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I can assure you that non of the kids and neither the teacher does it.
exactly. so for kids, the masks are more dangerous than the covid itself
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You can see masks on the ground everywhere these days. I don't think they are left by school kids only.
I think it's some of the adults that have difficulties or forget to behave like responsible social beings. Kids are repeated all the time to leave their place neat and clean.
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Old 09.03.2021, 12:11
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The funny thing is how the kids magically stop spreading the infection when they eat their lunch in Hort sitting next to the kids from different classes. The chain is only as strong as its weakest link. In this case the weakest link is that kids are touching the masks, don't change them as often as they should, wear the masks that do not correspond to the requirements and meet together without masks in the free time and visit each other at home. This requirement is as pure imitation of the activity in order to demonstrate that the canton authorities are doing something to eliminate the virus spreading at schools.
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Old 09.03.2021, 12:16
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The funny thing is how the kids magically stop spreading the infection when they eat their lunch in Hort sitting next to the kids from different classes. The chain is only as strong as its weakest link. In this case the weakest link is that kids are touching the masks, don't change them as often as they should, wear the masks that do not correspond to the requirements and meet together without masks in the free time and visit each other at home. This requirement is as pure imitation of the activity in order to demonstrate that the canton authorities are doing something to eliminate the virus spreading at schools.
So do you want your children not to go to school then because you don't think masks are effective? Or are just stomping your foot because you don't want the kids to do what they have been told to do? Do you not want the authorities to do anything to help stop the spread of the virus in schools?
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Old 09.03.2021, 12:28
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The funny thing is how the kids magically stop spreading the infection when they eat their lunch in Hort sitting next to the kids from different classes. The chain is only as strong as its weakest link. In this case the weakest link is that kids are touching the masks, don't change them as often as they should, wear the masks that do not correspond to the requirements and meet together without masks in the free time and visit each other at home. This requirement is as pure imitation of the activity in order to demonstrate that the canton authorities are doing something to eliminate the virus spreading at schools.
On a 2nd thought, maybe imitation of the activity in order might have a political upside: schools are at least open. Or, would you prefer living in a place where science truly matters, schools have been closed and children have been at home for a year? Of course, other cantons require no mask for children under 12, because grass must be greener somewhere.

So, what science do you prefer? The stupid one that recommends children wearing masks, the one that closes schools, or the one that doesn't require anything for children. I hope it's clear by now that science is a tool to find answers, not THE ANSWER. So, it's completely OK that different people arrive to different conclusions. Expecting consensus is just misguided.
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Old 09.03.2021, 12:38
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Bloomberg News reported that Adienne Pharma & Biotech announced a deal with Russia's sovereign wealth fund, the RDIF, to begin production near Milan.
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Another funny thing is that the free time sport activities are now allowed for young people under 20 without limitations, no distance or masks requirements. While the 10 years school children have to wear masks during the sport lesson in the big sport hall with the kids from their class. What science stands behind this?
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So, what science do you prefer? The stupid one that recommends children wearing masks, the one that closes schools, or the one that doesn't require anything for children.
Considering that there is no difference in the effectiveness of managing the second wave between countries who have masks requirements for kids from 6 or from 12 years, or those which did or did not close schools this winter, I would prefer the science that doesn't require anything.
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Considering that there is no difference in the effectiveness of managing the second wave between countries who have masks requirements for kids from 6 or from 12 years, or those which did or did not close schools this winter, I would prefer the science that doesn't require anything.
LOL, the nerve that some people have to think they can dictate science due to a few small inconveniences.

Meanwhile, numbers are going back up:

09.03

1378 cases
The BAG reported 1378 new corona cases on Tuesday.

23,967 tests were carried out.

The positivity rate is 5.7 percent.

61 people had to be admitted to the hospital.

There were 13 new deaths.

https://www.20min.ch/story/wie-reagi...n-334269689516
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Do you not want the authorities to do anything to help stop the spread of the virus in schools?
I definitely don't want authorities to do anything just for the sake of doing anything. There are only very few countries who have really consistent (and working) measures, the rest of the world is experimenting. So far I was very happy to live in the country that keeps the measures at minimum and that mostly consist of prohibiting physical presence of people in the non-essencial establishments, which seems to have the most effect. I also appreciate a lot that kids go to school continuously since the last spring lockdown has ended.

I would definitely prefer my daughter to stay a week at home in case of positive result in the class or have a saliva test rather than wear masks all the time. There were only 4-6 cases of corona in our town in the last 7 days so the probability of the case in her class is very low. She didn't have to wear masks when there were 60-70 cases, so why should she now?
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Old 09.03.2021, 14:20
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LOL, the nerve that some people have to think they can dictate science due to a few small inconveniences.
There is no science that considers 19 years old in the mixed group less significant for the infection spreading than 10 years old within the stable group. Only politics can be ok with that, but no science.
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Old 09.03.2021, 14:31
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I just got COVID-19 test done, negative.
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Old 09.03.2021, 14:34
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Considering that there is no difference in the effectiveness of managing the second wave between countries who have masks requirements for kids from 6 or from 12 years, or those which did or did not close schools this winter, I would prefer the science that doesn't require anything.
How did you eliminate all the other relevant factors outside of masks and school closings to reach your conclusion?
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There is no science that considers 19 years old in the mixed group less significant for the infection spreading than 10 years old within the stable group. Only politics can be ok with that, but no science.
I am fairly certain that was lifted because a number of entitled parents and teenagers like you moaned enough... it makes no sense, you are correct. You are lucky your kids are in school, now stop the complaining. You are like a child "but they can do it, so why can't I?" What kind of example are you to your kids?FFS

The science is still correct that masks help stop the spread of the virus ...
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'Swiss biopharma company to produce Russian Sputnik vaccine in Italy'

Certainly interesting news.
I follow this thread to keep abreast of the latest news that might affect me in my little corner of the country. Not really here to debate and I'm aware that my views are in the minority.
Concerning vaccine candidates, I've been surprised by lack of interest in the Sputnik-V vaccine. It feels a bit russophobic given the promising results.
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I guess this is important via the local:

General practitioners (GPs) or family doctors are now able to administer coronavirus vaccinations.

https://www.thelocal.ch/20210309/swi...at-gps-in-zug/
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Btw, I enjoyed the nose swab in a good kind of bad way It felt like someone was tickling my ear from inside my head
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Concerning vaccine candidates, I've been surprised by lack of interest in the Sputnik-V vaccine. It feels a bit russophobic given the promising results.

I feel the same. Am glad to have received an mRNA vaccine (Moderna) but I have been disappointed at the cool reception of the Sputnik vaccine in western circles. Sputnik is based on established vaccine technology, and should be every bit as safe and effective as the other current vaccines we administer to our general population.

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LOL, the nerve that some people have to think they can dictate science due to a few small inconveniences.

Meanwhile, numbers are going back up:

09.03

1378 cases
The BAG reported 1378 new corona cases on Tuesday.

23,967 tests were carried out.

The positivity rate is 5.7 percent.

61 people had to be admitted to the hospital.

There were 13 new deaths.

https://www.20min.ch/story/wie-reagi...n-334269689516

Case numbers creeping up for two weeks now. Hospitalizations still in decline, obviously. But certainly does not look good for March 22.

Mrs Martullo-Blocher will feel like a political prisoner in this dictatorship here.
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