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I get the same and it really works ... I take the full bottle at once every 3 weeks and I feel a lot better starting the next day. Tastes awful, but it gives you a nice buzz since it is pretty high proof alcohol.

My doctor said to take the Vitamin D with a meal that contains fat as that helps absorb the vitamin better into your body...
Most important is Vit.K2 to get the best of D3 - did not the doctor mention this? I have reached 59 ng/ml in Vit.D level even without Doctors recommendations!

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"In today's newsletter, I'm going to show you the best ways to protect yourself if/when you get Covid, and how to most likely have a very MILD case instead of a severe case. Of course, you'll still want to talk to your doctor if you get the infection, and follow doctors orders, but all of the tips I'll show in today's email can actually help reduce severity and duration of a Covid infection, and are important for everybody to know.

After reading today's email, please share this valuable life-saving information with your friends and family by forwarding this email to them.

This is based on reading hundreds of articles, studies, etc since the beginning of this pandemic. And it's also based on my personal experience of having Covid myself in early October this year, and recovering super easy in only 3 days. In fact, my case was so mild, it was less severe than a common cold. Of course, that's partly because i'm only 44 years old, in great metabolic health, and followed ALL of the tips I'm about to present in this email. If you're over the age of 65 and in poor health, the chances of having a more severe case of Covid are still likely, but even in those cases, all of these tips could easily contribute to recovering faster and saving someone's life.

This is my own personal research spending hundreds of hours reading and listening to hundreds of hours of podcasts about this topic, and with this email, I'm simply trying to help people who might not know the best things to do if and WHEN you do get infected (because let's face it, at least 30-50% of the population are going to get it at some point (or already had it), so you might as well be armed with a few things that can help reduce the severity and recover quicker.

Most of the things that can reduce severity and duration of infection, can also reduce the risk of being infected in the first place by boosting your immune system strength, with your innate immune system being the first line of defense when you're exposed. I'll try to keep this somewhat short and not get too much in the weeds on overly detailed science... and as usual, I'm not a doctor, so this isn't a prescription... do with the information what you want. None of this can hurt...it can only help, so it's what I would recommend to my own family.

Here we go:

1. First and foremost, try to get your blood levels of vitamin D at least between 50-80 ng/ml. Most of the severe cases and deaths are people with blood vitamin D levels in the teens and 20s. Once you're over 60 or 70 ng/ml, there are very few severe cases, and almost no deaths at all. Sun exposure is the best source of vitamin D, but unless you're in the southern states like SoCal, AZ, TX, FL, Hawaii, etc this winter, you won't get enough vitamin D from sun exposure alone. Once you get north of about 35 degrees N latitude, the sun's rays are too weak from Nov thru Feb to produce any real vitamin D in your skin.

Supplement with at least 5000 IU of vitamin D3 all winter long as a general way to keep immune strength high this winter, but consider doing at least 10,000 to 30,000 IU a day at first signs of a Covid infection. Do NOT take more than 10,000 IU per day for LONG periods of time if you do not know your blood levels. You don't want to go over 100 ng/ml as you can start to reach a level that becomes more toxic above those levels. But 50 to 80 ng/ml blood levels appears to be the sweet spot in my opinion to maximize immune strength and proper functioning. Remember to always take vitamin K2 in combination with vitamin D3 to prevent calcification problems in soft tissues, and always take these 2 nutrients with fat-containing meals, not on an empty stomach.

Here's a more detailed article about vitamin D status and your immune system if you want to read more about this topic.

2. NAC supplementation (n-acetyl-cysteine) -- this helps your body produce more glutathione, the master antioxidant, and studies seem to show that NAC supplementation (or other ways of raising glutathione levels in your body) can lead to less severe cases of covid and quicker recovery. If you get infected, I'd take at least 1000 mg of NAC twice a day until you recover. You can also consider a glutathione IV if a clinic near you does those.

Here's an article about glutathione importance to so many aspects of your health if you want to read more about that. Note that NAC appears to be a better way to boost internal glutathione than taking an oral glutathione supplement since it's not well absorbed. Plus, NAC has other benefits such as thinning mucus, and lowering inflammation in lungs and bronchial tubes.

3. A combination of Quercetin and zinc appears to have a similar effect to hydroxychloroquine, but most likely without the side effect concerns of hydroxychloroquine. My understanding is that the quercetin has anti-viral properties in various ways, but it also acts like hydroxychloroquine and helps force zinc into your cells, which helps slow down viral replication, letting your immune system get ahead of the infection. I'd also take quercetin and zinc as a preventative measure too to help lower your risk of infection in the first place. Here's an article with more info about the anti-viral benefits of quercetin.

If you get infected, dosages for quercetin that should help slow the viral replication could be between 600-1200 mg per day...perhaps on the lower end as a preventative, and the higher end for an active infection. Zinc doses would be between 15-50 mg a day, and some doctors recommend higher doses at the beginning of an infection, such as 75mg a day.

4. Vitamin C is another nutrient that's probably worth taking high doses at least during the beginning phases of a known infection. Perhaps 1000 mg a day in the beginning, or if you can get a vitamin C iv at a clinic, it could be helpful. Although vitamin C doesn't necessarily seem to reduce the risk of infection, it does seem to have at least some evidence on lowering the duration and severity of viral infections, so it could help to recover faster and have a more mild case. It certainly can't hurt, but I don't think of vitamin C as nearly as important as vitamin D levels, NAC, and quercetin and zinc. Here's a more detailed article on vitamin C and your immune system if you want to read more.

5. Regular sauna use can be a great preventative measure, because it has a significant impact on your immune strength as well as cardiovascular and metabolic health. I'd absolutely recommend prioritizing daily sauna sessions if you can, especially at the first signs of an infection. Sauna use can also help raise your internal glutathione levels too. 20 minutes minimum in the sauna seems to be what the studies say is best. I do about 35 minutes a day in my infrared sauna in my basement. I'll send out a more detailed article coming soon on the powerful health benefits of regular sauna use...it's impressive! For now, here's one article to check out on sauna benefits.

6. There are some other anti-viral herbs that might be helpful too... I'm not gonna claim there's much research around these specifically for covid, but they also can't hurt to use at least temporarily at the early signs of an infection just to get more anti-viral substances in your body... these could be herbs or nutrients such as astragalus (boosts T cells while also having anti-viral properties), olive leaf, garlic, licorice root, lomatium, oregano, elderberry, calendula, and monolaurin (an anti-viral substance isolated from coconut oil)... Here's an article on 10 anti-viral herbs that show general anti-viral characterics against most viruses.

I could probably add a few more immune boosting tips, etc, but I think I covered the most important stuff for today. And don't forget that one of the BEST preventative measures for avoiding severe cases of covid is simply to be metabolically healthy, and that means losing weight if you need to, reducing inflammation, improving insulin sensitivity, and reversing conditions like type 2 diabetes and high blood pressure. Most of the data shows convincingly that between 94 to 99% of the deaths from covid are people with other health conditions such as obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.

Here's a page to read about how to reverse type 2 diabetes naturally.

And here's an article about fixing high blood pressure problems too.

Also, one little interesting tidbit I heard on a podcast from a doctor was that people with the highest levels of omega6 polyunsaturated fats in their bodies had the highest risk for ARDS, which is what is killing most covid patients... so by all means, AVOID polyunsaturated vegetable oils (corn oil, soybean oil, cottonseed, canola, deep fried foods, chips, etc) to lower the amount of omega6 fats in your cells. Vegetable oils are the #1 worst thing in our food supply (worse than even sugar in my opinion, and we know how bad sugar is,) and vegetable oils are one of the MAIN causes of degenerative disease which is making people more susceptible to severe covid.

Remember that most processed foods have vegetable oils added, so avoid them as much as you can. I personally like grass-fed RED meat as the main food that I eat, since it has very low levels of omega6 fats (2-3%) compared to chicken and pork, which are more around 20% omega6. Plus, with red meat, you get the added benefit of high levels of zinc, which we already talked about the benefits of zinc on fighting viruses. But fish and shellfish is also healthier than chicken and pork too in my opinion.

Ok, that's most of what I wanted to share today to help protect everyone if and when you get infected (or to reduce risks of infection)... Lastly, although I'm not a doctor, ALL of this information I've gotten from either MDs, PhDs, functional medicine docs, and other health experts that know a lot more than any information the mainstream media is publishing.

If you found today's article helpful (I certainly think this info can help SAVE LIVES), or at the very least, helpful for reducing severity of covid cases in a lot of people, then please FWD this email to all of your friends and family.

To your health,
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Nostalgia is kicking in heavily, chain emails.......on 2021. Thanks sir, I remembered when the internet was young. I should check my Excite mail inbox
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After reading today's email, please share this valuable life-saving information with your friends and family by forwarding this email to them.

If you found today's article helpful (I certainly think this info can help SAVE LIVES), or at the very least, helpful for reducing severity of covid cases in a lot of people, then please FWD this email to all of your friends and family.
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I'm so sorry that you've had to go through this :- --------
....... I have a friend who works in pharma and she says the next pandemic will be cancer - all the cases that went unnoticed during 2020 and now maybe 2021. I shudder at the thought :-(
I read a book recently which says Cancer is not a disease but a vitamin
deficiency! Delving into this I found that Vitamin B17 is found mostly in
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care as any overdose may be cyanide poising!!
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Great, just what we need; a pharmacist who believes in conspiracy theories and doesn't believe in vaccines.

"A US pharmacist has agreed to plead guilty to tampering with Covid vaccine vials because he believed the jabs could harm people, prosecutors say.

Steven Brandenburg, 46, is accused of removing from cold storage 57 vials with 570 doses of the Moderna vaccine in Grafton, Wisconsin, in December.

Without refrigeration, the vaccine becomes ineffective.

Mr Brandenburg could be jailed for 20 years on two charges of attempting to tamper with consumer products.

He also faces a $250,000 (£182,000) fine.

In a statement on Tuesday, the attorney's office in Wisconsin said Mr Brandenburg "signed a plea agreement acknowledging that he was guilty of attempting to render hundreds of doses of Covid-19 vaccine ineffective".

He was charged "with two counts of attempting to tamper with consumer products, with reckless disregard for the risk that another person will be placed in danger of death or bodily injury".

The pharmacist admitted that he "believed in various 'conspiracy theories'; subscribed to notions of "alternative history"; and was sceptical of vaccines in general and the Moderna vaccine specifically", the statement added.

Mr Brandenburg allegedly tampered with the vials on two successive night shifts at the pharmacy in late December. Each time, he left the vials out of the refrigerator for several hours before putting them back.

The attorney's office said 57 people had received the jabs from the vials before the tampering was uncovered.

"Pharmacists rank among some of the most trusted professionals," said FBI Special Agent in Charge Robert Hughes. "This individual used his special access to tamper with vials of the much needed Covid-19 vaccine."

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I have a friend who works in pharma and she says the next pandemic will be cancer(
Your "friend" clearly doesn't understand the meaning of the word "pandemic"/

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Most important is Vit.K2 to get the best of D3 - did not the doctor mention this? I have reached 59 ng/ml in Vit.D level even without Doctors recommendations!

I TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PASS ON A RELEVANT MATTER RELATING TO
COVID-19 THAT MY EF COLLEAUGES WILL BE INTERESTED IN (Provided
EF Moderators do not interfere, please!)

"In today's newsletter, I'm going to show you the best ways to protect yourself if/when you get Covid, and how to most likely have a very MILD case instead of a severe case. Of course, you'll still want to talk to your doctor if you get the infection, and follow doctors orders, but all of the tips I'll show in today's email can actually help reduce severity and duration of a Covid infection, and are important for everybody to know.

After reading today's email, please share this valuable life-saving information with your friends and family by forwarding this email to them.

This is based on reading hundreds of articles, studies, etc since the beginning of this pandemic. And it's also based on my personal experience of having Covid myself in early October this year, and recovering super easy in only 3 days. In fact, my case was so mild, it was less severe than a common cold. Of course, that's partly because i'm only 44 years old, in great metabolic health, and followed ALL of the tips I'm about to present in this email. If you're over the age of 65 and in poor health, the chances of having a more severe case of Covid are still likely, but even in those cases, all of these tips could easily contribute to recovering faster and saving someone's life.

This is my own personal research spending hundreds of hours reading and listening to hundreds of hours of podcasts about this topic, and with this email, I'm simply trying to help people who might not know the best things to do if and WHEN you do get infected (because let's face it, at least 30-50% of the population are going to get it at some point (or already had it), so you might as well be armed with a few things that can help reduce the severity and recover quicker.

Most of the things that can reduce severity and duration of infection, can also reduce the risk of being infected in the first place by boosting your immune system strength, with your innate immune system being the first line of defense when you're exposed. I'll try to keep this somewhat short and not get too much in the weeds on overly detailed science... and as usual, I'm not a doctor, so this isn't a prescription... do with the information what you want. None of this can hurt...it can only help, so it's what I would recommend to my own family.

Here we go:

1. First and foremost, try to get your blood levels of vitamin D at least between 50-80 ng/ml. Most of the severe cases and deaths are people with blood vitamin D levels in the teens and 20s. Once you're over 60 or 70 ng/ml, there are very few severe cases, and almost no deaths at all. Sun exposure is the best source of vitamin D, but unless you're in the southern states like SoCal, AZ, TX, FL, Hawaii, etc this winter, you won't get enough vitamin D from sun exposure alone. Once you get north of about 35 degrees N latitude, the sun's rays are too weak from Nov thru Feb to produce any real vitamin D in your skin.

Supplement with at least 5000 IU of vitamin D3 all winter long as a general way to keep immune strength high this winter, but consider doing at least 10,000 to 30,000 IU a day at first signs of a Covid infection. Do NOT take more than 10,000 IU per day for LONG periods of time if you do not know your blood levels. You don't want to go over 100 ng/ml as you can start to reach a level that becomes more toxic above those levels. But 50 to 80 ng/ml blood levels appears to be the sweet spot in my opinion to maximize immune strength and proper functioning. Remember to always take vitamin K2 in combination with vitamin D3 to prevent calcification problems in soft tissues, and always take these 2 nutrients with fat-containing meals, not on an empty stomach.

Here's a more detailed article about vitamin D status and your immune system if you want to read more about this topic.

2. NAC supplementation (n-acetyl-cysteine) -- this helps your body produce more glutathione, the master antioxidant, and studies seem to show that NAC supplementation (or other ways of raising glutathione levels in your body) can lead to less severe cases of covid and quicker recovery. If you get infected, I'd take at least 1000 mg of NAC twice a day until you recover. You can also consider a glutathione IV if a clinic near you does those.

Here's an article about glutathione importance to so many aspects of your health if you want to read more about that. Note that NAC appears to be a better way to boost internal glutathione than taking an oral glutathione supplement since it's not well absorbed. Plus, NAC has other benefits such as thinning mucus, and lowering inflammation in lungs and bronchial tubes.

3. A combination of Quercetin and zinc appears to have a similar effect to hydroxychloroquine, but most likely without the side effect concerns of hydroxychloroquine. My understanding is that the quercetin has anti-viral properties in various ways, but it also acts like hydroxychloroquine and helps force zinc into your cells, which helps slow down viral replication, letting your immune system get ahead of the infection. I'd also take quercetin and zinc as a preventative measure too to help lower your risk of infection in the first place. Here's an article with more info about the anti-viral benefits of quercetin.

If you get infected, dosages for quercetin that should help slow the viral replication could be between 600-1200 mg per day...perhaps on the lower end as a preventative, and the higher end for an active infection. Zinc doses would be between 15-50 mg a day, and some doctors recommend higher doses at the beginning of an infection, such as 75mg a day.

4. Vitamin C is another nutrient that's probably worth taking high doses at least during the beginning phases of a known infection. Perhaps 1000 mg a day in the beginning, or if you can get a vitamin C iv at a clinic, it could be helpful. Although vitamin C doesn't necessarily seem to reduce the risk of infection, it does seem to have at least some evidence on lowering the duration and severity of viral infections, so it could help to recover faster and have a more mild case. It certainly can't hurt, but I don't think of vitamin C as nearly as important as vitamin D levels, NAC, and quercetin and zinc. Here's a more detailed article on vitamin C and your immune system if you want to read more.

5. Regular sauna use can be a great preventative measure, because it has a significant impact on your immune strength as well as cardiovascular and metabolic health. I'd absolutely recommend prioritizing daily sauna sessions if you can, especially at the first signs of an infection. Sauna use can also help raise your internal glutathione levels too. 20 minutes minimum in the sauna seems to be what the studies say is best. I do about 35 minutes a day in my infrared sauna in my basement. I'll send out a more detailed article coming soon on the powerful health benefits of regular sauna use...it's impressive! For now, here's one article to check out on sauna benefits.

6. There are some other anti-viral herbs that might be helpful too... I'm not gonna claim there's much research around these specifically for covid, but they also can't hurt to use at least temporarily at the early signs of an infection just to get more anti-viral substances in your body... these could be herbs or nutrients such as astragalus (boosts T cells while also having anti-viral properties), olive leaf, garlic, licorice root, lomatium, oregano, elderberry, calendula, and monolaurin (an anti-viral substance isolated from coconut oil)... Here's an article on 10 anti-viral herbs that show general anti-viral characterics against most viruses.

I could probably add a few more immune boosting tips, etc, but I think I covered the most important stuff for today. And don't forget that one of the BEST preventative measures for avoiding severe cases of covid is simply to be metabolically healthy, and that means losing weight if you need to, reducing inflammation, improving insulin sensitivity, and reversing conditions like type 2 diabetes and high blood pressure. Most of the data shows convincingly that between 94 to 99% of the deaths from covid are people with other health conditions such as obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.

Here's a page to read about how to reverse type 2 diabetes naturally.

And here's an article about fixing high blood pressure problems too.

Also, one little interesting tidbit I heard on a podcast from a doctor was that people with the highest levels of omega6 polyunsaturated fats in their bodies had the highest risk for ARDS, which is what is killing most covid patients... so by all means, AVOID polyunsaturated vegetable oils (corn oil, soybean oil, cottonseed, canola, deep fried foods, chips, etc) to lower the amount of omega6 fats in your cells. Vegetable oils are the #1 worst thing in our food supply (worse than even sugar in my opinion, and we know how bad sugar is,) and vegetable oils are one of the MAIN causes of degenerative disease which is making people more susceptible to severe covid.

Remember that most processed foods have vegetable oils added, so avoid them as much as you can. I personally like grass-fed RED meat as the main food that I eat, since it has very low levels of omega6 fats (2-3%) compared to chicken and pork, which are more around 20% omega6. Plus, with red meat, you get the added benefit of high levels of zinc, which we already talked about the benefits of zinc on fighting viruses. But fish and shellfish is also healthier than chicken and pork too in my opinion.

Ok, that's most of what I wanted to share today to help protect everyone if and when you get infected (or to reduce risks of infection)... Lastly, although I'm not a doctor, ALL of this information I've gotten from either MDs, PhDs, functional medicine docs, and other health experts that know a lot more than any information the mainstream media is publishing.

If you found today's article helpful (I certainly think this info can help SAVE LIVES), or at the very least, helpful for reducing severity of covid cases in a lot of people, then please FWD this email to all of your friends and family.

To your health,
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This is very long but seems reasonable stuff - speakeron mentioned the same things.
I never imagined that the poor people living in Spain's Costa del Sol suffered from vitamin D deficiency. If simple mistakes are made, why keep reading if the lack of attention to detail is simply missing?
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Thanks for the warning.
"A combination of Quercetin and zinc appears to have a similar effect to hydroxychloroquine."

Hydroxychloroquine has been proven to be ineffective at treating COVID.
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Does anyone actually read those things?

I tried to read that one but gave up after the first paragraph.
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Does anyone actually read those things?

I tried to read that one but gave up after the first paragraph.
I printed it, highlighted it with a yellow marker, and now it is framed and hanging on my living room wall
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I tried to read that one but gave up after the first paragraph.
You don't have to read it, you only have to forward it to at least 10 of your email contacts otherwise covid19 will hurt you you earn extra internet points if you forward it to all your company contacts, and people start using the reply all button making the late 1990s email servers collapse
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Re: Coronavirus

For background to the UK situation, a time line of the early days (put together by Led by Donkeys)

31 December - China announces a new virus in Wuhan.
23 January. - Wuhan locked down and Matt Hancock tells the House of Commons not to worry as we are full ready to cope with it should it make it over to UK
24. “. - Lancet announces the severe danger to human life from the virus
24 January - Johnson skips first Cobra meeting
29 January - Johnson skips second Cobra meeting
30 January - WHO declares a public health emergency of international concern.
31 January - NHS England declares first ever “level 4} critical health crises.
31 January - Johnson declines to join an EU initiative to source and purchase PPE
5 February - Johnson skips the third Cobra meeting
12 February - government advised that Covid could infect 45 million people if left unchecked.
12 February - Johnson skips fourth Cobra meeting
14 February - Johnson retreats to Chevening for a “working holiday”
14 February - civil servants were to ensure that all briefings given to Johnson have to be short and none complicated if they want them to be read by the PM.
15 February - the first covid related death in Europe.
18 February - Johnson skips the 5 th Cobra meeting.
During February on Marr we learned from Gove that Johnson, doesn’t like chairing meeting, doesn’t work weekends and likes holidays.
28 February- first British death
29th - NHS warns of severe shortage of PPE and the nightmare facing the health service. Much is out of date.
29th February - Johnson retreats to Chequers for a break,

2nd March - Johnson finally attends a Cobra meeting.
3 rd March - scientists advise people not to shake hands.
3rd March - Downing Street press conference. Johnson he will carry on shaking hands as he sees no problems with doing so.
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The WHO did a very rapid about turn.
On January 23rd 2020 they declared that the Wuhan coronavirus did not yet constitute a public health emergency of international concern.
Less than a week later it had been declared one by them.
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For the current UK situation- a young friend (ex 6th form student of mine) send me this message today. Her mum, in her 80s, full of beans and yet frail, had her first jab on Monday:

''I’d humbly suggest that any sensible U.K. gov would now be prioritising remaining Pfizer stocks for second doses for those who’ve already had a first. This government of course will likely offer them a dose of Astra Zeneca and tell them it’s all the same thing. Or maybe some Lemsip, who knows.''

I think she has got the measure of it about right.
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For the current UK situation- a young friend (ex 6th form student of mine) send me this message today. Her mum, in her 80s, full of beans and yet frail, had her first jab on Monday:

''I’d humbly suggest that any sensible U.K. gov would now be prioritising remaining Pfizer stocks for second doses for those who’ve already had a first. This government of course will likely offer them a dose of Astra Zeneca and tell them it’s all the same thing. Or maybe some Lemsip, who knows.''

I think she has got the measure of it about right.
The general idea of 12 week dosing is at least as efficacious if not a bit more so than the 4 week gap. And it supplies more net protection in the short term. Total no brainer.

If there is a problem in supply then clearly the most important people to vaccinate are those who have already had a Pfizer jab. If we run out because the EU refuses to export, and there are people remaining who have had 1 doses then the only option would be to give them 2 AZ doses. I don't think 1 of each is properly tested.

I sincerely doubt that the EU would refuse to export at least the numbers required to vaccinate those who've already had a first dose. Even if not, we might be able to source a small number from the US which also manufactures Pfizer.

The UK is pretty much self sufficient with AZ - so at least has something to fall back on if vaccine nationalism kicks in.
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The WHO did a very rapid about turn.
On January 23rd 2020 they declared that the Wuhan coronavirus did not yet constitute a public health emergency of international concern.
Less than a week later it had been declared one by them.
On 22 January 2020, the members of the WHO Emergency Committee expressed divergent views on whether this event constitutes a public health emergency of international concern or not. At that time, the advice was that the event did not constitute a PHEIC.

If the members of the WHO Emergency Committee do not vote in favour then no declaration can be made, it was the member countries, like the US, that did the very rapid about-turn.
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The general idea of 12 week dosing is at least as efficacious if not a bit more so than the 4 week gap. And it supplies more net protection in the short term. Total no brainer.
Your evidence for this is...?

Everything I've read (particularly from the manufacturers) suggests going over 6 weeks likely weakens the overall immune response.
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Your "friend" clearly doesn't understand the meaning of the word "pandemic"/

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It is possible the friend meant it as a figure of speech. People do on occasion, talk about an epidemic of noncommunicable diseases, for example.
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