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Interesting
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/women-a...rland/46442608
21 dead after injecting Pfizer or Moderna
and noone didnt stop anything
I love how you selectively present your information. From the article, if you actually read it (I'm guessing you didn't get further than the title):

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A total of 21 people died at various intervals after receiving the vaccine. However, their average age was 85 and the majority had pre-existing conditions.

“As far as is known at present, death was caused by conditions such as infections, cardiovascular events or diseases of the lungs and airways that occurred independently of the vaccination. Despite a chronological correlation, there is no concrete evidence to suggest that the vaccination was the cause of death,” said an official statement.

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Old 12.03.2021, 13:37
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I love how you selectively present your information. From the article, if you actually read it (I'm guessing you didn't get further than the title):

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A total of 21 people died at various intervals after receiving the vaccine. However, their average age was 85 and the majority had pre-existing conditions.
That would sum up 98% of people who die from COVID too, if you're that vulnerable you may not survive the vaccine.
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Re: Coronavirus

2 criteria out of 4 are fulfilled today (positivity rate <5% in addition to the ICU load). The federal council will inform at 14:30.
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Old 12.03.2021, 14:05
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That would sum up 98% of people who die from COVID too, if you're that vulnerable you may not survive the vaccine.
Almost correct. Of all Covid deaths in Switzerland, 72% were above 80 years old.
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Old 12.03.2021, 14:19
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I love how you selectively present your information. From the article, if you actually read it (I'm guessing you didn't get further than the title):

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A total of 21 people died at various intervals after receiving the vaccine. However, their average age was 85 and the majority had pre-existing conditions.

“As far as is known at present, death was caused by conditions such as infections, cardiovascular events or diseases of the lungs and airways that occurred independently of the vaccination. Despite a chronological correlation, there is no concrete evidence to suggest that the vaccination was the cause of death,” said an official statement.

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Exactly, which is what makes drug trials so complicated. Most drugs are tested on people who could die because of their conditions anyway ... it is difficult to determine if the death was because of the drug, or because of the condition they had that demands the drug to be made in the first place.

My FIL is convinced that he will have a stroke if he receives injections for his wet MD because years ago, people were found to have strokes while receiving them. Never mind that they were elderly, and the eye condition alone gives you a higher likelihood of stroke ... Studies eventually proved it wasn't because of the injections the strokes occurred, but you will never be able to convince him or other anti pharma/vaxxers. It is very frustrating...sure there have been bad drugs & vaccines put on the market, but the overwhelming amount of good they do should not be dismissed or speculated.
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Old 12.03.2021, 14:43
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A press conference about nothing.
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A press conference about nothing.
What did you expect? The situation isn't where they could make any changes right now. I think it is good that they warned the public of a potential third wave ... but who knows.
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Re: Coronavirus

Did I understand correctly that Alain Berset said that he understands that it's difficult to do workout with masks in gyms so there should be probably exceptions if the physical distance is held? So, poor adults are suffering when doing sport in masks, thus they make exceptions for themselves? Someone should teach them about solidarity and thinking about others.
What a hypocrisy...
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Did I understand correctly that Alain Berset said that he understands that it's difficult to do workout with masks in gyms so there should be probably exceptions if the physical distance is held? So, poor adults are suffering when doing sport in masks, thus they make exceptions for themselves? Someone should teach them about solidarity and thinking about others.
What a hypocrisy...

Unless I'm missing something gyms are still shut anyway - or mine is.
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Old 12.03.2021, 15:30
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Unless I'm missing something gyms are still shut anyway - or mine is.
Yes, there are no plans to change anything and there haven't been. They will announce if there will be any changes on March 22nd on March 19th. So far, the numbers aren't where they need to be to ease measures and well, I don't see that changing with the way things are currently.
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Old 12.03.2021, 15:39
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A press conference about nothing.
Just telling us what could happen if the situation allows it which based on current trends means nothing is going to happen on March 22nd.

All a bit pointless really but at least they can say they’re keeping us informed I guess.
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Old 12.03.2021, 15:44
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Just telling us what could happen if the situation allows it which based on current trends means nothing is going to happen on March 22nd.
Ticino news says to expect restaurants to open for external dining on 22 March.

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Ticino news says to expect restaurants to open for external dining on 22 March.

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Can they do that if there is a federal mandate? Honestly curious as to how it all works.
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Old 12.03.2021, 16:01
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Can they do that if there is a federal mandate? Honestly curious as to how it all works.
Well, the last time the "terrace rebellion" of some cantons didn't last very long.
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Unless I'm missing something gyms are still shut anyway - or mine is.
As far as I understand sport and cultural establishments might open on 22nd. Cinemas, fitness centers etc.
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Well, the last time the "terrace rebellion" of some cantons didn't last very long.
They lasted through the most of sport holidays.
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Old 12.03.2021, 16:07
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"Bern, 12.03.2021 - It is currently unclear how the epidemic will develop. Case numbers have now been rising for several days, as is the case in several neighbouring countries. There are signs that this could be the start of a third wave. At its meeting on 12 March, the Federal Council decided to begin consultations on a second phase of reopening, as announced on 24 February. If the epidemiological situation allows, from 22 March events with spectators or audiences will be allowed with restrictions, as well as gatherings at home involving up to ten people, and sporting and cultural activities in groups. Restaurants will be allowed to open outdoor seating areas. It has not yet been decided when the second phase of reopening might be permitted or what form it would take. The Federal Council will decide on further steps at its meeting on 19 March. It has also confirmed its decision that the Confederation will assume the costs of all rapid tests, including those of all asymptomatic cases. "

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...-id-82678.html

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All a bit pointless really but at least they can say they’re keeping us informed I guess.
I think it was the most pointless press conference of the whole pandemic year. The only interesting thing I learned is that they didn't ordered J&J because it was only available starting from the 3rd quarter and they have enough doses ordered for that period already.
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Re: Coronavirus

Todays published numbers

The BAG reported 1333 new corona cases on Friday.

33,281 tests were carried out.

The positivity rate is 4 percent.

69 people had to be admitted to the hospital.

There were 11 new deaths.

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229

Compared to last week friday

The BAG reports 1222 new corona cases on Friday.

31,726 tests were carried out.

The positivity rate is 3.9 percent.

61 people had to be admitted to the hospital.

There were 12 new deaths.
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Old 12.03.2021, 16:17
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Ticino news says to expect restaurants to open for external dining on 22 March.

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..and the rest of Switzerland, it's in the announcements.
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