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they have to do the vaccination mandatory or sit in lockdowns forever, since virus will be here forever
I don't think they'll make this vaccine mandatory. People will feel pressured only if they want to travel. It would be more efficient to get people on board with vaccination voluntarily, but I guess too many read the alternative 'science' on the internet and decide against it. Kind of hard to fight that. So yeah, it will last forever.
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Old 29.04.2021, 07:51
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zero covid strategy kind of oppose to
they have to do the vaccination mandatory or sit in lockdowns forever, since virus will be here forever
but India!
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Old 29.04.2021, 07:58
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Re: Coronavirus

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The government is proposing a path to reallow large events. The idea would be to permit events with up to 3,000 people from July and then 10,000 from September.

The government would also underwrite costs if health conditions mean an event has to be cancelled once it had already been authorized. It would allow organisers to start planning with a safety net.

Those attending are likely to have to show a certificate to prove they’ve been vaccinated, or recovered from covid or have a negative test.
Those under 16 would be exempt.

The idea is not finalized. The plan is being sent to the cantons for consultation. A decision could be made by mid-May.

But organisers say it’s now too late to save many events this year which have already been cancelled. ’
I think we will soon see a decline in Vaccine hesitancy.

https://www.worldradio.ch/news/bites...ts-once-again/
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Old 29.04.2021, 08:27
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What kind of overreaction was mentioned by the BAG lady? How often did they observe it?
She mentioned some usual reactions like pain in the arm, fever, muscle pain etc but no details about how oven it happened.
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Old 29.04.2021, 08:28
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they have to do the vaccination mandatory or sit in lockdowns forever, since virus will be here forever
They won’t actually make vaccination mandatory but in reality if they make things difficult for unvaccinated people they are essentially doing just that.

People who choose not to get vaccinated will be choosing to not do things that vaccinated people will be able to do.
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Old 29.04.2021, 08:34
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I thought it would be so for my husband too who is an "I" - but Bern opened it up yesterday to that group. Hang in there TinyK - ZH is doing a pretty good job from what I've seen.
Thanks. I noticed that the changes are published on the website few hours before I get an alert via AlertSwiss, so it's worth checking the website every day.
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They won’t actually make vaccination mandatory but in reality if they make things difficult for unvaccinated people they are essentially doing just that.
They want to have a common solution for vaccinated/recovered/tested and the service provider won't be able to check what your status is among this three, they will just know that you are not infectious at the moment when your QR code is checked. Also they are proving the possibility to have a self-test immediately before entering some event as an alternative to QR code.

One of the current issues is that you will be considered recovered only 3 months after the illness but you cannot have a vaccine before 6 months (if you are not a vulnerable person). So you have 3 months gap in-between.
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Old 29.04.2021, 09:59
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I don't think they'll make this vaccine mandatory.
then its pretty naive to expect that virus will gone by itself
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People will feel pressured only if they want to travel.
I dont hear any meow from that side regarding lockdowns. so they are fine with that. probably NZ has unlimited budget
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It would be more efficient to get people on board with vaccination voluntarily, but I guess too many read the alternative 'science' on the internet and decide against it. Kind of hard to fight that. So yeah, it will last forever.
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Old 29.04.2021, 11:39
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Re: Coronavirus

to know what's it like at the end of the road, best case study as below:

https://www.indiatoday.in/diu/story/...188-2021-04-26
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Old 29.04.2021, 11:45
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to know what's it like at the end of the road, best case study as below:

https://www.indiatoday.in/diu/story/...188-2021-04-26
So, 55% of vaccine coverage enough to cause a significant drop in cases? Not bad.



PS. that's why the cantons delivering the vaccine to anyone interested is a positive development. Let's bring the vaccination coverage % up, doesn't matter if the vaccine does not go to a 60+ YO person. What matter is reducing new cases.

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Old 29.04.2021, 11:46
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They want to have a common solution for vaccinated/recovered/tested and the service provider won't be able to check what your status is among this three, they will just know that you are not infectious at the moment when your QR code is checked. Also they are proving the possibility to have a self-test immediately before entering some event as an alternative to QR code.

One of the current issues is that you will be considered recovered only 3 months after the illness but you cannot have a vaccine before 6 months (if you are not a vulnerable person). So you have 3 months gap in-between.
This sounds like a really nice solution, people have the option either to get vaccinated or tested, and this is kept private. Hopefully this could be organized well.
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Old 29.04.2021, 11:49
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then its pretty naive to expect that virus will gone by itself
Viruses do go away by themselves... The death toll might be very high if they go away naturally, but eventually pandemics do come to the end. I hope that Covid will be history very soon.
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Old 29.04.2021, 11:53
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Ugh this kind of stuff really makes me mad ...

Switzerland is far more lenient than any of our country neighbours, vaccinations are finally rolling out to get us out of this mess, have they not seen the news from India?, and I mainly see grey heads bopping about during this idiotic flash dance (cringe).

Hundreds are dancing to the anthem against the Corona measures in the Basel train station

https://www.20min.ch/story/hunderte-...n-475847362074

Meanwhile a few cyclists for climate change measures were hit with water canons in Bern ...

In other news, I work closely with our offices in Bangalore - several colleagues and their entire families are down with Covid-19, it really is a true disaster.
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Old 29.04.2021, 11:59
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Viruses do go away by themselves...

I hope that Covid will be history very soon.
Really, Dr. Leonie? Tell that to the influenza virus.
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Old 29.04.2021, 12:05
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Hundreds are dancing to the anthem against the Corona measures in the Basel train station

https://www.20min.ch/story/hunderte-...n-475847362074
It was not between 22h00 and 7h00 so no one was disturbed, so 100% ethical according to the war on noise made by locals

I guess if you made the same in front of their houses, blocking their street, they happily call the police.....but all public transport users must tolerate them. Love the double standards of old people.
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Viruses do go away by themselves... The death toll might be very high if they go away naturally, but eventually pandemics do come to the end. I hope that Covid will be history very soon.
Um no, this isn't going away ... perhaps it will eventually be less deadly and develop into a sort of common cold, but it is not going anywhere. Covid will not be history very soon... we still have a long battle ahead of us. In my opinion, with globalization, Covid-19 will not be the last pandemic we will experience in our life times.
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What I find strange is that the number of daily deaths is not that much different in CH and Israel (similar population size) right now.
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Todays numbers
2066 from 29k tests
86* hospitalisations
18* deaths

last weeks published numbers 2265 out of 28 k tests

69 (107*) hospitalisations
12 (42*) death

* Adjusted number from previous days

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Really, Dr. Leonie? Tell that to the influenza virus.
Spanish influenza virus did go away, right? At least its deadly form is long gone. Maybe the same will happen to Coronavirus, and it will become something like a seasonal cold. You seem to dislike this possibility
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Old 29.04.2021, 14:18
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What I find strange is that the number of daily deaths is not that much different in CH and Israel (similar population size) right now.
Deaths are a lagging indicator so in Israel could be a while before they fall.
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