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Old 11.05.2021, 13:30
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Having covid was supposed to provide very little protection from catching it again, now it's claimed that having covid is better protection than the vaccination. 9 months sounds plausible.
I was not claiming it is not plausible, I just wondered where it came from.

So far the only Offical statement I have seen is "over 6 mnths".

I have not seen any reputable claims that "having covid is better protection than the vaccination". I have seen that covid + vaccination gives very good protection.
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Re: Coronavirus

Todays published numbers 1375 out of 24 k tests

73 hospitalisations
4 death

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229

Compared to last week tuesday

1633 out of 22 k tests

65 hospitalisations
13 death
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I spoke too soon! About 100 hours after having the injection my left elbow became very sore & I could hardly move my arm at all, been for a massage this morning, still sore but I can move it a bit.
shouldn't you skip 2nd doze in case of previous infection?
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I was not claiming it is not plausible, I just wondered where it came from.

So far the only Offical statement I have seen is "over 6 mnths".

I have not seen any reputable claims that "having covid is better protection than the vaccination". I have seen that covid + vaccination gives very good protection.
My friend got hit twice in span of 6-months - clearly it may varry
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Old 11.05.2021, 18:53
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shouldn't you skip 2nd doze in case of previous infection?
Depends if you want 'fully vaccinated' state, who knows what the rules will be in 2 - 6 months time.
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Old 11.05.2021, 20:03
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Re: Coronavirus

Good news.
According to an online questionnaire by the university of Zürich, 80% of the people here want to be (or are) vaccinated, look here (German language).

Three weeks ago it was only 64%.
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Good news.
According to an online questionnaire by the university of Zürich, 80% of the people here want to be (or are) vaccinated, look here (German language).

Three weeks ago it was only 64%.
Great news. You can see from the statistics that older people are still getting vaccinated in significant numbers each week even though they could have been done by now. Evidently they are slowly coming round to the idea.
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Possible. I think it is one of the questions where people tend to answer yes because that is considered the politically correct answer. Although I think the practical benefit of having some form of passport and not having to test all the time might win people over.
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Possible. I think it is one of the questions where people tend to answer yes because that is considered the politically correct answer. Although I think the practical benefit of having some form of passport and not having to test all the time might win people over.
Theres going to be an interesting balancing act of not torturing the unvaccinated so much there's complaints we turn into a police state, but just enough all but the hard core give in and get their vaccination.
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Great news. You can see from the statistics that older people are still getting vaccinated in significant numbers each week even though they could should have been done by now. Evidently they are slowly coming round to the idea.
In my view, the reason that older people are still getting vaccinated is because of the extremely poor administration, at least in canton Zürich.
They did a good of vaccinating people in old people's homes but for the rest, unless you were computer literate and mentally alert there was no proper follow-up or proactive action to ensure older people had vaccination appointments.

In my case, a couple of months ago I received a flyer from the local Gemeinde that said "do nothing, wait for an invitation" and I have heard nothing since despite the fact I will be 80 next year.

Anyway solely thanks to my own initiative I had my second jab today, so far everything OK.
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Old 11.05.2021, 20:33
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Possible. I think it is one of the questions where people tend to answer yes because that is considered the politically correct answer. Although I think the practical benefit of having some form of passport and not having to test all the time might win people over.
So why did the "yes's" rise from 64% to 80% in three weeks; people got more politically correct in that time?
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So why did the "yes's" rise from 64% to 80% in three weeks; people got more politically correct in that time?
Good question. There is much more talk about vaccinations now, so might be general awareness or indeed the feel that a jab is close. Let's hope for high share of people taking it, but looking at places like the US, France, SEE makes me doubt.
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In my view, the reason that older people are still getting vaccinated is because of the extremely poor administration, at least in canton Zürich.
They did a good of vaccinating people in old people's homes but for the rest, unless you were computer literate and mentally alert there was no proper follow-up or proactive action to ensure older people had vaccination appointments.

In my case, a couple of months ago I received a flyer from the local Gemeinde that said "do nothing, wait for an invitation" and I have heard nothing since despite the fact I will be 80 next year.

Anyway solely thanks to my own initiative I had my second jab today, so far everything OK.
Maybe not the best assumption to make that those most in need of a vaccination meet those criteria.
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Old 11.05.2021, 20:52
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Maybe not the best assumption to make that those most in need of a vaccination meet those criteria.
Of course, they do not meet those criteria which is why I said it is so disappointing that the authorities are not making better efforts to bring those that are not computer literate and mentally alert into the safe zone of vaccination.
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shouldn't you skip 2nd doze in case of previous infection?
I think that would depend on whether or not the person who once had Covid still has decent antibodies. Can't someone have had the virus a year or so ago but no longer have antibodies now?

I've never tested positive for Covid, but my doctor suggested last week that I get an antibodies test to know if I will need the second dose or not. (My antibodies 'score' was very low -- number 7 -- which, according to my doctor's office, means that I probably never had the virus). The antibodies test cost about 50 CHF.
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So why did the "yes's" rise from 64% to 80% in three weeks; people got more politically correct in that time?
I suspect the rapidly increasing number of people running around saying they’ve had the vaccine and no problems might have something to do with it.

There’s an article in the Tagi atm headlined “High vom Impfen” that illustrates this.
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Re: Coronavirus

I just came across an article in The Local. It looks like the easing of more restrictions is expected to be announced tomorrow (Wednesday).

https://www.thelocal.ch/20210511/wil...N3se1rNracw0nw

I guess some are expecting work-from-home orders to be lifted and for all restaurants to be allowed to open and also for people to no longer have to quarantine for 7 or 10 days after entering CH if they've been vaccinated or have had a prior Covid infection. It will be interesting to see what restrictions are actually eased. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing pools opened up soon (assuming the weather will ever improve ).
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I think that would depend on whether or not the person who once had Covid still has decent antibodies. Can't someone have had the virus a year or so ago but no longer have antibodies now?

I've never tested positive for Covid, but my doctor suggested last week that I get an antibodies test to know if I will need the second dose or not. (My antibodies 'score' was very low -- number 7 -- which, according to my doctor's office, means that I probably never had the virus). The antibodies test cost about 50 CHF.
Anything above 1 is considered positive for antibodies. My wife scored 0.09 IIRC.
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I certainly wouldn't mind seeing pools opened up soon (assuming the weather will ever improve ).
Badis are opening already even with current restrictions. In some of them you even don't have to wear masks (except for WC, changing rooms etc).
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Anything above 1 is considered positive for antibodies. My wife scored 0.09 IIRC.
Maybe this depends on the test? I was informed that the lower limit of normal is 0.4:

“ Thanks for participation in the SARS-CoV 2 antibody test. Your result ist still positive and has a quantitative value of > 250 U/ml (norm 0,4 - >250 U/ml).”
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