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Old 27.02.2021, 22:12
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I guess ZuriRollt is saying it doesn't; it was a poor choice of words. She just chooses not to take any risks by travelling to her daughter at the moment.

I'm not sure why her daughter can't travel to see her (from a distance), though.
If you can’t understand English, then I guess you shouldn’t be here
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Old 27.02.2021, 22:16
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If you can’t understand English, then I guess you shouldn’t be here
Oh dear!
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Old 27.02.2021, 22:26
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If you can’t understand English, then I guess you shouldn’t be here
At the risk of running interference (with the best intentions of course)...I actually took 22yards comments as constructive/positive ZuriRolt. I thought he was trying to help. My apologies if I misinterpreted; I don't know your past history...
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Old 28.02.2021, 00:29
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Re: Coronavirus

We haven't seen our families since 2019. I remember when we had the chance to move to another continent we refused because....well, because we would have seen our families once in a couple of years, as we heard it happens to other people...
The good news is that both mom and in-laws got vaccinated with the first round. It brings me hope.
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Old 28.02.2021, 07:55
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I guess ZuriRollt is saying it doesn't; it was a poor choice of words. She just chooses not to take any risks by travelling to her daughter at the moment.

I'm not sure why her daughter can't travel to see her (from a distance), though.
I also think that meeting her daughter outdoors and keeping the distance should be OK. ZuriRollt is so fortunate having her daughter living so close to her. My daughter is studying in Zurich, and it was just lucky for both of us that she chose to study in Switzerland and not abroad. So many people are unable to see their families, this is so sad.
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Old 28.02.2021, 08:29
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I don’t really understand your question Tom.

We can travel as much as we want on public Transport (OV), or see whoever we want. But it it is just a matter of choice. No-one will control either how many people you see, or how you get together.

It’s just a matter of personal choice, as to whether you want to get infected and/or pass it on, within the circumstances of the current pandemic.
No problem, just waiting for my vaccination (preferably neither the Astra Zeneca nor the Sputnik one).
As we always travel by personal transport, this is not an issue for us.

Choosing not to travel is a matter of choice, as you yourself said.

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Old 28.02.2021, 08:29
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We haven't seen our families since 2019. I remember when we had the chance to move to another continent we refused because....well, because we would have seen our families once in a couple of years, as we heard it happens to other people...
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I refused to move to Singapore for that very reason and that’s how we ended up in Switzerland.
My mother was living alone and had a life limiting condition and there was no way that I was going to move so far away from her.
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Old 28.02.2021, 09:04
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Haven’t hugged my Daddy back home in Texas since October 2018. Was planning on an extended stay in May 2020, but we know how that went. The recent winter weather disaster in Texas and how helpless I felt was really hard on the mental health. I tried to support and help him as much as I could from here. Being an only child to a widowed father abroad isn’t easy. I feel guilty a lot of the time ... can’t wait to get home.
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Old 01.03.2021, 00:00
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It's undeniably tough for a lot of people right now; has been for a year already. My immediate family—siblings, parents and self—have been spread over three continents for 25 years now. Obviously, getting together, even with just one of them, has been difficult. But I did manage to get back to Australia ten years ago to be with all of them when I was completely unexpectedly told that my dad had just days to live, and those final days with him are something I will always cherish.

Sadly, a few months ago my mother passed away in Canada. I knew it was coming, but there was nothing I could do. I couldn't go to see her; I wouldn't have been allowed to see her, even if I had somehow been admitted to Canada. I couldn't even talk to her on the phone. I feel a tremendous lack of closure, which obviously won't change.
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Old 01.03.2021, 07:48
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Remember the praise that was heaped on Germany at the beginning of the Pandemic? Well they've just entered their fifth straight month of lockdown, and still the end is not in sight. Vaccine rollout has also been a disaster (in part due to the reverence towards the EU), however even the over-65s are still not able to take the AZ vaccine.

In eastern Europe the cases are starting to tick up again too despite being in lockdown.
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Old 01.03.2021, 08:28
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In eastern Europe the cases are starting to tick up again too despite being in lockdown.
In some places they finally opened the schools so this might be a reason. And I doubt EE was ever in a proper lockdown, as it should have been normal at least during the first wave when we knew a lot less than we know now about the virus, allowing people to travel to different countries and back. You know, because of that thing the Western Europeans hate with a passion when it fits them but not during corona crisis though - FMOP. Or spending their holidays abroad. That doesn't look like a lockdown to me.


For me personally it's a mystery how my country, which is over-represented in statistics on doctors/medical staff working abroad hasn't collapsed yet. In fact we're among the first places in EU at the number of vaccinations if I remember correctly.
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Old 01.03.2021, 09:15
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For me personally it's a mystery how my country, which is over-represented in statistics on doctors/medical staff working abroad hasn't collapsed yet. In fact we're among the first places in EU at the number of vaccinations if I remember correctly.
This is a few days old but gives a good overview of the vaccination situation across Europe.
The UK is miles ahead of anywhere else followed by Serbia and Malta. Switzerland doesn’t look too bad in comparison to other countries but most people expected better.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/...pe-by-country/
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Old 01.03.2021, 09:18
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Remember the praise that was heaped on Germany at the beginning of the Pandemic? Well they've just entered their fifth straight month of lockdown, and still the end is not in sight. Vaccine rollout has also been a disaster (in part due to the reverence towards the EU), however even the over-65s are still not able to take the AZ vaccine.

In eastern Europe the cases are starting to tick up again too despite being in lockdown.
"In Germany as of Thursday, almost 3.7 million people had been administered their first doses of the vaccine, over 1.9 million people have gotten a second jab, making them fully vaccinated," Health Minister Jens Spahn said on Friday.

In Switzerland, as of February 23, around 884,025 vaccination doses had been delivered. How many are in people's arms I could not find?
AZ vaccine is not yet approved.

Know the expression "people in glass houses should not throw stones"?
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Old 01.03.2021, 09:37
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In Switzerland, as of February 23, around 884,025 vaccination doses had been delivered. How many are in people's arms I could not find?
AZ vaccine is not yet approved.
Latest Swiss vaccine data

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/epid...gic/vacc-doses
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Old 01.03.2021, 12:22
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Re: Coronavirus

It seems that on 22nd March rules will definitely get even more relaxed (the pressure is too great). The current relaxation of rules starts today, I assume it will take 3 weeks for any rise of infection numbers to manifest itself?

Isn't it stupid to promise more relaxation for the 22nd of March when we are not fully sure about the impact of today's relaxation?
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It seems that on 22nd March rules will definitely get even more relaxed (the pressure is too great). The current relaxation of rules starts today, I assume it will take 3 weeks for any rise of infection numbers to manifest itself?

Isn't it stupid to promise more relaxation for the 22nd of March when we are not fully sure about the impact of today's relaxation?
I think people are at their wit's end mate ... even my petrified father in law wants the restaurants to open. I don't think any of the relaxed measures today will have much of an impact on the numbers.

I really wish we could be better ahead with the vaccinations...
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Particular credit to AI for administering more vaccines than they have had delivered to them? Did they nick them?
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Old 01.03.2021, 13:29
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I think people are at their wit's end mate ... even my petrified father in law wants the restaurants to open. I don't think any of the relaxed measures today will have much of an impact on the numbers.

I really wish we could be better ahead with the vaccinations...
Have you looked at the delivery schedule? We are due to get a LOT in May and June (c. 3 million in May and 3 million in June). Versus c. 400,000 in January and 600,000 in February.

The cavalry (Moderna) is coming...

Now we've got a lot of variants we need to be careful. If you are at your wit's end now, it'll be worse if we have a big wave in late spring to early summer.

Personally I'd wait at least another month before restaurants to see how the infections go, and be ready to wait until June at the worst case.

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Old 01.03.2021, 13:38
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Particular credit to AI for administering more vaccines than they have had delivered to them? Did they nick them?
They had to beg to get some from other cantons as they’d used up all their supplies in first doses and needed some for second doses which they didn’t have.
Nidwald was also in the same position I believe.

Both cantons have to give back the ‘borrowed’ doses once they receive new supplies.
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They had to beg to get some from other cantons as they’d used up all their supplies in first doses and needed some for second doses which they didn’t have.
Nidwald was also in the same position I believe.

Both cantons have to give back the ‘borrowed’ doses once they receive new supplies.
In fairness to Nidwalden the number is less than 100. AI were miles out!
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