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So this is my tank "room" which will soon be a small gym:



It's a bit bigger than it looks in these phone pics.
i have the same gauge!

question how will they get the tank out?
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Old 13.11.2019, 20:24
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question how will they get the tank out?
Ours was cut up after being emptied. Beware, that stinks like hell so try to do it when you can open all doors and windows!
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Old 13.11.2019, 20:50
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i have the same gauge!

question how will they get the tank out?
Well, as I said in my first post, I have to create a door:

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After they remove our now useless oil tank (the one we used for heating oil) which now occupies a 4.5mx2.5m room in the basement, I plan to slowly turn the place into a small gym (I'm thinking just stationary bike, maybe treadmill and mats), but it wil be big enough to also feature a TV, so that we can watch tele while we're at it.

First thing: put a freaking door. The room cannot be accessed now, but through a tiny 1x1 window. Then I'll put a small window, so at least there's some air exchange with the outside, and finally a carpet. The rest will be easy: electric sockets, a decent lamp and the TV stuff. Oh yeah, and the gym equipment, of course.
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Perhaps, but no way that it's 4m5 x 2m5!

Nice doorway. Are you a midget?
I know. That explains the "freaking" in my self-quote. This sort-of-window is ridiculous. They obviously put the tank in there before they closed it off. What were they thinking?

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8000 liters = 2m x 2m x 2m, not a huge amount of space.
I just measured it: it's 4m x 2.75m. The tank is 10'000, but there's plenty of space around the tank.
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Old 13.11.2019, 20:59
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I know. That explains the "freaking" in my self-quote. This sort-of-window is ridiculous. They obviously put the tank in there before they closed it off. What were they thinking?

the 'window' to my tank room is even smaller: about 40cmx40cm. i guess the must have put the tank in there during construction. god knows how anyone could do anything should the tank need replacing...
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Old 13.11.2019, 21:07
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Re: What would you do with a spare room?

Gotta admit to you guys, I've had a good laugh at the suggestion my German teacher might be a sexual fantasy

Have to admit though, he's the same age as me (58) and a bit of alright! Don't want you to think I spend half my time looking at handsome Swiss 50 somethings though, my handsome English 50 something still does it for me after 35 years
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Old 13.11.2019, 21:09
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Re: What would you do with a spare room?

Oiltanks must be kept secluded. They may not be used for anything else than storing the tank. The rooms may not have any openings apart from the door and that has to be selfclosing and absolutely watertight. There are strict rules re water law.
By having an opening on that upper level, the chance that oil spills out - water goes in - is a lot smaller. Also the temptation that people start storing things in there/usind it for additional things.
In case of a flood (the Swiss type, not a tsunami ) it's good if there's no real door there too.

edit: Don't forget to close your's properly after finishing taking photos and measuring it for future plans.
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Gotta admit to you guys, I've had a good laugh at the suggestion my German teacher might be a sexual fantasy

Have to admit though, he's the same age as me (58) and a bit of alright! Don't want you to think I spend half my time looking at handsome Swiss 50 somethings though, my handsome English 50 something still does it for me after 35 years

was a great laugh! sorry to have dragged it out...too easy to resist...
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Old 13.11.2019, 21:32
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Oiltanks must be kept secluded. They may not be used for anything else than storing the tank. The rooms may not have any openings apart from the door and that has to be selfclosing and absolutely watertight. There are strict rules re water law.
Excellent explanation, thank you. The window is certainly neither self-closing, nor watertight. I guess that applies only to openings at floor-level?

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Don't forget to close your's properly after finishing taking photos and measuring it for future plans.
Yeap. It's closed.
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Old 13.11.2019, 21:53
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Excellent explanation, thank you. The window is certainly neither self-closing, nor watertight. I guess that applies only to openings at floor-level?
Yeap. It's closed.
The laws have changed over the years. Your's is still often seen. When I was a child, our's was in a normal cellar room which we could frequent easily and - if I remember correctly - used for all kinds of stuff

Luckily you don't need to update anymore. Lets us know how they got that thing out though! Pictures
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The garden is my spare room in the summer/late spring/early autumn and I miss it like crazy in the winter. As a result, November is my worst month.

I'd love to have large potter-about-in green house.

The rabble can have the house.
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Old 13.11.2019, 22:55
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So this is my tank "room" which will soon be a small gym:



It's a bit bigger than it looks in these phone pics.
This exactly how I imagined a "man cave" that somebody mentioned earlier. Or a black hole.
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Old 14.11.2019, 08:03
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Or a black hole.
Hand-painted skull and all.

I will probably take matters in my own hands, rent a petrol hand saw with a diamond blade from Bauhaus, and just extend the "sides" of the window all the way down to the floor. Then pull the standing "wall" until it topples (it should fall very easily), and then chisel away the floor remains until it's nice and flush. It's probably hollow brick.

The contractor will probably dismantle pipes, conduits and cables, make sure the tank is completely empty (it already is), cut a large enough hole to "dry" it properly, and then start cutting it in smaller pieces that fit through my improvised door.

Or I can wait and let them do it all.
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Small office for managing inevitable official work (e.g. taxes, bills, writing, ...) that you have to do at home.
I do that at work.

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Re: What would you do with a spare room?

Gaming room.

This means a decent-sized circular (or octagonal) table (but not so big it's hard to reach the centre! Just big enough that eight people can fit around it comfortably), with enough decent chairs.

Shelves on the walls, sized to fit the "regular" sized games in pigeonholes - as well as a few "open" shelves to stack those odd-sized boxes. Strangely the square boxes tend to be very similar in dimensions, but the rectangular ones can be anything!

Kitchenette, including a bar fridge and drying rack for the glasses.

Adaptable lighting - bright lights for when we're playing board games that require a lot of reading, and softer lights for games that require less.

A couple of lounges to the sides, for breaks between games.
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Old 15.11.2019, 09:21
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That does look the same height as ours. I guess I'm just too tall.

I suppose, in our case, we could dig down to create a taller room. Anyway, that's long term plans for us.

Have fun with the conversion.
Don't dig down, push the ceiling up! Your legs fit fine, it's your head that's having the problem!
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So this is my tank "room" which will soon be a small gym:




It's a bit bigger than it looks in these phone pics.

Are you living at at 4 Privet Drive in Little Whinging, Surrey?
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Re: What would you do with a spare room?

Or this type of gaming room.

Custom-build your own gaming PC with latest graphical hardware, ultrawide & ultra high refresh-rate monitor, decent headphones... install Red Dead Redemption 2.

Gather enough supplies from the kitchen and lock the door.

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Old 15.11.2019, 10:26
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Re: What would you do with a spare room?

Re: Repurposing a tank room:

We were keen on buying a house where the owner had done this - turned a tank room into an office.

In the course of our due diligence it came out that the new room was essentially illegal as it in effect increased the living space beyond the max permitted m2.

As new owners we would have been required to dismantle the room and block it off so that there was no entrance from the living space. We could use it for storage, a wine cellar, or other 'non-living' space, access from outside. But anything that smacked of 'living' usage was a no-go.

Now this is a big ol' YMMV. The house was in a holiday zone, so rules on m2 might be stricter than elsewhere. Also, I am non-EU, which meant I needed a permit to be able to buy a holiday home in the first place, so was under more scrutiny than a CH/EU buyer would be.

I would think one could easily argue that a gym is not living space, but nonetheless this is something to think about. One issue in this case defining living vs non living space seemed to be whether the space had installed heat, or not.

And of course, some Gemeinden would not even care, so it would be a non-issue. Again, YMMV - as it always does.
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When one lives in an enormous house in the country, sometimes it can be difficult to fill all the rooms.
Actually not difficult at all, somehow we have managed to use every room in the house

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If you could have a special room, fitted out for your unique needs and pleasures, what would you have?
Having extra space here is really almost a luxury. If you want this you have to compromise, as we did. So each of us has more than one room fitted out the way we want. Every room in our house has daylight, which is really nice. Of course the more space you have the more there is to clean.
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Our spare room is the storage room for all the artwork that is not currently on display in the rest of the apartment.

Tom

P.S. This is what happens when you inherit a villa full of artwork.
A villa full of Hello Kitty! Fantastic!

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I’d love a mud room - a room that the kids would use to enter the house where they could leave all their shoes, coats, school bags, sports equipment... And their friends as well!
Leave the friends in the mud room too - great idea!

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Oiltanks must be kept secluded. They may not be used for anything else than storing the tank...
I think this bit certainly applies:

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The laws have changed over the years...
The oil tank in OH's very old family home is not secluded. It's as you described from your childhood above - a cellar that is easily accessed and where they store wine and have a washing machine.
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