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Old 22.04.2021, 13:15
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The mandatory health insurance covers the cost of the antigen test. Just bring the card.
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Yes, but there is still the deductable.

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<<As of March 15, 2021, the government will cover the costs for all Rapid Antigen Tests. This means that you can now be tested with these tests free of charge even if you do not have any Coronavirus symptoms.>>

So no, it's not the health insurance that covers the cost for the antigen tests but the tax-payer..
And therefore no there will not be the deductable.

I guess you need to bring the health-insurance info to stop you from getting that free test taken every week, just like you do for picking up your 5-a-month-tests from the pharmacy.
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Old 22.04.2021, 13:21
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TinyK, referring to your post about the second wave in Moscow and 50% deaths increase. In Switzerland in November-December there was the increase from just over 1000 deaths per week (expected) to 2000, this is about 70%. Moscow did better, right?
I never claimed that Switzerland did a good job in managing the pandemic. Also don't forget that Switzerland has higher percentage of very old people and many live together in the elderly homes which is not the case for ex-USSR region. Someone calculated that the average age of the person died from covid in Russia is 67-68 years, while in CH it would be well over 80 (71% of victims are 80+). In other words, most of the corona victims in CH would have been dead long before if the lived in Russia.

I think CH did relatively good job considering the location, border situation, age of the population etc but there were definitely points of improvement. Mostly in protecting the older rather than in medical care while it's hard to cure the person over 80 if they catch Corona.
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Old 22.04.2021, 13:29
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Re: Coronavirus

Germany is taking the leap with a 30 M Sputnik order.

https://www.20min.ch/story/deutschla...n-705559376026
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Old 22.04.2021, 13:54
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I never claimed that Switzerland did a good job in managing the pandemic. Also don't forget that Switzerland has higher percentage of very old people and many live together in the elderly homes which is not the case for ex-USSR region. Someone calculated that the average age of the person died from covid in Russia is 67-68 years, while in CH it would be well over 80 (71% of victims are 80+). In other words, most of the corona victims in CH would have been dead long before if the lived in Russia.

I think CH did relatively good job considering the location, border situation, age of the population etc but there were definitely points of improvement. Mostly in protecting the older rather than in medical care while it's hard to cure the person over 80 if they catch Corona.
Indeed, the average life expectancy here is 83 years vs 72 in Russia.
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Old 22.04.2021, 14:08
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Indeed, the average life expectancy here is 83 years vs 72 in Russia.
For male even worse, 65 against 81.
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Old 22.04.2021, 14:10
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Re: Coronavirus

Todays published numbers 2265 out of 28 k tests

69 (107*) hospitalisations
12 (42*) death

* Adjusted number from previous days

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229

Compared to last week thursday

2226 out of 31 k tests

115 hospitalisations
4 (17*) death
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Old 22.04.2021, 14:13
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Todays published numbers 2265 out of 28 k tests

107 hospitalisations
42 death

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229
The hospitalisation and death figures have been inflated by them adding in all the previously unreported numbers.
38 hospitalisations and 30 deaths are older cases.
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Old 22.04.2021, 14:20
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@leonie, but that's the challenge - if you're not assigning the increment to covid (in medical stats at least), then to what?
Lockdown?
Probably most of it is Covid, but the number might be different from those "died with/from Covid" numbers.
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Old 22.04.2021, 14:22
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Todays published numbers 2265 out of 28 k tests

69 (107*) hospitalisations
12 (42*) death

* Adjusted number from previous days

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229

Compared to last week thursday

2226 out of 31 k tests

115 hospitalisations
4 (17*) death
Percentage of positives is 8%
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Old 22.04.2021, 14:39
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Checked whether "Rent a Rentner" hasn't picked up on it yet?


(There is a map on the bottom of the homepage, where you can chose your area)
That has got to be one of the most badly designed "helpful" websites, ever.
But the idea behind it is excellent!
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Old 22.04.2021, 15:24
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Because they praised China managing the pandemic in January and adviced against "international isolation" of China even after some of the local outbreaks in Europe were already linked to the visitors from China. The world paid the high price for the WHO's blind faith in everything China said to them in Dec and Jan.

In the next pandemic nobody will believe their tales or follow their advices and would act immediately.
IMO that's just a useless blame-game using hindsight, in order to put blame on whomever one prefers to get blame assigned to. Provided blame's not put on "us".

IIRC Germany had the first known infections from a Chinese contractor, who arrived in february. Why didn't anybody in-the-know call for a quarantine of the entire population of the affected German towns? Why should the reaction have been any different weeks or months earlier elsewhere?

Sars-CoV-2 DNA has been found in wastewater samples taken as early as mid-december in Milano and Torino (but not in those from mid-november and mid-october), and in samples from Bologna taken mid-january (but not earlier). Italian researchers have found Sars-CoV-2 antibodies in blood samples taken as early as september 2019 when they tested samples originally taken as part of a cancer study.

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The BBC said, in may 2020 no less, "Coronavirus: France's first known case 'was in December'"

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Old 22.04.2021, 21:02
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Nope, not for those tests at the moment. The cost is 100% covered unless it is for travel purposes and then you just have to pay for the travel certificate which is 10 or 15 chf.
Just to make sure we're clear though - this only applies to the rapid test, right?

If you need a PCR to travel you still have to pay whatever the fee is (last time I saw 160-180 CHF per person)?
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Old 22.04.2021, 21:13
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The BBC said, in may 2020 no less, "Coronavirus: France's first known case 'was in December'"
There is a large no of long haul British Airways Pilots & cabin crew that live in Chamonix & fly out of Heathrow. I know several who were ill in January with COVID, of course they only knew it when testing became available later & they had antibodies. I believe itt was in town before a reported early outbreak, just down the road from our new home (You have to pass with in 100m of our front door to get there) https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51425702
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Old 22.04.2021, 21:23
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Just to make sure we're clear though - this only applies to the rapid test, right?

If you need a PCR to travel you still have to pay whatever the fee is (last time I saw 160-180 CHF per person)?
That’s correct.
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Old 22.04.2021, 21:42
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There is a large no of long haul British Airways Pilots & cabin crew that live in Chamonix & fly out of Heathrow. I know several who were ill in January with COVID, of course they only knew it when testing became available later & they had antibodies. I believe itt was in town before a reported early outbreak, just down the road from our new home (You have to pass with in 100m of our front door to get there) https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51425702
The keyword here is "reported". The first European case in France was reported on 24 Jan.

Later on, earlier cases were discovered and then reported.
It is still not clear exactly when the virus reached Europe but probably a ban on China contact by WHO or anyone else would have been too late in December.
A study from Milan's National Cancer Institute found that four of Italy's coronavirus cases dated back to October 2019.
A recent study found coronavirus antibodies in blood samples collected from 23 Italians in September 2019 and 27 in October 2019.
A study from researchers at Harvard University did find more people were visiting Wuhan hospitals in the latter half of 2019.
They saw an uptick starting in August 2019, which peaked six months later.
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That’s correct.
If you have symptoms or the home test is positive, do you still need to pay for the proper PCR test, or is it covered?
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It is still not clear exactly when the virus reached Europe but probably a ban on China contact by WHO or anyone else would have been too late in December.
In late January 2020 we went to the Marrakesh marathon, and the hotel was full of Chinese tourists. It was also full of people from Europe participating in the marathon. The ban on China contact from December was not only too late, but also not enough because people kept traveling and contacting.
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Re: Coronavirus

A not so desirable catch-up growth:

India's posts world record daily COVID cases for second straight day
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/india-s...t-day/46559116
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A not so desirable catch-up growth:

India's posts world record daily COVID cases for second straight day
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/india-s...t-day/46559116
It's a huge country of course, but the growth looks scary and numbers are probably hugely underestimated. What I can read about this variant also doesn't sound too promising.
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If you have symptoms or the home test is positive, do you still need to pay for the proper PCR test, or is it covered?
It's covered.
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