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Old 01.03.2021, 13:41
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In fairness to Nidwalden the number is less than 100. AI were miles out!
It is now, they were at about 114% at one point.
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Have you looked at the delivery schedule? We are due to get a LOT in May and June (c. 3 million in May and 3 million in June). Versus c. 400,000 in January and 600,000 in February.

The cavalry (Moderna) is coming...

Now we've got a lot of variants we need to be careful. If you are at your wit's end now, it'll be worse if we have a big wave in late spring to early summer.

Personally I'd wait at least another month before restaurants to see how the infections go, and be ready to wait until June at the worst case.
I'm almost at my wit's end, but I am remaining locked down until I get the vaccine. I'm not ready to give up after being so good for so long. I've just spoken to so many people who are suffering deeply from depression. People who were very pro measures before. I think we should keep all bars/clubs closed, but having restaurants open outdoors with an earlier closing time should be reasonable.

But I just saw numbers are back up again this Monday...don't know what to think. Tough decisions to be made without our consideration it seems...
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Old 01.03.2021, 17:35
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But I just saw numbers are back up again this Monday...don't know what to think. Tough decisions to be made without our consideration it seems...
That's 7 days running with an increase now. R is back up to 1.06 - if that continues then the BR's own criteria would indicate no further opening on the 22nd.

I suspect the Kent mutation is currently mainly to blame, I believe it is something like 50% of new cases and the increase in the R number is about what one would expect if the increased infectiousness is in the 30% to 50% range. The real worry though is the small but increasing numbers of the SA and Brazil versions.
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Re: Coronavirus

hell, yes. and then they gonna shot you right there:


Switzerland set to deploy coronavirus-detecting sniffer dogs

vaccination segregation
https://www.thelocal.ch/20210301/gre...ts-for-summer/

trained dogs...what next.concentration camps?
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Old 01.03.2021, 17:37
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Today's 7 days average is 3% more, than in the previous 7 days.
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Old 01.03.2021, 17:46
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hell, yes. and then they gonna shot you right there:


Switzerland set to deploy coronavirus-detecting sniffer dogs

vaccination segregation
https://www.thelocal.ch/20210301/gre...ts-for-summer/

trained dogs...what next.concentration camps?
Frau Merkel raising 2 important points. With the vaccination rate in CH, it would be bit ridiculous to think about opening only for the vaccinated. They don't leave their care homes that often

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However, last week, Angela Merkel told German newspaper Allgemeine Zeitung: “First, it must actually be clearly resolved that vaccinated people are no longer infectious.”

“As long as the number of those who have been vaccinated is still so much smaller than the number who are waiting for vaccination, the state should not treat the two groups differently.”
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Old 01.03.2021, 17:47
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I'm almost at my wit's end, but I am remaining locked down until I get the vaccine. I'm not ready to give up after being so good for so long. I've just spoken to so many people who are suffering deeply from depression. People who were very pro measures before. I think we should keep all bars/clubs closed, but having restaurants open outdoors with an earlier closing time should be reasonable.

But I just saw numbers are back up again this Monday...don't know what to think. Tough decisions to be made without our consideration it seems...
Then again, during the weekend I saw many people enjoying the sunshine, having picnics in the park, getting drinks from the take away stands and consuming them by the lake/river. It felt lively and hopeful.

It would indeed be a shame to throw in the towel now with the cavalry on the way (albeit stuck in traffic).
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Old 01.03.2021, 18:22
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Re: Coronavirus

The numbers for fri, sat & sun combined 2560 out of 62k tests

83 hospitalisations
16 death

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/overview

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Swiss Covid numbers are slowing their decrease.

This weekend:
2449 cases.
4.2%
84 Hospitalizations.

Last weekend:
2480 cases.
3.8%.
99 Hospitalizations.

Two weeks ago:
3280 cases.
4.9%.
143 hospitalizations.

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Old 01.03.2021, 18:26
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Then again, during the weekend I saw many people enjoying the sunshine, having picnics in the park, getting drinks from the take away stands and consuming them by the lake/river. It felt lively and hopeful.

It would indeed be a shame to throw in the towel now with the cavalry on the way (albeit stuck in traffic).
Isn't there a happy medium of being out, enjoying the improving weather, and just kind of forgetting about sit in meals. Still miles better than that awful winter we've just had.

I think paradoxically the uptick may be due in part to improving weather - good enough that people want to leave their houses but still actually quite cold. But once it really begins to warm we should see a decrease.
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The numbers for fri, sat & sun combined 2560 out of 62k tests

83 hospitalisations
16 death

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/overview
4.1% - actually a bit better than last weekend.
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Old 01.03.2021, 18:42
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Luzern has updated its official vaccination site, indicating that the 65-75 age group will be vaccinated "earliest in May/June". Previously they were announcing "starting in March".

That is some delay!
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Old 01.03.2021, 19:18
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Frau Merkel raising 2 important points. With the vaccination rate in CH, it would be bit ridiculous to think about opening only for the vaccinated. They don't leave their care homes that often
Australia has got it right. They're vaccinating the young people and workers first, then the elderly who are anyway going to die soon and who don't leave their residences often.

But this will all be past drama in a couple of months.
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Old 01.03.2021, 20:25
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Australia has got it right. They're vaccinating the young people and workers first, then the elderly who are anyway going to die soon and who don't leave their residences often.

But this will all be past drama in a couple of months.
You're mistaken; Australia is following the same vaccine phasing as the rest of the world (frontline workers, age care homes, doctors/nurses followed by seniors over 80 -> 70 year olds -> 60's -> 50's etc. Healthy young adults (<50 year old) and people under the age of 16 are last to be vaccinated.

You can see the official vaccine phasing in the following document:

https://www.health.gov.au/initiative...vid-19-vaccine
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Old 01.03.2021, 21:47
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You're mistaken; Australia is following the same vaccine phasing as the rest of the world (frontline workers, age care homes, doctors/nurses followed by seniors over 80 -> 70 year olds -> 60's -> 50's etc. Healthy young adults (<50 year old) and people under the age of 16 are last to be vaccinated.

You can see the official vaccine phasing in the following document:

https://www.health.gov.au/initiative...vid-19-vaccine
I believe it is Indonesia which is going for the working population first.
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Old 01.03.2021, 22:18
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Re: Coronavirus

A couple of new Swedish rules announced yesterday

According to the new decision, catering establishments and restaurants must close at 20.30 (8.30 pm). This applies regardless of whether alcohol is served or not.

And an odd one;
Any catering establishment that is located in a shopping centre, such as shopping malls, can only serve customers eating alone.
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Old 01.03.2021, 22:23
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That's 7 days running with an increase now. R is back up to 1.06 - if that continues then the BR's own criteria would indicate no further opening on the 22nd.

I suspect the Kent mutation is currently mainly to blame, I believe it is something like 50% of new cases and the increase in the R number is about what one would expect if the increased infectiousness is in the 30% to 50% range. The real worry though is the small but increasing numbers of the SA and Brazil versions.
Switzerland's shit vaccination strategy is to blame. The UKs cases are falling sharply. 1 shot of AZ vaccine reduces chances of hospitalisation by 95% ..... but Switzerland won't approve it because it's "safer to be cautious"
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It's undeniably tough for a lot of people right now; has been for a year already. My immediate family—siblings, parents and self—have been spread over three continents for 25 years now. Obviously, getting together, even with just one of them, has been difficult. But I did manage to get back to Australia ten years ago to be with all of them when I was completely unexpectedly told that my dad had just days to live, and those final days with him are something I will always cherish.

Sadly, a few months ago my mother passed away in Canada. I knew it was coming, but there was nothing I could do. I couldn't go to see her; I wouldn't have been allowed to see her, even if I had somehow been admitted to Canada. I couldn't even talk to her on the phone. I feel a tremendous lack of closure, which obviously won't change.
I am so sorry to hear about your Mom's passing. I went through something similar last March when I was supposed to travel back to the US and see my Mom who was not doing well and then COVID hit and she passed while I was "stuck" here.

I was able to FaceTime with my Mom in her final hours, but she was barely cogent although she did seem to recognize my voice.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know that I can empathize with your lack of closure so to speak. It's not easy to lose one's parent especially in these difficult times. Thinking of you... And to quote my Mom, "This too shall pass!" But it takes time - for me at least.
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Australia and NZ, being zero covid countries, can start from any age group they want. The chance of their elderly to die from Covid is about zero at the moment. Which is not the case in the rest of the world, unfortunately.
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Switzerland's shit vaccination strategy is to blame. The UKs cases are falling sharply. 1 shot of AZ vaccine reduces chances of hospitalisation by 95% ..... but Switzerland won't approve it because it's "safer to be cautious"
If vaccination helps that much why does Israel has increase of cases in the last week?
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If vaccination helps that much why does Israel has increase of cases in the last week?
Are you saying that vaccination doesn’t help? Israel may have seen an increase in cases but they’ve seen a sharp decrease in deaths, so presumably the increase is among the younger population that hasn’t yet had their jab, but who are less likely to get seriously ill. I’m guessing that the success of their rollout has encouraged more younger people to get out and socialise.
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