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I am in group E and just managed to make two appointments for my vaccination. I stated that I had diabetes type 2 on my registration. Do I need a form from my doctor?

Any help much appreciated!

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Yes. Contact your GP and tell them you’ve made an appointment and you need a medical attestation/certification. I’d tell your doctor what you put on the form. After my husband scheduled his appointment, I emailed our GP (because he is crap at dealing with email), and told her that we put high blood pressure on the form and living with an at risk person over 65 (me). Or GP just emailed back, said she was glad he got an appointment and she’d send the attestation to us by post. I think lots of docs are glad their patients are getting appointments. I hope your GP will do the same. Good luck!
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Old 31.03.2021, 22:06
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For Zurich, the AlertSwiss app said that there will be about 78,000 appointments for corona vaxes, and is allowing groups A-E to register for an appointment.
Thanks, my wife (group C) now has an appointment for 23rd April, seems to be moving well now.
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Old 31.03.2021, 22:12
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Yes. Contact your GP and tell them you’ve made an appointment and you need a medical attestation/certification. I’d tell your doctor what you put on the form. After my husband scheduled his appointment, I emailed our GP (because he is crap at dealing with email), and told her that we put high blood pressure on the form and living with an at risk person over 65 (me). Or GP just emailed back, said she was glad he got an appointment and she’d send the attestation to us by post. I think lots of docs are glad their patients are getting appointments. I hope your GP will do the same. Good luck!
Ah thank you so much for your help. Do you know if there is an administrative charge for the certificate? I only ask because my husband will also need a certificate for his deep vein thrombosis.

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Ah thank you so much for your help. Do you know if there is an administrative charge for the certificate? I only ask because my husband will also need a certificate for his deep vein thrombosis.

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Darcy
I don’t know. I never thought of it....I wonder if insurance will cover it, since the cost of the vax is supposed to be covered by insurance. I had my vax at my doctor’s office, took the place of someone who cancelled. I had no letter.
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Yes ... because public workers like the police, army, fire department and medical teams have off right? Give me a break ... it is a bloody pandemic. Don’t sign up for the job if you want regular hours.
tbh i think youre mistaking overtime with volunteering i remember when we used to applaud the public sector for working on the front lines but looking back i reckon it was a fever dream.
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Old 01.04.2021, 07:25
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Ah thank you so much for your help. Do you know if there is an administrative charge for the certificate? I only ask because my husband will also need a certificate for his deep vein thrombosis.

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I don’t know. I never thought of it....I wonder if insurance will cover it, since the cost of the vax is supposed to be covered by insurance. I had my vax at my doctor’s office, took the place of someone who cancelled. I had no letter.
I would imagine there will be a fee for it just like when the doctor writes a prescription without an appointment etc.
Some doctors don’t bother to charge for little things like that even though they are entitled to but others do so I guess it will depend on the doctor.

As for the insurance I don’t really know. It will certainly be covered but will be included in the franchise like any other bill unless there is a special code for vaccine related stuff which means it is covered totally by the insurance.
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Old 01.04.2021, 10:22
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If you indicate that you have high blood pressure and that you have long term medical treatment for it you are assigned category E and can make an appointment already. Probably it is valid for many people starting from certain age.

Unfortunately, I have low blood pressure and BMI right in the middle of the normal zone, so I am in group N, the last one.
Yes, same here group N but OH is group E. I'm more worried about him. Our doctor's office has recently started to vaccinate and yeserdaay promised it's gonna be mid. or max. end of April and if something opens up earlier they'll let us know. I'll have to ask again if they also included me and if not register on that site..
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Yes ... because public workers like the police, army, fire department and medical teams have off right? Give me a break ... it is a bloody pandemic. Don’t sign up for the job if you want regular hours.
We are frustrated, they are frustrated too...but nothing is gonna change because of that. Better look at the bright side of things: we have waited a year for this nightmare to end...What's one or two more months? I know, I know, it doesn't function all the time, just trying to lift your spirit up.

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Old 01.04.2021, 10:32
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Seems possible the number of COVID caused deaths is underreported, according to a BMJ study.
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Over a follow-up period of 140 days, nearly a third of individuals who were discharged from hospital after acute covid-19 were readmitted (14 060 of 47 780) and more than 1 in 10 (5875) died after discharge.

The increase in risk was not confined to the elderly and was not uniform across ethnicities.
I assume patients who were cured of COVID but whose bodies were so severely damaged that they died within 3 months of leaving the hospital are not reported as COVID deaths.

Edit: that is an average of 42 deaths per day which more than 10% of the UK average daily COVID death rate of ca. 360.

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Old 01.04.2021, 10:41
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Seems possible the number of COVID caused deaths is underreported, according to a BMJ study.


I assume patients who were cured of COVID but whose bodies were so severely damaged they died within 3 months of leaving hospital are not reported as COVID deaths.
Thats because of 'died with covid', not 'from covid' has been the situation from day 1. Very difficult to say either way.
In Malta they boosted figures by getting pos results after death when 48 hours before they were negative. Do enough repetitions with PCR & you will get extra positives WHO recommend 35.
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Real life example of how f---ed up AZ reputation is now: My mother asking whether my dad (71 yrs) should get AZ, first shot scheduled for Friday.

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Seems possible the number of COVID caused deaths is underreported, according to a BMJ study.


I assume patients who were cured of COVID but whose bodies were so severely damaged that they died within 3 months of leaving the hospital are not reported as COVID deaths.

Edit: that is an average of 42 deaths per day which more than 10% of the UK average daily COVID death rate of ca. 360.
In the UK the number of reported Covid deaths is very similar to the excess mortality.

On one hand given the pressure on hospitals one could expect that non Covid mortality is likely to have risen suggesting they are probably slightly overestimating Covid deaths.

On the other hand people who died from Covid didn't die of something else suggesting that non Covid mortality would be lower.

Overall I think figure is about right. It's not actually possible to come up with a fully accurate picture as there will be borderline cases where people's death (already expected imminently) was hastened by Covid.

Eg at 100 Tom Moore was already in hospital with pneumonia then caught Covid. My sister who is a senior hospital pharmacist says that generally speaking you would not expect a 100 year old to recover from pneumonia - it would normally be fatal.

Notably quite most countries have an official death figure well below excess mortality which suggests they are indeed underestimating deaths - just not the UK.
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Old 01.04.2021, 13:12
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We are frustrated, they are frustrated too...but nothing is gonna change because of that. Better look at the bright side of things: we have waited a year for this nightmare to end...What's one or two more months? I know, I know, it doesn't function all the time, just trying to lift your spirit up.
Thank-you for trying ... but the guy on the phone said several more months, not just 1 or 2, which I could deal with & expected already. I’m sorry I just can’t accept that I get f@€ked simply for living in the wrong canton... I have been so good and considerate during this entire pandemic... this really makes me angry & I give up. I’m just going to start living my life.
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Old 01.04.2021, 13:24
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Thank-you for trying ... but the guy on the phone said several more months, not just 1 or 2, which I could deal with & expected already. I’m sorry I just can’t accept that I get f@€ked simply for living in the wrong canton... I have been so good and considerate during this entire pandemic... this really makes me angry & I give up. I’m just going to start living my life.
Understand your frustration but taking it out on yourself is likely to be more painful.

My GP phoned this morning but I was still in bed, so I am guessing he has had his vaccine delivery.
I phoned back but just got an answerphone message "Closed for Easter".
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Thats because of 'died with covid', not 'from covid' has been the situation from day 1. Very difficult to say either way.
In Malta they boosted figures by getting pos results after death when 48 hours before they were negative. Do enough repetitions with PCR & you will get extra positives WHO recommend 35.
I do not understand the benefit of trying to underplay the number of COVId deaths.
Currently, the official figure for UK is ca. 150K.
To take a silly example, suppose it was only 100K dead then how would that improve anything? It would still be a very very serious pandemic.
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Old 01.04.2021, 13:31
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Understand your frustration but taking it out on yourself is likely to be more painful.

My GP phoned this morning but I was still in bed, so I am guessing he has had his vaccine delivery.
I phoned back but just got an answerphone message "Closed for Easter".
"The early bird ....."
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Re: Coronavirus

Todays published numbers 1968 out of 56 k tests

81 hospitalisations
7* (32) death

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229

Compared to last week thursday

2046 out of 42 k tests

74 hospitalisations
11 death


*We have adjusted the figures for deaths as of today. They have been supplemented with late, incorrect and duplicate reports from the period from november 2020 to february 2021. For this reason an additional 25 deaths are included under “Difference to previous day”.
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Oh Susie, dont let a guy who gave you a snotty answer bring you down. You almost reached the finish line, hang in there.
I understand your frustration, I am currently fighting for an appointment for hubby. His condition is not listed since the majority affected are older hence already (hopefully) vaccinated. So hes slipping through an admin crack..
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Todays published numbers 1968 out of 56 k tests

81 hospitalisations
32 death

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229

Compared to last week thursday

2046 out of 42 k tests

74 hospitalisations
11 death
25 of those deaths are previously unreported deaths over the past few months so the death number is not as bad as it looks.
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...Or GP just emailed back, said she was glad he got an appointment and she’d send the attestation to us by post. I think lots of docs are glad their patients are getting appointments. I hope your GP will do the same. Good luck!
That was my experience also. I'd sent my doc a polite email a few weeks ago about Covid and had a rude response, so I was hesitant about contacting them again but in fact they responded within an hour or so, saying they'd send me the Attest in the post. I had the distinct feeling that they were happy to take the opportunity to get another moaner off their hands!

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I just called the canton of Bern and they said it will be several months before my risk group will be vaccinated. I am so angry I cannot see straight ... in Zurich, my risk group is already able to schedule appointments & Berset promised April....
Hang on a mo, Susie. Totally understand your disappointment and frustration but let's look at this rationally. What risk group are you in? If the same group is being vaccinated in ZH, you must be in C,D or E? If so, I'm pretty certain that you won't have to wait months -- unless Bern has made no arrangements yet for setting up vax centres. If you were in a rural Kanton I'd understand it more but Bern? I suspect you spoke to someone who was either a bit stupid or just in a very grumpy mood. Please don't despair, I'm sure this will be much better than you think.
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I dont know which group you are in, but now group C can register in Bern.

https://www.bernerzeitung.ch/coronav...n-429171943512

"The canton of Bern will continuously activate 90,000 vaccination appointments over the next few days. This means that 45,000 people can register for a first and a second appointment."

https://www.blick.ch/schweiz/bern/90...d16434117.html
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I dont know which group you are in, but now group C can register in Bern.

https://www.bernerzeitung.ch/coronav...n-429171943512

"The canton of Bern will continuously activate 90,000 vaccination appointments over the next few days. This means that 45,000 people can register for a first and a second appointment."

https://www.blick.ch/schweiz/bern/90...d16434117.html
I am in E ... thank-you so much - this does make me feel better. The person I spoke with was very rude & almost seemed to delight in upsetting me. I know we Americans aren’t very liked these days ... husband called back and spoke with a woman in Swiss German who said almost the same, but nicer. She said they had just started to vaccinate ... which I know isn’t true. I guess it isn’t an easy job, but I wish they had a wee bit more empathy or politeness.

I will calm down and phone my GP when she is back next week - she is very helpful & hopefully we can figure this all out. Happy so many of you have gotten appointments.

Thanks a lot for your kind words everybody ... been nice to vent on here. I wish you a wonderful Easter holiday and please enjoy this lovely Spring weather.

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