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Do they cover their mouth with their hand or arm at least? And use hand sanitizer afterword? The alternative is quite gross - or perhaps I am the only one who has a nose like a strong faucet during this time of the year.
No, he didn't cover his mouth. He was in the middle of the shop and and I was watching him from some distance (lol, I became one of those people ). But seriously, he was annoying. He could have just sneaked out till the sneezing episode passed.
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Interesting, especially about dialysis
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1830372.html
Are they gonna finetune it to detect Sputnik, too?
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Are they gonna finetune it to detect Sputnik, too?
hope so. also dialysis after sputnik would be helpful
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hope so. also dialysis after sputnik would be helpful
They are already running blood outside of the body to oxygenate it, to give the lungs a break with quite a few severe CV affected patients.

I saw last night that Pfizer might be ineffective against a mutated SA strain. We might be in for a coctail of sput/az/pfiz/mod, give it a few months.
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Re: Coronavirus

I just thought that maybe I registered to the wrong category. If my husband is in the last subgroup from the first priority group "Besonders gefährdete Personen (BGP)"/"Particularly vulnerable people", I probably qualify as "Leben zusammen mit BGP zwischen 18–49 Jahre alt"/"Living together with particularly vulnerable people 18-49"? What do you think?

I know there is another person in this thread who lives with someone from group E and qualified in group N. Maybe we both should be in the group I, not in N?
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Old 13.04.2021, 09:14
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I was bagging up my groceries in Migros a few days ago and the woman who was being rung up by the cashier actually took her mask off when she sneezed.
And?

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Old 13.04.2021, 09:20
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And?

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And I saw a person in the mall who dared to be closer to me than the bulletproof 1.5m. I did sleep ok after that.
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Re: Coronavirus

If an unaffected person has a sneezing fit they are not going to pass along viruses, bacteria or germs. But, of course, you have no idea if they are healthy or not.

As a long time hay fever sufferer I can emphasize with these people. It is impossible to predict when these fits are going to occur, or even how many sneezes will be involved. I always try and make a distance from others when these occur but that isn’t always possible. Sneezing into your sleeve doesn’t make that much sense to me, you can always easily disinfect your hands (and disinfectant is readily available in public) but disinfecting your sleeve not so easy.

So yes seeing a sneezing fit is disconcerting but they are not doing it on purpose and it is impossible to stop
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So yes seeing a sneezing fit is disconcerting but they are not doing it on purpose and it is impossible to stop
Of course not, but they can cover their mouth/nose, right? That was the point, we all know what a sneezing fit is. It wouldn't have normally "disconcerted" me but we have to be much more cautious now. If I come to think about it, there isn't any time when one shouldn't cover their mouth or nose when coughing or sneezing. Common sense rules.
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Old 13.04.2021, 10:20
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NYT, April 13, 1955. Life was simpler, vaccines only contained microfilms. People say baby Bill Gates got it and this was the trigger for becoming the evil mastermind than wants to make us walking 5G antennas.

What happened? It seems there was a time when fighting microbes was cool. Today, you should distrust institutions, think for yourself, eat healthy, stay positive and take your daily chlorine dioxide drops

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Old 13.04.2021, 11:01
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Interesting, especially about dialysis
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1830372.html
Fascinating.
How on earth do they filter out something so tiny as the virus without removing stuff you need in your blood? Clearly it works.
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Old 13.04.2021, 11:28
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Fascinating.
How on earth do they filter out something so tiny as the virus without removing stuff you need in your blood? Clearly it works.
Dual porosity media and some electrochemistry

I have to work, can people working in pharma translate this to plain English? https://cytosorbents.com/products/cyto-sorb/

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A CytoSorb® cartridge is filled with CytoSorbents’ proprietary hemocompatible, porous polymer beads that are roughly the size of grains of salt. The dimensions of the pores in each bead are specifically designed so that large objects such as blood cells go around the bead while small objects like electrolytes pass through it. However, appropriately sized substances are captured and trapped inside the bead’s pores and channels via pore capture and surface adsorption and are permanently eliminated from blood. In particular, hydrophobic substances are preferentially adsorbed to the hydrophobic polymer beads. CytoSorb® has been optimized to broadly remove many cytokines, toxins and other inflammatory mediators in the “cytokine sweet spot”, a 5-60 kDa molecular weight range where most cytokines reside.
PS. wait a min...this therapy has been approved for emergency in COVID patients used since April 13, 2020. Exactly a year ago. Why only 300 patients? https://cytosorbents.com/us-fda-auth...-use-covid-19/
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Old 13.04.2021, 12:18
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Dual porosity media and some electrochemistry

I have to work, can people working in pharma translate this to plain English? https://cytosorbents.com/products/cyto-sorb/

PS. wait a min...this therapy has been approved for emergency in COVID patients used since April 13, 2020. Exactly a year ago. Why only 300 patients? https://cytosorbents.com/us-fda-auth...-use-covid-19/
Thanks, that is very clear to me. I did study physics a very long time ago which helped with the long words.

Your link says " more than 5,000 critically ill patients with COVID-19 infection have been treated with CytoSorb in 30 countries." not 300.
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Thanks, that is very clear to me. I did study physics a very long time ago which helped with the long words.

Your link says " more than 5,000 critically ill patients with COVID-19 infection have been treated with CytoSorb in 30 countries." not 300.
I retained the 300 patients from the Independent article I could not find the 5,000 in both links, can you point to it?

If I understood well, the technology was developed by a DARPA subcontractor starting on 2017-2018, well before COVID. The 5K patients are from cardiac surgery were post-surgery complications seem to be similar to what COVID does. They had in their minds fighting these ones (sepsis and infection, trauma, burn injury, severe lung injury, liver failure, pancreatitis, influenza, cytokine release syndrome), then the pandemic came.
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Old 13.04.2021, 12:50
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I would assume the procedure requires special equipment so is expensive and not widely available.
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I would assume the procedure requires special equipment so is expensive and not widely available.
The developer is a NASDAQ listed company. So, a failure of capitalism to meet high demand of plug&play filters for normal dialysis machines? I don't think so.

Maybe the treatment is not as miraculous as journalists describe it. Maybe it's a money problem because doctors fear lawsuits, not the cost of the filter.
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Today they opened it up from age 45 and up, as the last tranche did not have high sign up according to what was said in the press.
The uk has pretty much simultaneously opened up to the over 45s. Given the huge disparity in doses given takeup seems to be very poor in Romandie.
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If I understood well, the technology was developed by a DARPA subcontractor starting on 2017-2018, well before COVID. The 5K patients are from

cardiac surgery were post-surgery complications seem to be similar to what COVID does. They had in their minds fighting these ones (sepsis and infection, trauma, burn injury, severe lung injury, liver failure, pancreatitis, influenza, cytokine release syndrome), then the pandemic came.
It's an idea that's been around for some time. Here's a 2007 article on using blood filtering for HN51:

https://bioe.umd.edu/news/story/viru...flu-treatments

And 2014 for Ebola (the Aethlon Hemopurifier):

https://time.com/3586271/ebola-treat...ialysis-blood/

It's also been used for hepatitis C, HIV and metastatic cancers.
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The uk has pretty much simultaneously opened up to the over 45s. Given the huge disparity in doses given takeup seems to be very poor in Romandie.
Neuchâtel hasn’t yet, we’re still on over 55s but younger people do appear to be more reticent about signing up for it.
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I retained the 300 patients from the Independent article I could not find the 5,000 in both links, can you point to it?

If I understood well, the technology was developed by a DARPA subcontractor starting on 2017-2018, well before COVID. The 5K patients are from cardiac surgery were post-surgery complications seem to be similar to what COVID does. They had in their minds fighting these ones (sepsis and infection, trauma, burn injury, severe lung injury, liver failure, pancreatitis, influenza, cytokine release syndrome), then the pandemic came.
Here is the link to 5,000.
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