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Actually, my friend said that some of these 《surveys》 are actually a scam and they are realy bandits who are working in teams... theirs one bandit who stays out side ur house and another who wares a sbb uniform and they find out where r u going and how long u gonna be away and then they RAMSACK ur house cos they know u r gonna be in Genf or Basle or where ever.

Don't tell them nothing! Even the real one's can mind there own bees wax! 😡
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And they make repeated attempts to hack your EF account using the station names you give them as password.

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Actually, my friend said that some of these 《surveys》 are actually a scam and they are realy bandits who are working in teams... theirs one bandit who stays out side ur house and another who wares a sbb uniform and they find out where r u going and how long u gonna be away and then they RAMSACK ur house cos they know u r gonna be in Genf or Basle or where ever.

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Old 11.09.2019, 21:13
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Nobody, and I mean nobody, dares to complain about CFF. Everyone's busy looking for a kidney to sell to be able to afford the train service.

Actually, it's ok. Way cheaper if bought ahead and online, apparently. For some trains. I am a fan. Just don't like to be barked at "Where are you going?"
What , is this a train? And is it going somewhere?
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Re: Train inspector asking about trip details

SBB want to know about trips not so much legs. They also want to know about fare patterns.

- the usage patterns on a route (adjust stops, alter frequency, alter routes etc)
- learn where passengers what to go (alter routes)
- Station capacity planning (alter transfer station - less Zürich HB dependant)

and the big ones

- train revenue - how much money does a train earn - what kind of tickets do the passenger on a particular train have. If a train is full of GA holder as opposed to single ticket passengers it bring in a lot less money.

- ticket usage patterns - what tickets do the passengers on a given train have. Are GA holder using the pass as season ticket. Are trains at peak times being filled by people with cheap tickets, while those with more expensive ticket have to stand.

The aim is to refine the tarif model, maybe only allow GA at off peak times or have a far more expensive peak time GA. Issue super cheap ticket for some specific trains to attract more passengers, thus reducing the the load on others.
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Old 12.09.2019, 08:19
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Why didn't you just ask?
To be honest, although my German is not half bad, I struggle with dialect and I'm a little shy/afraid that I'll make a fool of myself by asking a question that I won't understand the answer to.
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Old 12.09.2019, 08:26
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The aim is to refine the tarif model, maybe only allow GA at off peak times or have a far more expensive peak time GA. Issue super cheap ticket for some specific trains to attract more passengers, thus reducing the the load on others.
Holy crap, I hope not. The GA is not cheap as it is (with the recent pirce increase from 2016), and an increase would put work commuters in a tight spot. It's not like they need more money: in 2017 (the last published figures) they made CHF 500m EBIT and CHF 399m in consolidated result, with a huge cash flow (and there was a heavy hit from the Gotthard acquisition in the year). With reasonably limited public-funding, it seems to run smoothly.
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Old 12.09.2019, 08:57
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Holy crap, I hope not. The GA is not cheap as it is (with the recent pirce increase from 2016), and an increase would put work commuters in a tight spot. It's not like they need more money: in 2017 (the last published figures) they made CHF 500m EBIT and CHF 399m in consolidated result, with a huge cash flow (and there was a heavy hit from the Gotthard acquisition in the year). With reasonably limited public-funding, it seems to run smoothly.
Nevertheless , SBB has a huge and growing investment backlog . Ok, probably peanuts compared to the UK, but still needing to be addressed. An organisation such as SBB can turn a profit or a loss to meet political expediency just by doing clever stuff with depreciation . Infrastructure upgrades are still largely about taxpayer money and it is political forces and not SBB that decide when these happen.

There is political pressure from the government that wants to see SBB make some changes. There is even recurring talk suggesting GA users are not shouldering their fair share of costs . I expect there will be further price hikes in years to come.
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Re: Train inspector asking about trip details

Last time the controller ask me where I was going it's because I was sleeping and I was on my way to Lucerne after missing my stop in Zug

I love SBB
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Old 12.09.2019, 09:26
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Re: Train inspector asking about trip details

If they didn't do the surveys, they wouldn't know that it's only elite, high earning men over 50 making up the lion's share of the 1st class GA...

Sorry, it's only in German but here's the gist which I chucked through Google translate, so the English is a bit lumpy...

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The typical first-class commuter is male, over 50, engrossed in the laptop and wears shirt and suit: this is more than a cliche, as figures show the national tariff organization Ch-direct. Of the 47,000 individuals holding a first-grade GA, only one-third are women. In the second-class GA, on the other hand, the proportion of women is clearly over 50 percent. First-class passengers are also older: they are on average 55 years old, those in 2nd class 42.3 years old.
The comments at the bottom of the article are worth a read, too. Some people are very cross indeed.
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Old 12.09.2019, 09:47
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If they didn't do the surveys, they wouldn't know that it's only elite, high earning men over 50 making up the lion's share of the 1st class GA...

Sorry, it's only in German but here's the gist which I chucked through Google translate, so the English is a bit lumpy...



The comments at the bottom of the article are worth a read, too. Some people are very cross indeed.
This was in yesterday's edition actually. Maybe The Local will pick up on it sometime in October.

Personally I think it's great that in Switzerland it is considered normal that people who qualify for a company car can ask for a 1st class GA instead, and that very many do. That says tons about the quality of public transport here.
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Old 12.09.2019, 09:57
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This was in yesterday's edition actually. Maybe The Local will pick up on it sometime in October.

Personally I think it's great that in Switzerland it is considered normal that people who qualify for a company car can ask for a 1st class GA instead, and that very many do. That says tons about the quality of public transport here.
Yes, quite. Rather adorably missed the point of the article but, hey.
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Re: Train inspector asking about trip details

Should I also be worry when I fly abroad?
The air company may be also involved!

Just to be safe : do not speak to strangers (keep watching mobiles) 🤣

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Actually, my friend said that some of these 《surveys》 are actually a scam and they are realy bandits who are working in teams... theirs one bandit who stays out side ur house and another who wares a sbb uniform and they find out where r u going and how long u gonna be away and then they RAMSACK ur house cos they know u r gonna be in Genf or Basle or where ever.

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Don't tell them nothing! Even the real one's can mind there own bees wax! 😡
If it stops our little local station from losing services, I'm going to tell them every time.
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Yes, quite. Rather adorably missed the point of the article but, hey.
irony is having somebody who doesn't speak German despite very many years in the country claim to see the point of a crappy German newspaper article from a crappy free newspaper when actually she doesn't.

But hey, why should thge clueless pass over an oportunity to dish out offence?
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irony is having somebody who doesn't speak German despite very many years in the country claim to see the point of a crappy German newspaper article from a crappy free newspaper when actually she doesn't.

But hey, why should the clueless pass over an opportunity to dish out offence?
Eh? Who doesn't speak German? And what "offence" are you talking about?

I put the translation there because everyone moans about articles posted on EF in the local language and not in English.

Originally I thought your main grump with the article was that it was from yesterday.

Wow, that escalated fast...
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If it stops our little local station from losing services, I'm going to tell them every time.
Suburbia will be the death of our planet!
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Suburbia will be the death of our planet!
The real problem with SBB is the passengers. Things would run so much more smoothly without them.
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Eh? Who doesn't speak German? And what "offence" are you talking about?

I put the translation there because everyone moans about articles posted on EF in the local language and not in English.

Originally I thought your main grump with the article was that it was from yesterday.

Wow, that escalated fast...
It wasn't about one comment. It was about a continuous stream of this type of thing coming from you.

If you can dish it out you need to be able to take it.
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Suburbia will be the death of our planet!
It's a village, not suburbia.
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But John Betjeman got some good poems out of it.
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