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Old 22.03.2021, 13:33
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TC probably meant that the EU, just like the UK, doesn't produce or export vaccines. It's the privately owned companies in the regions that do.
The EU authorises vaccine exports via a licence scheme, privately-owned companies in the regions cannot send vaccines in any quantity and to anywhere without a licence.
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Old 22.03.2021, 13:43
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I agree, the damage has already been done unfortunately.

The second dose is usually the one that leads to the mild flu/Covid symptoms if you haven’t already had Covid.The first dose appears to elicit the same reaction in people who have had Covid which supports the theory that a single dose of vaccine is the way to go in those people.
Depends. For AZ the reaction is worst after the 1st jab, for Biontech and Moderna after the second. Seems Moderna has the lowest level of reaction overall.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-them-and-why (about half way down the page)

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Depends where you are.
Most places are vaccinating people who’ve already had Covid but some of them, like Switzerland, won’t do it until at least three months after the infection.
Actually here (at least my canton) it's a recommendation not a requirement. The SG registration does not ask for infection details and also positive test results are not communicated to GPs.
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Old 22.03.2021, 13:44
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Re: Coronavirus

New cases: +19% compared to the previous 7 days average
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Old 22.03.2021, 13:47
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It is claimed that Flu is mainly spread by touching contaminated surfaces hence hand washing. Coronavirus is spread by aerosols hence masks.
Flu is also mainly droplets and aerosols.

e.g https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/diseas...%20the%20lungs.
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Old 22.03.2021, 13:49
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New cases: +19% compared to the previous 7 days average
Todays published numbers for fri, sat & sun combined 3643 out of 84 k tests

98 hospitalisations
12 death

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229

Compared to last week monday (weekend)

3170 out of 71 k tests

97 hospitalisations
21 death
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Old 22.03.2021, 14:01
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New cases: +19% compared to the previous 7 days average
Yes, but quite an increase in test numbers.
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Old 22.03.2021, 14:06
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Yes, but quite an increase in test numbers.
I thought this as well, about an 18% increase in testing for a 19% increase in positives.
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Old 22.03.2021, 14:08
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Correlation does not necessarily equal causation though.

I have a friend who is 38 who had a month in hospital in 2019 with blood clots. It can happen in younger people without any previous prior medical history.

Ironically he's had his AZ vaccine two weeks before I did (and is fine) as he's classed as high risk based on these previous blood clots.
The type of clot in question is significantly more common in younger people in general.
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Old 22.03.2021, 14:17
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The EU authorises vaccine exports via a licence scheme, privately-owned companies in the regions cannot send vaccines in any quantity and to anywhere without a licence.
Authorizing exports is not the same as exporting. The EU could authorize the export of 1 billion AZ vaccines, but nothing will be exported unless AZ produces or delivers
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Old 22.03.2021, 14:32
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Authorizing exports is not the same as exporting. The EU could authorize the export of 1 billion AZ vaccines, but nothing will be exported unless AZ produces or delivers
Splitting hairs, and you know it.

What pharma company is going to apply and pay for a licence when it has nothing to export?

All of the major ("western") vaccine suppliers manufacture in and export from the EU.

Interesting that TonyClifton mentioned Trump. I see that TonyClifton has embraced Trump's tactics of spewing bald-faced lies, on the basis that half the people listening will just believe him.
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Old 22.03.2021, 14:36
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Re: Coronavirus

The key to business success, IMHO, is to promise low and deliver high. In this case the vaccine producers have done the opposite. They have promised high, by signing contracts well exceeding their ability to produce. To ensure the executives bonuses are enhanced they are delivering to the highest spenders ignoring their unsustainable contracts.

A lesson for the politicians; don’t sign contracts without cast iron guarantees of performance. And having been burned by these crooks they should think twice about doing business with them in the future.

And I encourage them to consider suspending the patent protections of these bar-stewards. Now that would get the attention of shareholders, the only people these crooks listen to.
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Old 22.03.2021, 14:43
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I thought this as well, about an 18% increase in testing for a 19% increase in positives.
didn't free quick tests start last week? That's almost certainly going to result in increasing numbers of tests and positive results.

The 12% increase we're seeing presently could be down to getting positive results for people who would not have sought a test otherwise.
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Old 22.03.2021, 14:59
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didn't free quick tests start last week? That's almost certainly going to result in increasing numbers of tests and positive results.

The 12% increase we're seeing presently could be down to getting positive results for people who would not have sought a test otherwise.
Better counting doesn’t change the fact that the infection and death rates are too high, much too high.
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Old 22.03.2021, 15:06
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My wife turned up for an AZ vaccine this morning & ended up getting Moderna. She is somewhat annoyed as we had planned being away in 4 weeks time when the second dose is due, rather than 12 weeks later as stated her appointment letter.
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Old 22.03.2021, 15:12
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The key to business success, IMHO, is to promise low and deliver high. In this case the vaccine producers have done the opposite. They have promised high, by signing contracts well exceeding their ability to produce. To ensure the executives bonuses are enhanced they are delivering to the highest spenders ignoring their unsustainable contracts.

A lesson for the politicians; don’t sign contracts without cast iron guarantees of performance. And having been burned by these crooks they should think twice about doing business with them in the future.

And I encourage them to consider suspending the patent protections of these bar-stewards. Now that would get the attention of shareholders, the only people these crooks listen to.
Unbelievable. Do this and next time we as an industry just won't bother helping. Many companies already don't with vaccines. There's no money in it. You can't get good science at commodity prices, so patent protection (to a lesser extent regulatory protection) is everything to the industry.

That's not an empty threat - the vaccine industry is pretty much on its knees already.
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Old 22.03.2021, 15:23
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Re: Coronavirus

So I checked the internet about how those covid self-tests work. Simple enough.
But the last sentence: "These covid tests can also be false-positive or false-negative". makes it sound more like a waste of money. 5 of these tests for free a month for almost 9 million people?

I can see the reason to recheck with a doctor when it's positive (like a pregnancy test) but at least if it's negative, I should be able to rely on it?
Sounds like a waste of time to me, to be honest.
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Old 22.03.2021, 15:47
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I don't think that the increase is mostly caused by increase if testing. Look at the graphs of the neigboring countries.
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Old 22.03.2021, 16:23
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Yes, but quite an increase in test numbers.
Not relevant to this post but Bern has just released another 200 000 vaccination slots. They are for group A who have not already been vaccinated and group B, not sure if you fall into that category or not but I thought it worth giving you the heads up.
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Old 22.03.2021, 16:26
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Actually here (at least my canton) it's a recommendation not a requirement. The SG registration does not ask for infection details and also positive test results are not communicated to GPs.
Ah, I assumed it was a general Swiss thing but maybe it’s up to the cantons.

In my opinion it makes sense to prioritise people without a prior Covid infection when supplies are limited and give as many people as possible some protection from the virus.
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Old 22.03.2021, 16:27
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Not relevant to this post but Bern has just released another 200 000 vaccination slots. They are for group A who have not already been vaccinated and group B, not sure if you fall into that category or not but I thought it worth giving you the heads up.
That is very kind of you, I wish.... in group E, but happy to hear others will receive them and things are moving a bit.
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