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...SBB says it has only canceled additional wagons on selected routes. Wagons were missing mainly because of the heavy snowfall in mid-January.
SBB is full of baloney. The last time I took a train the weather was clear and dry, and yet during rush hour they had reduced the number of carriages to half. It was absolutely packed, with people having to stand in the aisles and entryways. It would have been busy but more reasonable with the normal number of carriages.
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P.S. How nice this page is number 1'000, the post is number 20'000, and the thread is one year old!
The page number depends on your settings. Itís page 500 for me.
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Old 25.01.2021, 21:38
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These lines may be of interest, as appearing in www.mercola.com

"Remember, you need vitamin D for a wide variety of functions in your body in addition to optimizing your immune response. Although Ivermectin is a relatively safe drug, it is still an unnatural synthetic chemical that can have side effects. Vitamin D is something your body absolutely requires for optimal health, which is why I would encourage you to focus on vitamin D first."

"Getting back to ivermectin, Trial Site News reported2 that “Ten months into its battle with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, India is on track to become an unexpected warrior in the fight against this global pandemic. Although the densely-populated nation has four times the population of the U.S., India has less than half the U.S. COVID deaths.”
You are ignoring the fact that the average life expectancy in India is 10 years lower than in the US, the average age in India is 26. Of course, Indian deaths are lower while they have relatively far fewer people of the highest risk ages.
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Old 25.01.2021, 21:39
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Exactly, the very important number is the prevalence of Covid in the tested group. If people with symptoms are tested, then the prevalence would be higher than in case of testing any person randomly.

I don't think the tests in Switzerland are conducted only on people with symptoms though. To name just a few groups which are routinely tested without symptoms -- doctors, nurses, old age home workers, travelers, family members of positive cases, contacts of positive cases. There are a lot of people without symptoms being tested. The Covid prevalence in these groups is very low. We might have a big number of false positives!

And if we imagine for a moment that all Covid is gone from Switzerland. In this case we still will have thousands of positive tests if we keep testing at the same rate. Suppose that the test sensitivity at 95%. This means that for 50K of tests we will get around 5% (2500 cases) positives, all of them false. The point is -- we will never go to zero cases by applying the current testing.

P.S. How nice this page is number 1'000, the post is number 20'000, and the thread is one year old!
Oh yeah, I just noticed this.

I read today that Moderna works apparently against the UK and SA strains, too.
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Do you think itís patients themselves driving this....staying out of the hospital, or referring physicians, or something else?
Only one data point, but:

Iíve been waiting almost a year for a biopsy.

Surgery has been cancelled twice now, first in Feb 2020 due to the first wave shutdown. Tried to reschedule after the lockdown but due to backlogs and bureaucratic ... confusion... it took until October to get on the hospital schedule again. And then came the second wave, surgery was cancelled again.

I finally in December convinced the GP to refer me to another clinic, one that is still doing surgeries. First available appointment for a consultation is in February.

So thatís a year lost.

Getting through the gate keepers has been the most difficult part. My problem is that the biopsy is needed for diagnosis, but without a concrete diagnosis I am not a priority and so the biopsy keeps getting cancelled. Kind of a Teufelskreis.

I know a few people in the same boat. Itís not fear or hesitation that keeps them away, rather limited access.
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Old 25.01.2021, 22:46
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Doesn't sound good for the UK and second dose.

Where does this leave Switzerland?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...neca-shortfall

OH was told by GP he would probably get Moderna vaccine- is that the reason?

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Old 25.01.2021, 23:09
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Doesn't sound good for the UK and second dose.

Where does this leave Switzerland?

amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/25/eu-threatens-to-block-covid-vaccine-exports-amid-astrazeneca-shortfall

OH was told by GP he would probably get Moderna vaccine- is that the reason?
Can you fix the link? It’s hard to comment without knowing what the article is actually about.

As for the vaccine, given that Switzerland ordered far more of the Moderna vaccine than of the other currently approved vaccine it will be the one most readily available for the moment so that’s probably why he’ll get that one.
Has he got a date now?

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No date yet- his 75th BD is on 16th March

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...neca-shortfall
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No date yet- his 75th BD is on 16th March

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...neca-shortfall
Note that the Astra Zeneca vaccine doesn't seem to be very effective for 65+ people: https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSL1N2K024E
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I am not sure how to interpret these numbers. The tests are not 100% accurate, so the more Covid prevalence drops, the more we will see a lot of false positive results from 55'000 tests. For example, if the test is 95% accurate (sensitive), and the disease prevalence is only 1%, then testing 55k people will give us over 3000 positives, and around 85% of these positives will be false.
We don't know exactly how accurate the tests are, but we might never get to small number of cases simply because we are testing a lot of people.
The number of false positives from the PCR test is absolutely minimal. We had a week last summer with about 20 positives out of about 10,000 tests (sorry, canít be bothered to look up the actual numbers again). This gives you the maximum false positive rate...practically nothing. The fast test is however less reliable. Both are more likely to give a false negative however.
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Old 26.01.2021, 08:49
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Wooo.. Did I just post a reply number 20 002? Is it a good sign?

So Corona going away in the year 20002?



Anyone knows the ratio of Vit D3 to K2 that one must be taking? I have a large stock of Vit D3 5000 IU/125mcg. I need to buy Vit K2 to take with it, and I am not sure what dosage I should be buying to go with my Vit D3 stock. I have looked at the various Vit D3 + Vit K2 combined capsules and the ratio varies really widely!

For example:

D3 125msg + K2 25mcg
vs
D3 125msg + K2 50mcg
vs
D3 125msg + K2 100mcg

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Weíve seen demand for testing for a lot of potentially life threatening illnesses and diseases slump while the COVID testing has obviously sky rocketed.
I had a tumour removed in December of 2019, and require monitoring for the condition created by tumour. In the first wave, initially some doctors were not seeing patients at all, or only if it was an emergency. Then things improved.

We moved just before the second wave, and now we are faced with the challenge of finding doctors who are willing to see new patients. Typical question the "gate keepers ask" - are you sick. With an ongoing medical condition that needs monitoring, I guess the answer is yes, sort of.

I had a bone scan a few weeks ago, and a mammogram. My advice to anyone who needs to be treated is do not put off medical tests. If, like me, you want to avoid hospitals where there are Covid patients, there are often alternate hospital and clinics.
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Old 26.01.2021, 09:50
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So Corona going away in the year 20002?



Anyone knows the ratio of Vit D3 to K2 that one must be taking? I have a large stock of Vit D3 5000 IU/125mcg. I need to buy Vit K2 to take with it, and I am not sure what dosage I should be buying to go with my Vit D3 stock. I have looked at the various Vit D3 + Vit K2 combined capsules and the ratio varies really widely!

For example:

D3 125msg + K2 25mcg
vs
D3 125msg + K2 50mcg
vs
D3 125msg + K2 100mcg
Was about to order similar. Quick K2 research with Google suggests for adults 70 mcg per day. No known risk of OD.
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Canton of Bern is saying they will vaccinate only half of who wants to be vaccinated by the end of the Summer...and I am wondering if that is even possible now that the AZ vaccine may prove to be far less effective than what was thought.

Read a story in the news about a Canadian millionaire who was caught taking a private jet to a remote community and lied about his origins - I wonder how many more of these stories will pop up?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjpx...n-first-nation

This glimmer of hope for 2021 the vaccines promised seems to be narrowing, how do you feel?
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Canton of Bern is saying they will vaccinate only half of who wants to be vaccinated by the end of the Summer...and I am wondering if that is even possible now that the AZ vaccine may prove to be far less effective than what was thought.

Read a story in the news about a Canadian millionaire who was caught taking a private jet to a remote community and lied about his origins - I wonder how many more of these stories will pop up?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjpx...n-first-nation

This glimmer of hope for 2021 the vaccines promised seems to be narrowing, how do you feel?
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This glimmer of hope for 2021 the vaccines promised seems to be narrowing, how do you feel?
not surprised at all
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So Corona going away in the year 20002?



Anyone knows the ratio of Vit D3 to K2 that one must be taking? I have a large stock of Vit D3 5000 IU/125mcg. I need to buy Vit K2 to take with it, and I am not sure what dosage I should be buying to go with my Vit D3 stock. I have looked at the various Vit D3 + Vit K2 combined capsules and the ratio varies really widely!

For example:

D3 125msg + K2 25mcg
vs
D3 125msg + K2 50mcg
vs
D3 125msg + K2 100mcg
100mcg (of K2 MK7[1]) would be a good dose to start. There's some indication that at least 45mcg is needed to activate osteocalcin carboxylation. There are studies which show up to 400mcg daily is tolerable over the long term (one year).

I personally take 270 mcg (3 x 90mcg) per day with 5000 (7000 in winter) IU D3.

If you're taking 5000 IU daily, then take occasional breaks (say 1-2 days every 10 days and a week every couple of months) and get a test every year (you can get a simple finger-prick test from an online vendor).

[1] There's another version (MK4) which has a shorter serum half-life and is taken in larger doses (e.g. 1000mcg).
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I have to say I missed this at the time. Matt Hancock stood in the House of Commons and announced they were aware of a new virus coming from China, and that, following advice from their Chief Medical Officer Chris Witty- they were very well prepared

then came half term holidays and thousands travelled all over the world, totally oblivious- and even right up to right before Christmas, a few weeks ago, friends were going on holiday all over the EU and beyond, no test, and no instructions whatsoever at the airports, to isolate. No-one to welcome there at airport with info flyers and instructions, no electronic signage- NOTHING

The Matt Hancock announcement is in the middle.

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I have to say I missed this at the time. Matt Hancock stood in the House of Commons and announced they were aware of a new virus coming from China, and that, following advice from their Chief Medical Officer Chris Witty- they were very well prepared

then came half term holidays and thousands travelled all over the world, totally oblivious- and even right up to right before Christmas, friends were going on holiday all all the place, no test, and no instructions whatsoever at the airports, to isolate. No-one to welcome there at airport with info flyers and instructions, no electronic signage- NOTHING

The Matt Hancock announcement is in the middle.
I am intrigued how the UK could have had a test for a new & unknown virus.
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Old 26.01.2021, 13:39
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Only one data point, but:

I know a few people in the same boat. Itís not fear or hesitation that keeps them away, rather limited access.
Access is an issue. A family member requires blood work every six months to monitor medication levels and has been told, repeatedly, that the office isn't seeing patients that aren't actively ill. While I understand the prioritization, the DIY method of guess and adjust at home is risky.

What I really don't understand is why all physicians, pharmacists, etc. weren't prioritized in the first wave. Would help. methinks, by increasing access to medical care.
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