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Do you think itís patients themselves driving this....staying out of the hospital, or referring physicians, or something else?
All of the above from what we can see. When presented with a new, unknown virus that seems to demonstrate a concerning combination of resilience, transmissibility and capability to exacerbate other underlying medical conditions people are understandably keen to avoid exposure to it. Physicians are equally loath to try and ďforceĒ people to get their regular check ups in such circumstances and so diagnoses for other diseases are delayed on both sides.

Cancer, autoimmune and neurological conditions havenít gone on holiday simply due to COVID. 2021 is going to be a bit of bastard for many, just for different reasons than they might have expected.
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SBB up to their old tricks ... trains still crowded despite home office mandate:

https://www.20min.ch/story/darum-ist...g-482143864616
I concur, the trains are slammed!

To be honest it is a bit hard sometimes to process the number of stressed out posts from those on home-office. Slammed trains, full schools, lots of commotion. Life goes on but I don't know how long we can keep this pace in a stressful environment.

Wooo.. Did I just post a reply number 20 002? Is it a good sign?
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I concur, the trains are slammed!

To be honest it is a bit hard sometimes to process the number of stressed out posts from those on home-office. Slammed trains, full schools, lots of commotion. Life goes on but I don't know how long we can keep this pace in a stressful environment.

Wooo.. Did I just post a reply number 20 002? Is it a good sign?
And the time is 20:02 this got to be a sign!
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Old 25.01.2021, 20:30
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And the time is 20:02 this got to be a sign!
Woooo..It made me sneeze

CZ has knocked down the hospitalizations, 5600 covid patients in hospitals and Covidariums. Still around 4500 new cases daily but it goes up and down. Massive amounts of volunteers still at work, tracking and tracing, working as nurse aids, in emergency logistics and keeping the most vulnerable in isolation. I haven't seen my family for a year, they are courageous. My grad ceremonies cancelled for good, looks like.
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...SBB says it has only canceled additional wagons on selected routes. Wagons were missing mainly because of the heavy snowfall in mid-January.
SBB is full of baloney. The last time I took a train the weather was clear and dry, and yet during rush hour they had reduced the number of carriages to half. It was absolutely packed, with people having to stand in the aisles and entryways. It would have been busy but more reasonable with the normal number of carriages.
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P.S. How nice this page is number 1'000, the post is number 20'000, and the thread is one year old!
The page number depends on your settings. Itís page 500 for me.
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These lines may be of interest, as appearing in www.mercola.com

"Remember, you need vitamin D for a wide variety of functions in your body in addition to optimizing your immune response. Although Ivermectin is a relatively safe drug, it is still an unnatural synthetic chemical that can have side effects. Vitamin D is something your body absolutely requires for optimal health, which is why I would encourage you to focus on vitamin D first."

"Getting back to ivermectin, Trial Site News reported2 that “Ten months into its battle with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, India is on track to become an unexpected warrior in the fight against this global pandemic. Although the densely-populated nation has four times the population of the U.S., India has less than half the U.S. COVID deaths.”
You are ignoring the fact that the average life expectancy in India is 10 years lower than in the US, the average age in India is 26. Of course, Indian deaths are lower while they have relatively far fewer people of the highest risk ages.
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Exactly, the very important number is the prevalence of Covid in the tested group. If people with symptoms are tested, then the prevalence would be higher than in case of testing any person randomly.

I don't think the tests in Switzerland are conducted only on people with symptoms though. To name just a few groups which are routinely tested without symptoms -- doctors, nurses, old age home workers, travelers, family members of positive cases, contacts of positive cases. There are a lot of people without symptoms being tested. The Covid prevalence in these groups is very low. We might have a big number of false positives!

And if we imagine for a moment that all Covid is gone from Switzerland. In this case we still will have thousands of positive tests if we keep testing at the same rate. Suppose that the test sensitivity at 95%. This means that for 50K of tests we will get around 5% (2500 cases) positives, all of them false. The point is -- we will never go to zero cases by applying the current testing.

P.S. How nice this page is number 1'000, the post is number 20'000, and the thread is one year old!
Oh yeah, I just noticed this.

I read today that Moderna works apparently against the UK and SA strains, too.
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Do you think itís patients themselves driving this....staying out of the hospital, or referring physicians, or something else?
Only one data point, but:

Iíve been waiting almost a year for a biopsy.

Surgery has been cancelled twice now, first in Feb 2020 due to the first wave shutdown. Tried to reschedule after the lockdown but due to backlogs and bureaucratic ... confusion... it took until October to get on the hospital schedule again. And then came the second wave, surgery was cancelled again.

I finally in December convinced the GP to refer me to another clinic, one that is still doing surgeries. First available appointment for a consultation is in February.

So thatís a year lost.

Getting through the gate keepers has been the most difficult part. My problem is that the biopsy is needed for diagnosis, but without a concrete diagnosis I am not a priority and so the biopsy keeps getting cancelled. Kind of a Teufelskreis.

I know a few people in the same boat. Itís not fear or hesitation that keeps them away, rather limited access.
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Doesn't sound good for the UK and second dose.

Where does this leave Switzerland?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...neca-shortfall

OH was told by GP he would probably get Moderna vaccine- is that the reason?

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Doesn't sound good for the UK and second dose.

Where does this leave Switzerland?

amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/25/eu-threatens-to-block-covid-vaccine-exports-amid-astrazeneca-shortfall

OH was told by GP he would probably get Moderna vaccine- is that the reason?
Can you fix the link? It’s hard to comment without knowing what the article is actually about.

As for the vaccine, given that Switzerland ordered far more of the Moderna vaccine than of the other currently approved vaccine it will be the one most readily available for the moment so that’s probably why he’ll get that one.
Has he got a date now?

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No date yet- his 75th BD is on 16th March

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...neca-shortfall
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No date yet- his 75th BD is on 16th March

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...neca-shortfall
Note that the Astra Zeneca vaccine doesn't seem to be very effective for 65+ people: https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSL1N2K024E
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I am not sure how to interpret these numbers. The tests are not 100% accurate, so the more Covid prevalence drops, the more we will see a lot of false positive results from 55'000 tests. For example, if the test is 95% accurate (sensitive), and the disease prevalence is only 1%, then testing 55k people will give us over 3000 positives, and around 85% of these positives will be false.
We don't know exactly how accurate the tests are, but we might never get to small number of cases simply because we are testing a lot of people.
The number of false positives from the PCR test is absolutely minimal. We had a week last summer with about 20 positives out of about 10,000 tests (sorry, canít be bothered to look up the actual numbers again). This gives you the maximum false positive rate...practically nothing. The fast test is however less reliable. Both are more likely to give a false negative however.
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Only one data point, but:

I’ve been waiting almost a year for a biopsy.

Surgery has been cancelled twice now, first in Feb 2020 due to the first wave shutdown. Tried to reschedule after the lockdown but due to backlogs and bureaucratic ... confusion... it took until October to get on the hospital schedule again. And then came the second wave, surgery was cancelled again.

I finally in December convinced the GP to refer me to another clinic, one that is still doing surgeries. First available appointment for a consultation is in February.

So that’s a year lost.

Getting through the gate keepers has been the most difficult part. My problem is that the biopsy is needed for diagnosis, but without a concrete diagnosis I am not a priority and so the biopsy keeps getting cancelled. Kind of a Teufelskreis.

I know a few people in the same boat. It’s not fear or hesitation that keeps them away, rather limited access.
Wow, I find that worrying. Is this perhaps because you're bound, by the terms of your medical insurance, to only certain service providers? Do you have to be dealt with by that doctor... who needed to be convinced?

I'm not saying, for a moment, that you should or could have done anything differently, but your post made me wonder what might have happened if you had appealed, directly, to any hospital, especially any which you might find in the media saying that they're worried about the patients who are staying away through fear of Covid, for example:
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This issue is preoccupying a fair few folk here in the embarrassingly ivory twin towers in Basel. We’ve seen demand for testing for a lot of potentially life threatening illnesses and diseases slump while the COVID testing has obviously sky rocketed.

It’s extremely challenging in the current climate to highlight this to health authorities and government departments when everyone is so focused on the coronavirus. Not helped by the relative strength of our oncology portfolio as it comes across as self serving rather than the warning and very real concern that it is.
Such reports have made me wonder whether, paradoxically, this might be a time to get certain procedures fast-tracked.
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Wooo.. Did I just post a reply number 20 002? Is it a good sign?

So Corona going away in the year 20002?



Anyone knows the ratio of Vit D3 to K2 that one must be taking? I have a large stock of Vit D3 5000 IU/125mcg. I need to buy Vit K2 to take with it, and I am not sure what dosage I should be buying to go with my Vit D3 stock. I have looked at the various Vit D3 + Vit K2 combined capsules and the ratio varies really widely!

For example:

D3 125msg + K2 25mcg
vs
D3 125msg + K2 50mcg
vs
D3 125msg + K2 100mcg

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Weíve seen demand for testing for a lot of potentially life threatening illnesses and diseases slump while the COVID testing has obviously sky rocketed.
I had a tumour removed in December of 2019, and require monitoring for the condition created by tumour. In the first wave, initially some doctors were not seeing patients at all, or only if it was an emergency. Then things improved.

We moved just before the second wave, and now we are faced with the challenge of finding doctors who are willing to see new patients. Typical question the "gate keepers ask" - are you sick. With an ongoing medical condition that needs monitoring, I guess the answer is yes, sort of.

I had a bone scan a few weeks ago, and a mammogram. My advice to anyone who needs to be treated is do not put off medical tests. If, like me, you want to avoid hospitals where there are Covid patients, there are often alternate hospital and clinics.
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So Corona going away in the year 20002?



Anyone knows the ratio of Vit D3 to K2 that one must be taking? I have a large stock of Vit D3 5000 IU/125mcg. I need to buy Vit K2 to take with it, and I am not sure what dosage I should be buying to go with my Vit D3 stock. I have looked at the various Vit D3 + Vit K2 combined capsules and the ratio varies really widely!

For example:

D3 125msg + K2 25mcg
vs
D3 125msg + K2 50mcg
vs
D3 125msg + K2 100mcg
Was about to order similar. Quick K2 research with Google suggests for adults 70 mcg per day. No known risk of OD.
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Canton of Bern is saying they will vaccinate only half of who wants to be vaccinated by the end of the Summer...and I am wondering if that is even possible now that the AZ vaccine may prove to be far less effective than what was thought.

Read a story in the news about a Canadian millionaire who was caught taking a private jet to a remote community and lied about his origins - I wonder how many more of these stories will pop up?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjpx...n-first-nation

This glimmer of hope for 2021 the vaccines promised seems to be narrowing, how do you feel?
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Canton of Bern is saying they will vaccinate only half of who wants to be vaccinated by the end of the Summer...and I am wondering if that is even possible now that the AZ vaccine may prove to be far less effective than what was thought.

Read a story in the news about a Canadian millionaire who was caught taking a private jet to a remote community and lied about his origins - I wonder how many more of these stories will pop up?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjpx...n-first-nation

This glimmer of hope for 2021 the vaccines promised seems to be narrowing, how do you feel?
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