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Re: Coronavirus

Why are we still talking about Sweden? Looking at deaths per million, they are number 10 in the EU. The main difference is probably that they screwed up in a different way than other countries.
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Old 08.02.2021, 19:12
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Oh boy, these guys surely look like they know what they are talking about. The whole website lacks basic language skills, let alone signs of competence. "We demand vaccination for anyone who wants it", really?
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Old 08.02.2021, 19:15
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Strange. Worldometers gives absolutely different picture. The number of deaths in Sweden is decreasing from the beginning of the year.
Why not look at the Swedish numbers? Like 10 deaths per million per day (divide Avlidna per dag by 10.23 million)since 14 dec 2020 until mid January 2021 of January. Not so different to what dandi posted https://experience.arcgis.com/experi...6f9f87457ed9aa
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Old 08.02.2021, 19:38
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Wasn't there a report that in GE, B117 was already 20% of cases or more? That might explain R.
If you look at the latest BAG numbers it is at about 20% for the whole of Switzerland.
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Old 08.02.2021, 19:44
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Why are we still talking about Sweden? Looking at deaths per million, they are number 10 in the EU. The main difference is probably that they screwed up in a different way than other countries.
It's important because when talking about lockdowns and masks, people should understand that there are alternatives and what those alternatives mean.
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Old 08.02.2021, 19:45
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If you look at the latest BAG numbers it is at about 20% for the whole of Switzerland.
Makes sense. Say we would have 0.9 without B117 and now 20% have this variant, that alone explains R going up by 0.1 give or take if you assume 40% more infectious. So you can take a guess where we are going.
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"Canton doctor expects the measures to be extended until May
what year?
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Old 09.02.2021, 05:57
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I am glad you are here.
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Old 09.02.2021, 07:49
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2023, if the current Swiss rate of vaccination continues
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Old 09.02.2021, 08:57
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It's important because when talking about lockdowns and masks, people should understand that there are alternatives and what those alternatives mean.
You mean choosing to die.
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Old 09.02.2021, 10:10
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Makes sense. Say we would have 0.9 without B117 and now 20% have this variant, that alone explains R going up by 0.1 give or take if you assume 40% more infectious. So you can take a guess where we are going.
There are over a hundred kids from five classes in three schools in Neuchâtel in quarantine due to 8 cases of the British variant being detected. Close contacts and family are also isolating.
They involve two secondary schools and one post obligatory school so kids between 12 and 18 years old.
I imagine other areas are observing similar scenarios.
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Old 09.02.2021, 10:17
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There are over a hundred kids from five classes in three schools in Neuchâtel in quarantine due to 8 cases of the British variant being detected. Close contacts and family are also isolating.
They involve two secondary schools and one post obligatory school so kids between 12 and 18 years old.
I imagine other areas are observing similar scenarios.
A friend of mine had something similar happen at their kid's school last week. Two cases of the UK or SA variant in two different classes resulted in both schools (primary and secondary) being closed down and every single kid from kindergarten through to secondary school going into quarantine until they'd had a negative Covid test. Result was 4 positive tests from the whole of both schools including staff.

Waste. Of. Time.
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Old 09.02.2021, 10:23
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Tom, you live in a rather small bubble.

I think it is best to keep things as is until the end of March - or re-open businesses and have schools carry out distance learning.
Before the new British variant it wasn't the schools that were "at fault". Kids have a relatively small bubble they live in - class colleagues, some of which are their closest friends too, a couple of friends, parents, siblings. They see everyday the same people. They usually walk to school.
Of course, that might have changed or could change now.
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Old 09.02.2021, 10:24
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You mean choosing to die.
Most people don't get the virus.

Most people who get the virus don't get sick from it.

Most people who get sick from it don't get seriously ill.

Most people who get seriously ill don't die from it.

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Old 09.02.2021, 10:37
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There are over a hundred kids from five classes in three schools in Neuchâtel in quarantine due to 8 cases of the British variant being detected. Close contacts and family are also isolating.
They involve two secondary schools and one post obligatory school so kids between 12 and 18 years old.
I imagine other areas are observing similar scenarios.

In this context it is really hard to read on 'ski groups' about people planning to come at Easter, and planning every trick in the book to try and beat rules and regulations- because they just have to ski or die.
I am a very keen skier, been skiing since I was 18 months or so- and it was always our main holiday as a family- but this year will be the first without a family ski holiday- and the second without seeing family at all, so it really ***ses me off big time, massively.

And yes, I do intend to go skiing, because as a Swiss resident, I can. Will go off-peak, mid week, self catering and be very careful.
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Re: Coronavirus

Just read about this and was very surprised

''People with gum disease who catch Covid are nine more likely to die, warns a new study.

Covid-19 patients are three times more likely to end up in intensive care or on a ventilator if they already suffer from periodontitis, a serious form of gum disease, according to the findings.''
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Re: Coronavirus

All people who don't get the virus don't die from the virus.
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All people who don't get the virus don't die from the virus.
That's encouraging. Thanks.
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Old 09.02.2021, 11:03
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Re: Coronavirus

Just checked the new travel restrictions valid since yesterday. It's possible to return to CH without quarantine by plane from any country which is not in the list of risk countries. All is needed is a negative PCR test 72 hours before boarding the plane and filling a form

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...nreisende.html
https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/inte...nal/quarantine

So, air travel is open.....to all people with CH passport or residence permit.

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Just checked the new travel restrictions valid since yesterday. It's possible to return to CH without quarantine by plane from any country which is not in the list of risk countries. All is needed is a negative PCR test 72 hours before boarding the plane and filling a form

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...nreisende.html
https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/inte...nal/quarantine

So, air travel is open.
But travel restrictions still apply from countries on risk list (ie 3rd country nationals banned).

Unlike the U.K. who despite vaccinating many people, are today going to announce that travellers entering need 3 PCR test. -72hrs, +2 days & +8 days apparently. That makes visiting totally unaffordable and unworkable
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