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17.10.2019, 11:09
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, please Treverus, if you can please do clarify this one.
The funny thing is I was accepted to intermediate this conversation even though I'm neither an (official) interpreter, nor a translator. | | | | | Haha, proof that it has nothing to go with legality.
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17.10.2019, 11:11
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | Nah, this is been the case since EF exists. I know we bash them quite a bit but just a quick thanks to the mods! ...who normally have to deal with that crap without anyone else seeing it. | | | | | I tend to see judge others by my own moral standards and am shocked every time when I encounter others' lack of morals.
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17.10.2019, 11:16
| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, please Treverus, if you can please do clarify this one.
I translated/interpreted for someone from German to English because I was this person's only hope, she couldn't find anyone else on a short notice and besides I've done it for free, she was a friend of a friend (non-EU, btw. The one year rule is the same for all as far as I remember). The funny thing is I was accepted to intermediate this conversation even though I'm neither an (official) interpreter, nor a translator.
Btw, I mean at RAV.... | | | | | I understood it that the RAV advisor could be unwilling to speak English directly when discussing the unemployment situation, rules, regs, etc., because something may be either lost in translation or misunderstood which might then come back to bite the RAV advisor.
If you are the translator, independent from the RAV then the onus is on you rather than the RAV advisor, to translate correctly.
The RAV has some of its literature in English but it has most likely been scrutinised for correctness. Off the cuff interviews in English are different.
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17.10.2019, 11:20
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: |  | | | Can anyone else hear a kettle?  | | | | | I find posts like these hilarious. You are obviously playing to your audience of chums who tend to side with you. Most people would fail to understand what you mean by these references but you flatter yourself thinking your opinion is so important and you are so witty and intelligent.
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17.10.2019, 11:21
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | I think being a female it's actually an advantage when dealing with the police (I might be wrong though). For minor traffic offences they seem a bit more indulgent, for other situations - thanks goodness I didn't have to deal with them.
As for the rest of all those "microaggressions" - yes, I tend to agree with you. It does happen more frequently to women. | | | | | dunno.
In my life I only got into two or three situations in which i was on the wrong side of the police and the last time I was attended to by a female police officer who was letting it all out on my OH and cutting me all the slack.
When I shouted at her to shut up she did.
I guess indulgencies and favouritism can work both ways.
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17.10.2019, 11:23
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, please Treverus, if you can please do clarify this one.
I translated/interpreted for someone from German to English because I was this person's only hope, she couldn't find anyone else on a short notice and besides I've done it for free, she was a friend of a friend (non-EU, btw. The one year rule is the same for all as far as I remember). The funny thing is I was accepted to intermediate this conversation even though I'm neither an (official) interpreter, nor a translator.
Btw, I mean at RAV.... | | | | |
Sure. Ive done the translator thing at the RAV for a friend once and I was basically given a legal disclaimer... if there are any misunderstandings on the side of the English speaker due to language reasons is it my fault and not the RAVs, so no damages can be claimed. Some of the employees are surely able to but not willing to take the extra risk for them to speak in a weak second or third language.
I am surprised they did not give you the same sort of speech at the beginning. Maybe its a Zurich thing. Would fit into the thread nicely...
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17.10.2019, 11:24
| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | I find posts like these hilarious. You are obviously playing to your audience of chums who tend to side with you. Most people would fail to understand what you mean by these references but you flatter yourself thinking your opinion is so important and you are so witty and intelligent. | | | | | Crikey this thread has a weird cul-de-sac all of a sudden.
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17.10.2019, 11:24
| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | dunno.
In my life I only got into two or three situations in which i was on the wrong side of the police and the last time I was attended to by a female police officer who was letting it all out on my OH and cutting me all the slack.
I guess indulgences can work both ways. | | | | | Could just be me and my mucky mind but that sounds like a plot line for a porn film... | The following 5 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
17.10.2019, 11:28
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, please Treverus, if you can please do clarify this one.
I translated/interpreted for someone from German to English because I was this person's only hope, she couldn't find anyone else on a short notice and besides
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Btw, I mean at RAV.... | | | | | There is a shift in liability if a person brings their own translator vs. if a public agent communicates in a non official language.
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17.10.2019, 11:28
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: |  | | | Could just be me and my mucky mind but that sounds like a plot line for a porn film...  | | | | | A lot of everyday life is porn script-worthy if you approach it right.
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17.10.2019, 11:31
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | There is a shift in liability if a person brings their own translator vs. if a public agent communicates in a non official language. | | | | | It makes sense but there are examples given here on this forum (albeit fewer than the opposite case) where the RAV advisor happily spoke English. Why would they do this if they were legally bound to speak the local lingo?
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17.10.2019, 11:32
| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | A lot of everyday life is porn script-worthy if you approach it right. | | | | | Well that thought's going to fester on the school run...
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17.10.2019, 11:35
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | WOW!
supression of marginalized groups. | | | | | I think I am in the marginalized group here: The group who is not from the UK and who does not want to agree with the forum bigheads. So little risk of anyone else being suppressed.
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17.10.2019, 11:58
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | |
I guess indulgencies and favouritism can work both ways.
| | | | | Haha, true. I'm well aware of that, sir.
But this is what makes humans....humans ? Otherwise we'd be just some sort of robots.
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17.10.2019, 12:01
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | It makes sense but there are examples given here on this forum (albeit fewer than the opposite case) where the RAV advisor happily spoke English. Why would they do this if they were legally bound to speak the local lingo? | | | | | They are not legally bound to speak the official language only. But they take a certain risk if they don't. Some are willing to take this risk or are not aware of it, some others are not willing to take this risk or stick to the local language simply 'because'.
A 112/117/118/144 operator on the other hand should be more understanding than to simply stick with the local language and to use THE. LOUD. AND. SLOW. AND. ANGRY. approach. Specially the last part should be a no go for a trained emergency line operator.
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17.10.2019, 12:03
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: |  | | | You have yourself a good one. | | | | | - Title of your sex tape. | Quote: | |  | | | Let them fire away. | | | | | - Title of your sex tape.
Sorry, too much Brooklyn 99 | The following 4 users would like to thank aSwissInTheUS for this useful post: | | 
17.10.2019, 12:10
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland
Crikey, all my juicy posts have been deleted. Fair play to the mod though for taking their time making sure it all still makes sense but I kinda of feel sad losing proof of my repulsive and creepy forum persona | 
17.10.2019, 12:13
| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | - Title of your sex tape.
- Title of your sex tape.
Sorry, too much Brooklyn 99  | | | | | Ha!
Mine would involve a lot of tea drinking.
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17.10.2019, 12:20
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| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: |  | | | Mine would involve a lot of tea drinking. | | | | | Death of passion.
Anyway, so glad the thread is back to normal. | 
17.10.2019, 12:21
| | Re: Polizei speaking English in Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | Death of passion.  | | | | | Indeed. I am passionate about tea, however.
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