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1539 cases today (7 days average is -13%)
I hoped it would start coming down a little faster.
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Last weeks numbers below. It's a 15% decrease (day on day reporting). looks good to me!

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Todays published numbers 1795 out of 28 k tests

113 hospitalisations
13 death

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229

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2120 out of 29 k tests

104 hospitalisations
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Last weeks numbers below. It's a 15% decrease (day on day reporting). looks good to me!
That gradient could be a little steeper though, like in our neighboring countries. Still it's moving in the right direction, really want the incidence rate to drop below 50 so travel can resume.

Hospitalization rate and death rate has really gone down a lot so there's little reason for the country not to announce further relaxation measures this afternoon.
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That gradient could be a little steeper though, like in our neighboring countries. Still it's moving in the right direction, really want the incidence rate to drop below 50 so travel can resume.

Hospitalization rate and death rate has really gone down a lot so there's little reason for the country not to announce further relaxation measures this afternoon.
Do you believe it is relevant to compare with our neighbouring countries like comparing Sweden with the other Scandinavian countries?
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1539 cases today (7 days average is -13%)

-18% in hospitalisations and -39% in deaths.

The press conference of the Federal Council will be this afternoon (14:15 or later).
Press conference announced for 15h15 (https://www.admin.ch/gov/de/start.html)
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-18% in hospitalisations and -39% in deaths.

The press conference of the Federal Council will be this afternoon (14:15 or later).
15h15, see below

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That gradient could be a little steeper though, like in our neighboring countries. Still it's moving in the right direction, really want the incidence rate to drop below 50 so travel can resume.

Hospitalization rate and death rate has really gone down a lot so there's little reason for the country not to announce further relaxation measures this afternoon.
I'm caring less about the gradient for the moment and more about getting shots in peoples arms. I've had my first, so it looks like I'll be free to travel by peak summer.
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I'm caring less about the gradient for the moment and more about getting shots in peoples arms. I've had my first, so it looks like I'll be free to travel by peak summer.
Me too, but it depends where you want to travel though. France yesterday voted down vaccine passports, the UK doesn't seem to have any plans to start accepting proof of vaccination in order to enter the country. US seems to be quiet on it too. I believe this summer Covid incidence rate may yet play a significant role.
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Me too, but it depends where you want to travel though. France yesterday voted down vaccine passports, the UK doesn't seem to have any plans to start accepting proof of vaccination in order to enter the country. US seems to be quiet on it too. I believe this summer Covid incidence rate may yet play a significant role.
UK have announced their own NHS Vaccine Passport though so that could change shortly - seems pointless them making this and then not accepting other countries similar apps. This will only work for folks after both vaccinations apparently but its a step in the right direction (my 2nd jab is 12 June).

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57070185
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Re: Coronavirus

And so it begins ... people being stranded abroad even though they were vaccinated: https://www.tio.ch/svizzera/attualit...ssere-svizzera

Stranded in the paradise of the Seychelles: "Yet I am vaccinated".
Troubled return for a 57-year-old man from Zurich after a vacation in the Indian Ocean.
Having tested positive for a swab before his return flight, he had to stay behind and say goodbye to his family. He was left alone on the island without being able to leave the hotel.

ZURICH - Will vaccination be the pass to vacation this summer? Many hope so, but the case of a 57-year-old Zurich seems to prove otherwise. Although his misadventure in the Seychelles, where he was stranded for a week, would perhaps be an enviable fate for some.

The man, whose case was reported today by 20 Minuten, was supposed to fly back to Switzerland from the archipelago in the Indian Ocean last week with his family. But while his wife and children had no problems boarding the plane, things were more complicated for him: the 57-year-old had to stay on the ground and return to his hotel after undergoing a positive Pcr test.

The trouble started two hours before departure. The Swiss-German couple had undergone the swab the day before, at the request of the airline. "The same day my partner and our children received the negative result," the desperate tourist recounts. "As for me, however, nothing. They phoned me just before leaving, telling me I couldn't get on the plane."

Yet the 57-year-old had already received both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. A false positive? Maybe. In any case, local authorities forced the tourist to remain locked in his hotel room. Only after several days, thanks to an intervention of the Swiss Consulate to the government of Seychelles, the man was able to undergo an antigenic test paying 300 euros out of his own pocket.

The result was fortunately negative. "Only then was I allowed to leave the country." When contacted, the FDFA confirmed that it had made contact with the 57-year-old and the local authorities.

The lesson to be learned? "Vaccination does not mean the end of problems for travelers," concludes the unfortunate man, who has since happily returned home to Zurich. Christian Laesser, professor of tourism at the University of St. Gallen, confirms that "travel restrictions will be with us for a while yet, despite the vaccinations." Pcr or antigen tests before departures may still be needed for 6-12 months. "Re-entry quarantine in Switzerland, on the other hand, could be lifted soon."

The problem is that vaccination is immunizing, but it cannot prevent transmission, Laesser recalls: "Uncertainties about travel and the possibility of carrying variants from one country to another remain." More tourism-oriented states, however, may be more lax than others during the summer season.

Greater international coordination could make things easier, and this is not to be ruled out in the coming months: "Travel between certain regions of the world could soon be easy again, for example between Europe and North America," says Laesser. The WHO and national governments are working to arrive quickly at an internationally recognized Covid pass for vaccinated people. "No one wants to be accused of ruining the summer for their citizens," the professor concludes.

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Berset says "the relaxation of measures from last April 14th did not cause an increase of cases".
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UK have announced their own NHS Vaccine Passport though so that could change shortly - seems pointless them making this and then not accepting other countries similar apps. This will only work for folks after both vaccinations apparently but its a step in the right direction (my 2nd jab is 12 June).

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57070185
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“So for the time being, most people will still need to follow other rules when travelling abroad – like getting a negative pre-departure test.”
This is the point I was trying to make. The situation could yet change, but I wouldn't bank yet on being able to get where you want to go just because you've had a vaccine.
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And so it begins ... people being stranded abroad even though they were vaccinated: https://www.tio.ch/svizzera/attualit...ssere-svizzera

Stranded in the paradise of the Seychelles: "Yet I am vaccinated".
Troubled return for a 57-year-old man from Zurich after a vacation in the Indian Ocean.
Having tested positive for a swab before his return flight, he had to stay behind and say goodbye to his family. He was left alone on the island without being able to leave the hotel.

ZURICH - Will vaccination be the pass to vacation this summer? Many hope so, but the case of a 57-year-old Zurich seems to prove otherwise. Although his misadventure in the Seychelles, where he was stranded for a week, would perhaps be an enviable fate for some.

The man, whose case was reported today by 20 Minuten, was supposed to fly back to Switzerland from the archipelago in the Indian Ocean last week with his family. But while his wife and children had no problems boarding the plane, things were more complicated for him: the 57-year-old had to stay on the ground and return to his hotel after undergoing a positive Pcr test.

The trouble started two hours before departure. The Swiss-German couple had undergone the swab the day before, at the request of the airline. "The same day my partner and our children received the negative result," the desperate tourist recounts. "As for me, however, nothing. They phoned me just before leaving, telling me I couldn't get on the plane."

Yet the 57-year-old had already received both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. A false positive? Maybe. In any case, local authorities forced the tourist to remain locked in his hotel room. Only after several days, thanks to an intervention of the Swiss Consulate to the government of Seychelles, the man was able to undergo an antigenic test paying 300 euros out of his own pocket.

The result was fortunately negative. "Only then was I allowed to leave the country." When contacted, the FDFA confirmed that it had made contact with the 57-year-old and the local authorities.

The lesson to be learned? "Vaccination does not mean the end of problems for travelers," concludes the unfortunate man, who has since happily returned home to Zurich. Christian Laesser, professor of tourism at the University of St. Gallen, confirms that "travel restrictions will be with us for a while yet, despite the vaccinations." Pcr or antigen tests before departures may still be needed for 6-12 months. "Re-entry quarantine in Switzerland, on the other hand, could be lifted soon."

The problem is that vaccination is immunizing, but it cannot prevent transmission, Laesser recalls: "Uncertainties about travel and the possibility of carrying variants from one country to another remain." More tourism-oriented states, however, may be more lax than others during the summer season.

Greater international coordination could make things easier, and this is not to be ruled out in the coming months: "Travel between certain regions of the world could soon be easy again, for example between Europe and North America," says Laesser. The WHO and national governments are working to arrive quickly at an internationally recognized Covid pass for vaccinated people. "No one wants to be accused of ruining the summer for their citizens," the professor concludes.

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None of this is a surprise though - vaccination in no way is suitable for air travel currently so they should have ensured they had the test results well before they needed to go to the airport. There's a lot of whinging on there but anyone travelling now knows they need a negative test to get on a plane.

Until widely approved mechanisms such as vaccine passports are accepted then you're still looking at getting tests both ways to travel at least in the next few months.
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And so it begins ... people being stranded abroad even though they were vaccinated: https://www.tio.ch/svizzera/attualit...ssere-svizzera

Stranded in the paradise of the Seychelles: "Yet I am vaccinated".
Troubled return for a 57-year-old man from Zurich after a vacation in the Indian Ocean.
Having tested positive for a swab before his return flight, he had to stay behind and say goodbye to his family. He was left alone on the island without being able to leave the hotel.

ZURICH - Will vaccination be the pass to vacation this summer? Many hope so, but the case of a 57-year-old Zurich seems to prove otherwise. Although his misadventure in the Seychelles, where he was stranded for a week, would perhaps be an enviable fate for some.

The man, whose case was reported today by 20 Minuten, was supposed to fly back to Switzerland from the archipelago in the Indian Ocean last week with his family. But while his wife and children had no problems boarding the plane, things were more complicated for him: the 57-year-old had to stay on the ground and return to his hotel after undergoing a positive Pcr test.

The trouble started two hours before departure. The Swiss-German couple had undergone the swab the day before, at the request of the airline. "The same day my partner and our children received the negative result," the desperate tourist recounts. "As for me, however, nothing. They phoned me just before leaving, telling me I couldn't get on the plane."

Yet the 57-year-old had already received both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. A false positive? Maybe. In any case, local authorities forced the tourist to remain locked in his hotel room. Only after several days, thanks to an intervention of the Swiss Consulate to the government of Seychelles, the man was able to undergo an antigenic test paying 300 euros out of his own pocket.

The result was fortunately negative. "Only then was I allowed to leave the country." When contacted, the FDFA confirmed that it had made contact with the 57-year-old and the local authorities.

The lesson to be learned? "Vaccination does not mean the end of problems for travelers," concludes the unfortunate man, who has since happily returned home to Zurich. Christian Laesser, professor of tourism at the University of St. Gallen, confirms that "travel restrictions will be with us for a while yet, despite the vaccinations." Pcr or antigen tests before departures may still be needed for 6-12 months. "Re-entry quarantine in Switzerland, on the other hand, could be lifted soon."

The problem is that vaccination is immunizing, but it cannot prevent transmission, Laesser recalls: "Uncertainties about travel and the possibility of carrying variants from one country to another remain." More tourism-oriented states, however, may be more lax than others during the summer season.

Greater international coordination could make things easier, and this is not to be ruled out in the coming months: "Travel between certain regions of the world could soon be easy again, for example between Europe and North America," says Laesser. The WHO and national governments are working to arrive quickly at an internationally recognized Covid pass for vaccinated people. "No one wants to be accused of ruining the summer for their citizens," the professor concludes.

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I really don't understand the logic of that article because it is not intelligently written. He was stopped from boarding the flight because the airline demanded a PCR test and that PCR test came out as positive.

There was no 'vaccination passport' system in place for that airline to allow him to go through, so regardless of his vaccinations this is purely the fault of the PCR test result that the authorities then used.
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This is the point I was trying to make. The situation could yet change, but I wouldn't bank yet on being able to get where you want to go just because you've had a vaccine.

Oh absolutely as I posted above it's still test results both ends at least short-term. I'm waiting patiently for this to end as its a cost nightmare for me for commuting to/from UK at the moment.
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What's amazing is that the Federal Council just announced that vaccinated people will not have to quarantine anymore as they "cannot transmit the virus" ... oh dear ...
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I really don't understand the logic of that article because it is not intelligently written. He was stopped from boarding the flight because the airline demanded a PCR test and that PCR test came out as positive.

There was no 'vaccination passport' system in place for that airline to allow him to go through, so regardless of his vaccinations this is purely the fault of the PCR test result that the authorities then used.
I think the poor guy thought that having the vaccine would make him immune to the virus or something. Difficult to say if it was a false positive or not, but the concept that vaccine = cannot get coronavirus/cannot carry it is plain wrong. Yet, many people seem to think this is the case. Weird.
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Berset just said "the recommendation of home-office ends on May 31. People going to the office should be tested".

Restaurants will open the inner spaces if cases keep going down
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the concept that vaccine = cannot get coronavirus/cannot carry it is plain wrong. Yet, many people seem to think this is the case. Weird.

Ill put my marmot paws up and own up and say Im one of those people. Isnt the point of the vaccine that we have resistance to virus? What am I missing?
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What's amazing is that the Federal Council just announced that vaccinated people will not have to quarantine anymore as they "cannot transmit the virus" ... oh dear ...
Link to where they say that please?
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