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Bad outbreak at a school in Basel Land ... they are blaming it on the parents unwillingness for the kids to wear masks...

https://www.20min.ch/story/eltern-we...t-485018933087
The Rudolf Steiner school—that figures, absolutely. Sorry if I offend anyone, but Rudolf Steiner is a cult with no place in a scientifically informed world. In my opinion, obviously.
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Old 17.03.2021, 12:44
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The Rudolf Steiner school—that figures, absolutely. Sorry if I offend anyone, but Rudolf Steiner is a cult with no place in a scientfically informed world. In my opinion, obviously.
As long as masks are quadrangular, Rudolf-Steiner followers can't wear them.
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As long as masks are quadrangular, Rudolf-Steiner followers can't wear them.
Dont forget the wrong mask colour scheme
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Old 17.03.2021, 13:23
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The Rudolf Steiner school—that figures, absolutely. Sorry if I offend anyone, but Rudolf Steiner is a cult with no place in a scientifically informed world. In my opinion, obviously.

So school against testing and parents against masks? Did I understand correct?
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Old 17.03.2021, 13:26
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Re: Coronavirus

Sounds positive for the lockdown to continue

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The National Council discusses vaccination cards, the rescue package and vaccine production and tries to resolve differences with the Council of States. The debate in the stream and in the ticker.
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They need to start using they AZ vaccine
They only stopped using it on Monday.
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Old 17.03.2021, 13:28
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The Rudolf Steiner school—that figures, absolutely. Sorry if I offend anyone, but Rudolf Steiner is a cult with no place in a scientifically informed world. In my opinion, obviously.
I was about to tell, no prob, freedom of thought, but read this part of the article:

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Documents available to Bajour show that a group of parents and teachers at the school regard the masks as a “muzzle”, “which is about as helpful against a virus as an order to crawl on all fours would be”. At a meeting of the parent-teacher group there was a scandal because several people present did not wear a mask and others who described the behavior as "irresponsible" left the meeting.

The conflict came to a head: the canton medical service received a complaint denouncing the alleged abuses at the school. This in turn annoyed many parents, who then addressed themselves to all school members and parents with an open letter: "We consider an advertisement without prior attempt to talk to us as destructive for the community," write the undersigned, saying that their children would suffer "terribly" from the mask requirement and felt "tormented". Many teachers feel like “torturers” because they have to force children to follow “disease-causing” measures.
Is talking to others destructive to the community? If so, it's a cult. People with higher status in the cult don't want the lower status ones to talk to people outside because their power and control is at risk.

As the article author mentions in the 1st paragraph, everything works until ideas crash with reality: covid19.
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Old 17.03.2021, 13:39
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Hmmm...Know some fab graduates of Steiner schools, they did find their efficient way to work with data, not sure if it is thanks to their education or despite of it. Probably a mix of both, to be fair.
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Re: Coronavirus

So numbers are again increasing in Italy, France & Austria....

"Austria reports more new corona infections in 2021 than ever before

In Austria, the number of corona cases is increasing rapidly.On Wednesday, the authorities reported 3,239 new infections - more than ever in 2021."

https://www.20min.ch/story/oesterrei...e-132986343407
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So numbers are again increasing in Italy, France & Austria....

"Austria reports more new corona infections in 2021 than ever before

In Austria, the number of corona cases is increasing rapidly.On Wednesday, the authorities reported 3,239 new infections - more than ever in 2021."

https://www.20min.ch/story/oesterrei...e-132986343407

Perfect time then to pause rollout of one of the vaccines they have when they're already in short supply then clearly
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Re: Coronavirus

Todays published numbers are 1858 out of 40 k tests

72 hospitalisations
16 death

https://www.20min.ch/story/corona-za...k-803083076953

Compared to last week wednesday

1491 out of 32 k tests

41 hospitalisations
14 death
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The same percentage of positive, more tests produce more cases.
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Old 17.03.2021, 15:34
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Re: Coronavirus

Interesting info about N/S antibodies which i didn't know before:
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The latest word (an extremely well-made scientific study here in Sweden) says that you have a better than 95% immunity for at least 9 months after infection. This is quite on par with the best vaccines. They looked at S antibodies (against the spike protein), in contrast with other studies that have primarily looked at N antibodies (against the “nucleus” of the virus)—N antibodies tend to fade after 3–4 months, but the S antibodies lasted longer, and that’s the antibodies that the vaccines will coax the body into producing, so the results are directly comparable. In addition, you have a Covid-19-specific T cell response after going through the infection.

The conclusion from that study was that yes, if you have gone through a Covid-19 infection you should still get vaccinated as a booster, but there’s no rush. You are protected to some extent, and even if you do get re-infected, you are less likely to spread the virus.

Meanwhile, a French study indicates that it’s possible that one shot is enough for boosting the immune response after Covid-19 infection.
https://www.quora.com/Should-I-take-...s-Andersson-16
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Yea ... it seems so, so many talks of entering a third wave, numbers are clearly rising and this recent batch of winter weather won't help.

I read that they are thinking of removing the home office obligation, this is bad for me personally...I don't understand why they would do this. Opening gyms, OK...we all need sport in our lives, but do we really have to go to the office right now?
Yes! My need to be efficient (ie not working next to a toddler) is greater than someone else's need to run on the treadmill rather than outside.
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Old 17.03.2021, 16:00
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"Vaccine side effects: My experience of them and what they mean"

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56375307

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Yes! My need to be efficient (ie not working next to a toddler) is greater than someone else's need to run on the treadmill rather than outside.

Truly, so many opportunities for sport outside, gyms can wait. Go and lift some stones and tree trunks- and no need for treadmills to run.

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Old 17.03.2021, 16:18
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I usually don't lift my treadmill.

I could try.
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Old 17.03.2021, 16:27
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Truly, so many opportunities for sport outside, gyms can wait. Go and lift some tones and tree trunks- and no need for treadmills to run.
I think there will be a similar message this Friday. So many opportunities to cook and drink at home, restaurants and bars can wait.
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Old 17.03.2021, 16:35
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Yes! My need to be efficient (ie not working next to a toddler) is greater than someone else's need to run on the treadmill rather than outside.
You sound like you are on the edge. Maybe you should head for the pub and get a beer.

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Old 17.03.2021, 16:41
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12 months in, cases rising all across Europe and vaccines being delivered at a snails pace. I can only see us going from lockdown into harder lockdown. How thoroughly depressing

To add to that President von der Leyen sounded like she has completely taken leave of her sense today to cover up for the EU’s abject failure. Friends and family in the UK are all getting vaccinated and they see light at the end of the tunnel. I just see another summer of the same
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