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Things are looking really good.
I don't share this opinion. 7 days average is +2% comparing to the previous week. Probably will be about +10% next week, considering the relaxation of the measures, and then +20% and so on.

The ICU and the deaths will still be going down for some time, because the cases went down two weeks ago, but the will be increasing again in about two weeks.

The rate of British mutation is about 70% already.
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Old 03.03.2021, 18:06
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My wife made it back from Lombardia today without being stopped!

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It seems to be the most populated cantons which are having the biggest problems organising their vaccination programme.
They clearly don’t appear to have the know how to organise something on that scale.
The health minister of Zurich said that Kt Zh received proportionally less vaccines because the population is younger as in some other cantons. She also said that they could manage to administer much bigger amount of vaccines but they are simply not available.
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Old 03.03.2021, 18:19
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The health minister of Zurich said that Kt Zh received proportionally less vaccines because the population is younger as in some other cantons. She also said that they could manage to administer much bigger amount of vaccines but they are simply not available.
Does not make sense, they should have had enough vaccine doses delivered for the highest priority group. Once they are treated then they could consider tapering down future deliveries versus other cantons.

Last week my doctor said that likely I would get an appointment at the end of this month but now the local newspaper says early April.
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Old 03.03.2021, 18:26
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If it was the case that Belgiummum couldn't get a vaccine then the kid's vaccination may be justified but IIRC she has had hers - whilst people like Jackie's husband at 74 and with co-morbidites are still waiting (in the same canton!).

The common sense lightbulb should be flashing ... but evidently isn't.
If you have been paying attention, cantons are vaccinating differently. My canton is still barely into vaccinating the most at risk. Belgianmum's canton is already vaccinating household of those at risk.

And since I know you are aware of my posts, I'm at risk with no chance at getting one anytime soon - and my husband is even further down the list.

No need to be a jerk.
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Old 03.03.2021, 18:41
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Vaud appears to be doing better. I’ve had both and my wife (also receiving treatment for Cancer) has her first on 11 March.
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Old 03.03.2021, 19:07
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Vaud appears to be doing better. I’ve had both and my wife (also receiving treatment for Cancer) has her first on 11 March.
Indeed. I have two colleagues under 30 with no preexisting conditions who go their first jabs last week. And we don’t work in healthcare.
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If you have been paying attention, cantons are vaccinating differently. My canton is still barely into vaccinating the most at risk. Belgianmum's canton is already vaccinating household of those at risk.

And since I know you are aware of my posts, I'm at risk with no chance at getting one anytime soon - and my husband is even further down the list.

No need to be a jerk.
I don't think I was at all - I certainly tried to make clear that I wasn't blaming Belgiummum's kid or herself (which would evidently be ridiculous).

I just was criticizing the vaccination strategy of that particular kanton that gave the vaccine to a university age person on the basis that they live with a vulnerable person, when:

i) said vulnerable person has already been vaccinated, and

ii) when other (relatively vulnerable) people in their 60s (70s?) still haven't been vaccinated.

You might disagree with that assessment, but I don't think that means I am "being a jerk". I was rude to absolutely nobody. I'm not sure what's triggered you here. Also a bit confused you liked my first post on the topic then groaned the second when the content and conclusion reached was pretty similar.

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According to this 40% of +75 have gotten their jabs in Vaud

https://monitoring.unisante.ch/d/krL...d=4&refresh=5m
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Old 03.03.2021, 21:01
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I think weird animals, bats, snakes..are looking forward to not being eaten by human beings. I see that far in the future.
depends on how long lockdowns will be prolonged. may be after all this will be the only food option
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Old 03.03.2021, 21:03
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all I see is old age
I like healthy optimism
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Old 03.03.2021, 21:04
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If you have been paying attention, cantons are vaccinating differently. My canton is still barely into vaccinating the most at risk. Belgianmum's canton is already vaccinating household of those at risk.

And since I know you are aware of my posts, I'm at risk with no chance at getting one anytime soon - and my husband is even further down the list.

No need to be a jerk.
And now Zurich and Bern are working together.
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Old 03.03.2021, 21:10
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I don't share this opinion. 7 days average is +2% comparing to the previous week. Probably will be about +10% next week, considering the relaxation of the measures, and then +20% and so on.

The ICU and the deaths will still be going down for some time, because the cases went down two weeks ago, but the will be increasing again in about two weeks.

The rate of British mutation is about 70% already.
I placed myself in the shoes of someone who has been waiting for months for a surgery. Since Feb 1st it seems they're being served. Let's assume things go to hell once again on 2-3 weeks down the road. Good news for a lot of people that got finally medical attention during 6-8 weeks or not? Anyway, it remains a half-empty, half-full glass issue.

If the British mutation is now 70% of cases, it just means it wasn't thaaaaaat bad. Otherwise, we'd see a rise in cases like Oct 2020.
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Old 03.03.2021, 22:15
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It seems to be the most populated cantons which are having the biggest problems organising their vaccination programme.
They clearly don’t appear to have the know how to organise something on that scale.
Yet Bern can manage the drive-thru test centers at Wankdorf and Belp. I'm puzzled why they can't organize jabs like that.

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ii) when other (relatively vulnerable) people in their 60s (70s?) still haven't been vaccinated.
In the example you gave above, I don't think JackieH and Belgianmum live in the same canton. So again it's the variations among cantons at play. I can't fault Belgianmum and her family for getting the jabs when offered. They haven't broken any rules or jumped the line. It's how her canton set it up.

At this point, I'm happy to see shots in arms. Lots of them. Regardless of age, more vaccinated people in the population = good thing.
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Old 03.03.2021, 22:23
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I can't fault Belgianmum and her family for getting the jabs when offered. They haven't broken any rules or jumped the line. It's how her canton set it up.
Absolutely. Don't want to give any impression that I'm criticising her or her family. I'd have done exactly the same.

My own family have had some people who have got the jab rather fortuitously.

This is about the vaccine strategy, not individuals.
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Yet Bern can manage the drive-thru test centers at Wankdorf and Belp. I'm puzzled why they can't organize jabs like that.



In the example you gave above, I don't think JackieH and Belgianmum live in the same canton. So again it's the variations among cantons at play. I can't fault Belgianmum and her family for getting the jabs when offered. They haven't broken any rules or jumped the line. It's how her canton set it up.

At this point, I'm happy to see shots in arms. Lots of them. Regardless of age, more vaccinated people in the population = good thing.
Actually, they are in the same Canton, in different parts though and the process is decentralized and at the discretion of the GP. I think Belgianmum’s gp was just a bit more proactive. Not necessarily better, just proactive.
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The health minister of Zurich said that Kt Zh received proportionally less vaccines because the population is younger as in some other cantons. She also said that they could manage to administer much bigger amount of vaccines but they are simply not available.
I hate them for this BS. percentagewise 65+ are everywhere around 20+-2% or so... What proportions are they talking about?
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Yet Bern can manage the drive-thru test centers at Wankdorf and Belp. I'm puzzled why they can't organize jabs like that.
There's a very, very, VERY small change of an adverse reaction to ANY vaccination. Out of an abundance of caution, doctors prefer people who have just been vaccinated to rest for a few minutes before enjoying their newly protected lives. Hence, no drive-through McVaxes.
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Does not make sense, they should have had enough vaccine doses delivered for the highest priority group. Once they are treated then they could consider tapering down future deliveries versus other cantons.

Last week my doctor said that likely I would get an appointment at the end of this month but now the local newspaper says early April.
Btw, does anyone have an idea how to tackle this:

I am in the risk group, but young (so, priority 3). When I ask my doc who I see once a month to do some treatment, she basically doesn't give a neck about vaccinations and wouldn't consider registering me anywhere. 'You'll get it eventually in summer' is her reply...

At the same time in kt. Zurich the online registration is not open, unlike the other cantons, so I cannot put myself even in the theoretical queue... So, basically now I am off the radar and there is no way I could 'report' myself as group 3. Any ideas how to tackle this? Wait and hope for the online registration?
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Old 03.03.2021, 23:13
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There's a very, very, VERY small change of an adverse reaction to ANY vaccination. Out of an abundance of caution, doctors prefer people who have just been vaccinated to rest for a few minutes before enjoying their newly protected lives. Hence, no drive-through McVaxes.
I had my jab in a vaccination centre, everyone was kept under observation for 30 minutes before being let go. Apparently if you are going to go into anaphylactic shock it's going to happen within the first 30 mins.
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