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The authorities? Really? I thought it was the authorities who are concerned about the cost of public health. But according to you, they're actually making a profit from it.
That does sound like the usual modus operandi of politicians.
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Zopiclone is a sedative with known addictive properties. Did you order the same number of tablets and strength (mg) that your doctor prescribed?

Since it is often prescribed for short term use - a week or two, 30 tablets may be considered “a lot” by some people.
Yes I did ordered the same dose .. no deviation. i feel like stupid now to save few bucks. unfortunate situation
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Take the prescription with you, explain your motives, be honest. They will just talk to you and let you off with a fine of about 250 CHF (could be more or less) for the offense and to cover the costs of destroying the drugs. There will be no resulting criminal record. Do not repeat the offense.
Thank you so much .. since office closed all these day i am going tomorrow to explain but strange is they given some date which is in FEB meaning the time i got letter its almost 2 months to appear in front of them.

I will admit and pay the fine and never repeat in my life.

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As usual your post makes no sense. What was the point of your post "hoping he is ok because he hasn't posted in 3 days" then?
Apologies - i am out of town due to holidays.

All,
Thanks to everyone who provided their inputs.

Its not that i am sick person and many Swiss people also take same medicine due to various state of the person health and work related problems.

I was just asking for help if any one come across such scenario and how to get out of the same.

My biggest worry is not what i orders which has been seized by customs because i have prescription plus small quantity but if they sent something else which is not in my prescription list where i dont have any control.
these days anyone can order in any one else name and how to justify that in station.

Hope i got my question right now.

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Old 02.01.2020, 23:08
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The authorities? Really? I thought it was the authorities who are concerned about the cost of public health. But according to you, they're actually making a profit from it.
I assume you are joking?

These are the same authorities who forbid Swiss Krankenkasse to reimburse the cost of prescriptions fulfilled in neighboring countries.

My specialist here recommends a medicine not reimbursed by Swiss Krankenkasse that costs over 250 CHF here for a month supply and only 41 euro (before tax refund) over the border in Germany.
Guess what I do?
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The authorities (and pharmacists) are desperate to keep the price of medicines high so they can make insane profits at our expense.
So with this great insight, then how do explain the fact that doctor's practices are closing down when doctors reach retirement age as no young doctors want to the them over - over the past 10 years 3 doctor's practices closed down on my street, it is no longer possible to register with a doctor and the hospital has had to open an out patient clinic especially for people who can't get resisted with a practice????

I know the answer, the question is do you actually know and have a factual basis for your opinion?????????
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Old 03.01.2020, 09:53
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So with this great insight, then how do explain the fact that doctor's practices are closing down when doctors reach retirement age as no young doctors want to the them over - over the past 10 years 3 doctor's practices closed down on my street, it is no longer possible to register with a doctor and the hospital has had to open an out patient clinic especially for people who can't get resisted with a practice????
Sorry but I don't see the connection between what you have written and the price that pharmacies charge to customers for medicines.
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So with this great insight, then how do explain the fact that doctor's practices are closing down when doctors reach retirement age as no young doctors want to the them over - over the past 10 years 3 doctor's practices closed down on my street, it is no longer possible to register with a doctor and the hospital has had to open an out patient clinic especially for people who can't get resisted with a practice????

I know the answer, the question is do you actually know and have a factual basis for your opinion?????????
How long is your street??
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Probably stretches from Bern to Zurich
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Old 03.01.2020, 11:33
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Probably stretches from Bern to Zurich
Bern has been the first Kanton to be hit because it has more doctors reaching retirement age... but this decade it will start to bit else where as well.

In a nutshell, the rules allowing doctors to dispense drugs where changed to prevent chemists from closing down, only problem is that without the flexible dispensing rules it's better to be a doctor at a hospital than a partner in a practice.
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In a nutshell, the rules allowing doctors to dispense drugs where changed to prevent chemists from closing down, only problem is that without the flexible dispensing rules it's better to be a doctor at a hospital than a partner in a practice.
Doctors were never allowed to dispense drugs (unless free of charge) around here, it's cantonal dependent.

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Doctors were never allowed to dispense drugs (unless free of charge) around here, it's cantonal dependent.

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Nor here.
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Nor here.
It's allowed in ZH, even so I always asked for a prescription & collected from France, Germany or the UK
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Thank you so much .. since office closed all these day i am going tomorrow to explain but strange is they given some date which is in FEB meaning the time i got letter its almost 2 months to appear in front of them.
February? That's mad.

Would you consider consulting with Swissmedic in the interim to get their take on the situation? Perhaps share the order you placed with them & see if you get a response? If it's favorable you can bring it along when you meet the Police in Feb.
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Bern has been the first Kanton to be hit because it has more doctors reaching retirement age... but this decade it will start to bit else where as well.

In a nutshell, the rules allowing doctors to dispense drugs where changed to prevent chemists from closing down, only problem is that without the flexible dispensing rules it's better to be a doctor at a hospital than a partner in a practice.
Medication dispensing aside, young doctors see they can make far more cash as a specialist than as a GP. GPs often run their own practices with their own staff and overhead costs. It cuts into the bottom line. Joining a large hospital/clinic means none of the admin headache while still making tons of money.

Also, if one judges by the surgeons I had last summer, being a specialist in a hospital allows the doctor to see more interesting/exciting injuries, surgeries, etc. and that makes the job more enjoyable. GPs deal with a lot of the same stuff over and over.

I think these factors are true in the US as well as CH, possibly in other countries too.

Back to OP - I think Horatio's idea is a good place to start.
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Re: Summon from polizie [online drug import]

Thanks i asked for early interview which happened today. they did not even bother to check whether its prescribed or not. totally it took 1 hrs giving my background, income , dependent on my income and debuts etc.

issue is not with Zopiclone what i ordered, it seems they send 10 - 0.5 mg alprazolem tablets as freebie which i never ordered.

pls take note - never order from online pharmacy outside swiss. we dont no what they are sending and not in our control.

so all in all i will end up with hectic fine for 0.5 mg alprazolam which i never received nor used in my life.
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Old 23.01.2020, 22:23
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Thanks i asked for early interview which happened today. they did not even bother to check whether its prescribed or not. totally it took 1 hrs giving my background, income , dependent on my income and debuts etc.

issue is not with Zopiclone what i ordered, it seems they send 10 - 0.5 mg alprazolem tablets as freebie which i never ordered.

pls take note - never order from online pharmacy outside swiss. we dont no what they are sending and not in our control.

so all in all i will end up with hectic fine for 0.5 mg alprazolam which i never received nor used in my life.
That's a real PITA.Report that back to the supplier too, if you feel they're the serious type and not some Chinese/Nigerian origin. They might stop the freebies in future (hope dies last).

Thanks for reporting back here.
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That's a real PITA.Report that back to the supplier too, if you feel they're the serious type and not some Chinese/Nigerian origin. They might stop the freebies in future (hope dies last).

Thanks for reporting back here.
thanks ... looks like its complex chain .. it came from budapest while i ordered from India. Interviewer showed me the screen print of package which shows clearly Hungary stamp.

I appeal to everyone - dont fall in such kind of trap. its very difficult to convince local authorities. for ex - i can place order for any one easily given its very easy to get address but they end up with same situation like me.

Lesson learnt.
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Issue is not with Zopiclone what i ordered, it seems they send 10 - 0.5 mg alprazolem tablets as freebie which i never ordered.
Freebie Xanax? I think you've been in contact with a pusher, not a pharmacy.

Did they say how much the fine was? And will you have a criminal record as a result? I'd invest a few hundred chf getting some proper legal advice if that's the case. I'm not a lawyer, but you didn't order them, you didn't ask for them, you're not responsible, so no crime committed by you.
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Thanks i asked for early interview which happened today. they did not even bother to check whether its prescribed or not. totally it took 1 hrs giving my background, income , dependent on my income and debuts etc.

issue is not with Zopiclone what i ordered, it seems they send 10 - 0.5 mg alprazolem tablets as freebie which i never ordered.

pls take note - never order from online pharmacy outside swiss. we dont no what they are sending and not in our control.

so all in all i will end up with hectic fine for 0.5 mg alprazolam which i never received nor used in my life.
If you did not order it I would appeal.

Unfortunately you spoke to the Police & they were able to make their case against you which is their job.
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they were able to make their case against you which is their job.
If you live in some hellish totalitarian state maybe.

Otherwise it is their job to neutrally collect evidence and information. A prosecutor would then make a case against you.
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