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I can't speak for Geneva (which may make my whole post moot), but I can assure you that there is a wide range of diversity in our classrooms, even in the depths of the wilds in my area.

Now if we were to talk about the politics, I'd have to admit many locals (God bless them) are too right-leaning for my liking but I won't give up on being the tedious devil's advocate.

Good luck.
Being the devil's advocate for those swiss people (like me), one could say that the public schools around bigger cities are so diverse that the majority of swiss people tries to avoid those schools if possible.
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Being the devil's advocate for those swiss people (like me), one could say that the public schools around bigger cities are so diverse that the majority of swiss people tries to avoid those schools if possible.
uh oh. this kind of says something.
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many locals (God bless them) are too right-leaning for my liking
Move to Romadie, problem solved!



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uh oh. this kind of says something.
Yes,
but after reading what I wrote I should rephrase the "majority of swiss people" to "some swiss people". It's not like there are some statistics around.
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Being the devil's advocate for those swiss people (like me), one could say that the public schools around bigger cities are so diverse that the majority of swiss people tries to avoid those schools if possible.

Luckily, the Swiss still have a good amount of common sense. Let's just see how long it will last before they succumb to the disease of the rest of Western Europe.
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Luckily, the Swiss still have a good amount of common sense. Let's just see how long it will last before they succumb to the disease of the rest of Western Europe.
Perhaps you'd like to start a thread in which you may expound your pet political theories to your little heart's content, rather than derailing other people's?

Just a thought.
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uh oh. this kind of says something.
Perhaps. But then again, maybe it doesn't.

Without sufficient command of language your kid is at a severe disadvantage. Since kids learn from each other it's important that the other pupils, on average, know the local language. Once a certain level of foreigners is reached (whichever that may be) that may no longer apply.
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Re: Diversity in Swiss Local Schools?

I know a local teacher who teaches German to primary students as part of the integration program. She once made a comment that American parents were most prone to complain about the program. It was an interesting remark.
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Luckily, the Swiss still have a good amount of common sense. Let's just see how long it will last before they succumb to the disease of the rest of Western Europe.

You're obviously not Swiss then
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Re: Diversity in Swiss Local Schools?

A bit off topic... what sort of sports and other extra curricular activities are offered by local schools (Primary school mainly)
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Old 27.09.2019, 15:29
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A bit off topic... what sort of sports and other extra curricular activities are offered by local schools (Primary school mainly)
From my experience, none at all.

There are lots of activities in the evening and after school but they're not organised by the schools, even if they are part of a Gemeinde's managed resourses - this includes music schools.

So, you'll find most of the activities you have anywhere else (+ some you won't such as Schwingen but you'll be paying out of your own pocket.

Additionally, for some of activities, you and your child don't pick the activity but the club/organisation will decide whether you are up to it and if they don't reach the standard, they'll need to find something else.
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A bit off topic... what sort of sports and other extra curricular activities are offered by local schools (Primary school mainly)
None.
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A bit off topic... what sort of sports and other extra curricular activities are offered by local schools (Primary school mainly)
Depends on the school.

My son does touch-typing, basketball, school band and theatre group as extra curricula activities, mostly at lunch time but school band is after school has finished.

All run by the school so they don't cost extra.

Outside of school there are all sorts of things to do but they usually cost a fee plus there might be a waiting list for the popular ones. We've managed to get into any that he's particularly wanted to go to.

Often clubs offer a "schnuppertag" which is a taster session one-off open day event.
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Re: Diversity in Swiss Local Schools?

I think this depends on the canton and the school. Our school offers a strings class (violin, cello,..), swimming, woodworking, board games/chess, fit &fun ( for the little ones), recorder as well as theatre, movie making in the upper grades.
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I think this depends on the canton and the school. Our school offers a strings class (violin, cello,..), swimming, woodworking, board games/chess, fit &fun ( for the little ones), recorder as well as theatre, movie making in the upper grades.
I guess it depends on the canton.

My kids have done all those things but always with external organisations.
I think it matters because for example, with musical instruments, unless you organise this yourself, they'll miss out but by not providing, at least, descant recorder lessons in school to all pupils means that a child may miss their vocation in life and/or never get the chance to play an instrument.

Sure, it should be up to the parents but some parents just won't push this.
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I guess it depends on the canton.

My kids have done all those things but always with external organisations.
I think it matters because for example, with musical instruments, unless you organise this yourself, they'll miss out but by not providing, at least, descant recorder lessons in school to all pupils means that a child may miss their vocation in life and/or never get the chance to play an instrument.

Sure, it should be up to the parents but some parents just won't push this.
If you want to take any of the activities in school you have to put yourself forward for it, same as if you were joining an external club. At least in our school it's like that. If you don't sign up, you don't do it.
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Re: Diversity in Swiss Local Schools?

We have all organized by external organisations, costs a lot but quality is quite high. Schools focus on teaching and curricula. I am glad that it is separated, almost all kids I know prefer meeting other, new friends for extracurriculars. The logistics are also easier considering the field trips/concerts/shows/matches.
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We have all organized by external organisations, costs a lot but quality is quite high. Schools focus on teaching and curricula. I am glad that it is separated, almost all kids I know prefer meeting other, new friends for extracurriculars. The logistics are also easier considering the field trips/concerts/shows/matches.
If the kids you know only have access to external clubs how can you be sure they prefer that as opposed to having an option to do an activity at lunchtime local to them or straight after school?

Sure have external activities but if you want to be with your school pals learning how to play table tennis, Iím sure thatís also fine.

You canít say people prefer one thing or the other if there is no other option available
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Re: Diversity in Swiss Local Schools?

Thank you for the response... I mean sports and activities offered by the school that parents are not expected to pay extra for it.
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Thank you for the response... I mean sports and activities offered by the school that parents are not expected to pay extra for it.
It doesnít really exist because those leading and organizing the extra-curricular activities are usually members of clubs who sponsor the activity. These ďvolunteersĒ are compensated through a very small salary while additional costs are also covered by the membership fee.
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