230 pr or with frame from Ikea for Chf 60 ea. Remove shirting, fit rubber bump stops to the bottom of doors and stand on the floor. Use a bracket on top to screw to the backing of the door and into the wall to secure them.

Ikea. https://www.ikea.com/ch/en/catalog/products/S69904237/

Micasa Pg14 from this catalogue. https://cdn.migros.ch/documents/2c4a...0db64011edc8df

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https://www.ikea.com/ch/en/catalog/products/S69904237/
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Re: about big mirror-wall installation in a room

just go to a mirror company and order a custom cut mirror. it's not that expensive.

i ordered a 2x1.5m mirror for the bathroom.

if easier to handle, you could order it in several panels and put together, but then you would have seams.
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Hi Helm,
Sorry, it was my misunderstanding. I opened their page and did not look careful enough. So assume that they only cut and install glasses/mirrors.

Now I took close look, and already sent them my request and waiting for their answer.

Thank you very much for the info.
May I ask how much is it for you to buy the big mirror from them? Just want to get a rough idea how much mine will be, exclude the shipping and installation

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Sorry if I wasn't clear: the company I linked to are professional glaziers - they produce mirrors, glass, and everything related to it. They produce the glass that will be used by carpenters for in-built wardrobes, they produce the glass used in handrails by the metalworker, they produce decoration pieces for walls used by... whoever.

You will be going directly to the producer. The fitting and mounting is an extra feature
Hello RTN,
You are an angel

Many thanks for these practical information. The thickness of Ikea and Micasa mirrors in wardrobes is 1.9cm, which is relatively thick than normal big mirrors (5mm or 6mm). I will take a close look for those options you suggested.
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Your budget is not in line with your requirements, Chf400 would scarcely get a wall painted or wallpapered! Never the less with a bit of compromise it is possible using Ikea or Micasa wardrobe doors off wardrobes 237 high giving you a mirror dimension 50 x 229cms.

Hinged doors are probably a better option as they have a solid backing but you will have the hole for the doorknob showing but you can get them frameless from Micasa at Chf230 pr or with frame from Ikea for Chf 60 ea. Remove shirting, fit rubber bump stops to the bottom of doors and stand on the floor. Use a bracket on top to screw to the backing of the door and into the wall to secure them.

Ikea. https://www.ikea.com/ch/en/catalog/products/S69904237/

Micasa Pg14 from this catalogue. https://cdn.migros.ch/documents/2c4a...0db64011edc8df

The company Helm suggested is good, I have used them a few times. You owe me beer!





https://www.ikea.com/ch/en/catalog/products/S69904237/
Thanks Phil.
How much you paid for the mirror of 2mx1.5m?

I am thinking to put 4 pieces of 1.8 or 1.9 m(height) x 1.25m (width) together should do the job. A few seams should be fine



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just go to a mirror company and order a custom cut mirror. it's not that expensive.

i ordered a 2x1.5m mirror for the bathroom.

if easier to handle, you could order it in several panels and put together, but then you would have seams.

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May I ask how much is it for you to buy the big mirror from them? Just want to get a rough idea how much mine will be, exclude the shipping and installation
I unmounted my own doors and took them to the fabric, then picked them up and installed them back myself. So I only paid for the mirror, cutting and application on pre-existing doors. The mirror was in total 2,30mx2m. I was about 260chf, but I am not sure anymore (i have to find my bills and I am currently at work).

It was actually much cheaper than I was counting on, but on the other hand I installed the whole thing myself.

As RTN mentioned, 400chf is not much. A friend wanted to install a 2x4m wallpaper (granted, not an easy pattern) and the cheapest quote was 1000chf. House work is not cheap in Switzerland. On the other hand, you can learn and try it yourself (which is what I did. Painted the whole shoe box I was living in for 70chf. I actually managed to get the money back from the landlord).
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Hello Helm,
Many thanks for your kind reply and useful info.
The price you paid is comparable to my budget, about 60CHF/m2
However, I got quite different quotation with the same company, without installation 140CHF/m2, with installation 300CHF/m2. Plus the other installation parts, films and tax etc., the total amount is also high .
RTN and you are right. Looks like my budget is a bit too low for what I want to do. So I will adjust my budget slightly up (say around 600CHF), which might work with this Germany company https://www.myspiegel.de/spiegelwaen...ngen-p-85.html

Does anyone ever ordered big mirrors from them?



Since they deliver for free, I consider that it is good option for me.

Then the biggest part is whether I am able to install those mirrors properly by myself, even with the help of some friends


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I unmounted my own doors and took them to the fabric, then picked them up and installed them back myself. So I only paid for the mirror, cutting and application on pre-existing doors. The mirror was in total 2,30mx2m. I was about 260chf, but I am not sure anymore (i have to find my bills and I am currently at work).

It was actually much cheaper than I was counting on, but on the other hand I installed the whole thing myself.

As RTN mentioned, 400chf is not much. A friend wanted to install a 2x4m wallpaper (granted, not an easy pattern) and the cheapest quote was 1000chf. House work is not cheap in Switzerland. On the other hand, you can learn and try it yourself (which is what I did. Painted the whole shoe box I was living in for 70chf. I actually managed to get the money back from the landlord).
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...Since they deliver for free, I consider that it is good option for me...
I didn't read the link. They seriously drive into Switzerland to deliver for free? Do they handle all the Customs paperwork for you too? That would be nice.
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Hi 3Wishes,
Thanks for pointing that out. I also concerned about it. But this is what they said on the webpage. Hopefully it will be handled smoothly once I make the order



Shipping costs Switzerland / Liechtenstein

Free of charge from shopping cart value of 150,00 €
(Under 150,00 € Shopping cart value - only 5,90 € shipping costs)

You pay only the net prices of the respective article + 7.7% Swiss VAT
(The German VAT of 19% will be deducted automatically in the cart)

For your documents, you will receive two invoices from us:
Once without the German VAT of 19% and another invoice with the customs costs including 7.7% Swiss VAT.
The customs costs per delivery are only € 11.90

We take care of all the formalities that are necessary for the import.
There are no further costs for you!

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I didn't read the link. They seriously drive into Switzerland to deliver for free? Do they handle all the Customs paperwork for you too? That would be nice.
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