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Re: Oh That Schwiizer Dutsch! (Or What did you say?)

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It's not quite the same, somehow. Just like in English, where you could say Hello Everybody, it makes sense but IME is not used in quite the same casual way. Not so common (in both senses of the word), not so normal, not so immediately ease-setting.
Well in Yorkshire we keep it simple. "Ayeup!" can be used for hello to one person, or Hello to a whole group of people. For example when entering Elland Road Football stadium full with 35,000 fans, before taking your seat you'll look around, give a nod and an Ayeup! Everyone who heard you will nod back and give an Ayeup! back.
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Old 20.01.2020, 15:23
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Re: Oh That Schwiizer Dutsch! (Or What did you say?)

Well, the hoi zäme (which works from two people up) and is used for friends and mates (the Du-Form) can be avoided by using "mitenand", which works for all situations, formal and Du-Form, from two people up:

Hoi mitenand, grüezi mitenand, guete morge mitenand, en Guete mitenand, adie mitenand, schöne Aabig mitenand ....

wish I could hear you guys read those out loud
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wish I could hear you guys read those out loud
Me too....

(as for myself I already know I "overdo it", whatever that means...)
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Re: Oh That Schwiizer Dutsch! (Or What did you say?)

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Well in Yorkshire we keep it simple. "Ayeup!" can be used for hello to one person, or Hello to a whole group of people. For example when entering Elland Road Football stadium full with 35,000 fans, before taking your seat you'll look around, give a nod and an Ayeup! Everyone who heard you will nod back and give an Ayeup! back.
And in North Derbyshire an all-encompassing head nod and "All right then?" Or the Aye Up.
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When my youngest son and I ran into an acquaintance who greeted us with a friendly “hoi zäma” my son turned to me and whispered: “Mom, who’s Zäma?”
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When my youngest son and I ran into an acquaintance who greeted us with a friendly “hoi zäma” my son turned to me and whispered: “Mom, who’s Zäma?”
Reminds me my little brother who thought that all German dogs are called Achtung.
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Say this to my French colleague and her British husband who, after 5 years spent in the Swiss-German part of the country, could not wait to move to the French-speaking part. Reasons given for their unhappiness over there:


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I meant purely on a language level . In Bern the French speakers come over from the neighbouring cantons and speak French wherever they go. People in shops, restauraunts reply always in French, most of the time quite fluently. Now go to Lausanne and speak German to a waiter, see how far you get.
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Old 21.01.2020, 19:59
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I meant purely on a language level . In Bern the French speakers come over from the neighbouring cantons and speak French wherever they go. People in shops, restauraunts reply always in French, most of the time quite fluently. Now go to Lausanne and speak German to a waiter, see how far you get.
That hasn’t been my experience in Bern. I have hardly ever encountered anyone there who speaks even passable French, most of them will fairly happily switch to English when confronted by my horrible German.
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That hasn’t been my experience in Bern. I have hardly ever encountered anyone there who speaks even passable French, most of them will fairly happily switch to English when confronted by my horrible German.
You must have just had bad luck then. My wife and almost everyone I know here speaks it fluently and almost everytime I'm in the tram there's at least 2 groups of french speakers. Same experience at work, everyone but me was fluent or at least able to carry a conversation in French.
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You must have just had bad luck then. My wife and almost everyone I know here speaks it fluently and almost everytime I'm in the tram there's at least 2 groups of french speakers. Same experience at work, everyone but me was fluent or at least able to carry a conversation in French.
I must have had bad luck an awful lot of times then in both shops and restaurants. The Salt stores are the worst, most of the staff there only spoke German.
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The Salt stores are the worst, most of the staff there only spoke German.
That I can easily imagine.
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Well in Yorkshire we keep it simple. "Ayeup!" can be used for hello to one person, or Hello to a whole group of people. For example when entering Elland Road Football stadium full with 35,000 fans, before taking your seat you'll look around, give a nod and an Ayeup! Everyone who heard you will nod back and give an Ayeup! back.
And in Australia its

G'day. How r yus'
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Now go to Lausanne and speak German to a waiter, see how far you get.
Something similar to speaking French in Zürich.

In Lausanne many of the workers are frontaliers.
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Old 22.01.2020, 19:11
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Something similar to speaking French in Zürich.

In Lausanne many of the workers are frontaliers.
Yet that's not quite the same thing. Lausanne is only an hour away from the rostigraben, hence the reason I compared it to Bern. A fair comparison for Zürich would be Geneva.
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Old 22.01.2020, 19:16
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Re: Oh That Schwiizer Dutsch! (Or What did you say?)

People I know in German part of Switzerland speak French very well. I cannot say the same about Romands speaking German. There might be historically embedded unwillingness, or the way it was introduced here, who knows. But the French level of my friends in German CH is impressive. Maybe French is just so...likeable.
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