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Old 21.05.2021, 22:47
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Had to wait 15 minutes both times, got a timer to make sure of that ��
We only had to stay for the 15 minutes after the first one. We were allowed to leave immediately the second one as we had had no adverse reaction to the first.
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Old 21.05.2021, 22:48
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For my second jab, I walked out after about 3 minutes & walked to my car about 7 minutes away.

No 15 minute watch after the second jab? Nor for the first jab?
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Old 21.05.2021, 22:50
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No 15 minute watch after the second jab? Nor for the first jab?
There was no 'watch' we were told to wait 15 minutes but most people left earlier.
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Old 21.05.2021, 22:56
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Had to wait 15 minutes both times, got a timer to make sure of that ��
I noticed Aarau was doing 10 rather than 15.
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Old 22.05.2021, 01:37
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So now Yorkshire is on the Covid map with it's own Yorkshire variant.

BBC News - Covid: Investigation into Yorkshire variant

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Old 22.05.2021, 08:59
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Can someone please update me on why someone who had Covid needs a vaccine? I mean medical reasons, not political ones.

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People who have already been infected with SARS-CoV-2 should still get vaccinated unless told otherwise by their health care provider. Even if you've had a previous infection, the vaccine acts as a booster that strengthens the immune response.
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Can someone please update me on why someone who had Covid needs a vaccine? I mean medical reasons, not political ones.

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People who have already been infected with SARS-CoV-2 should still get vaccinated unless told otherwise by their health care provider. Even if you've had a previous infection, the vaccine acts as a booster that strengthens the immune response.
If you already had Covid, Swiss authorities suggest you wait 6 months before the vaccine:

https://foph-coronavirus.ch/vaccinat...ons/#contents3

Should I have the vaccination even if I’ve already been infected with the new coronavirus?
Yes. The vaccination is also recommended if you have already been infected with the new coronavirus. The vaccination gives an additional boost to the immune system so that you are optimally protected.

The data suggests that you are protected from renewed infection for at least six months. For this reason we recommend you have the vaccination starting six months after a confirmed coronavirus infection (PCR or rapid antigen test). If it is more than six months since you were infected, you should have the vaccination as soon as possible. Here one dose of vaccine is sufficient. You do not have to have a second dose.

Vaccination is basically also possible once the symptoms have subsided. If you’re unclear about when to get vaccinated, please ask your doctor.

There are exceptions for especially vulnerable people. For more information about this, please consult your doctor.

Note: After a coronavirus infection it’s basically possible to be vaccinated with two doses of the vaccine.

It is not recommended to have an antibody test before a vaccination, because an antibody test gives no indication of when the infection took place or whether and for how long you are protected.
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Old 22.05.2021, 10:19
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question for those who got their jabs

me and OH got appointment same day, same time next week, thinking if we should bring kids to vaccine center or to leave them with friends
Personally I would leave them with friends if that is an option.
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Old 22.05.2021, 13:57
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Had to wait 15 minutes both times, got a timer to make sure of that ��
My husband had his time written on a card at the Vaccination center at Uster.
It actually wasn't that much of a drag as we had a little garden to sit in and wait,even got a free cappuccino which was lovely.
No such niceties at Dietikon but exceptionally effecient!
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Old 22.05.2021, 15:51
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My husband had his time written on a card at the Vaccination center at Uster.
It actually wasn't that much of a drag as we had a little garden to sit in and wait,even got a free cappuccino which was lovely.
No such niceties at Dietikon but exceptionally effecient!
A couple of weeks ago in Bülach had to wait 20 minutes in the rain plus a policeman who kept telling us to stand closer together.
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Old 22.05.2021, 15:59
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On Wednesday Boris Johnson's top aide-turned-nemesis, Dominic Cummings, is expected to reveal everything he knows at a parliamentary inquiry next Wednesday about the UK government's far from flawless handling of Covid-19.

On Tuesday, Cummings offered us a clue about his information, posting in a since-deleted tweet that he was in possession of the only copy of a "crucial" document on the government's handling of Covid.
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Old 22.05.2021, 16:15
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Personally I would leave them with friends if that is an option.
Or an emergency sitter, kind neighbors, etc.
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That Brexit think is out of control. What next, Rutland seceding?
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Old 22.05.2021, 21:14
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Can someone please update me on why someone who had Covid needs a vaccine? I mean medical reasons, not political ones.

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People who have already been infected with SARS-CoV-2 should still get vaccinated unless told otherwise by their health care provider. Even if you've had a previous infection, the vaccine acts as a booster that strengthens the immune response.
In my opinion if you've already had Covid then there should be no reason to get the vaccine. Not even to travel (within the EU) as the EU has very sensibly said that they'll recognize evidence of people who have already had the Covid as a pass to travel.

Unfortunately tHe ScIeNcE of this epidemic has often largely chosen to ignore decades of understanding of immunity acquired through natural infection. Early studies already showing that natural immunity is more effective than vaccination for Covid too.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...670v1.full.pdf
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Old 22.05.2021, 21:31
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In my opinion if you've already had Covid then there should be no reason to get the vaccine. Not even to travel (within the EU) as the EU has very sensibly said that they'll recognize evidence of people who have already had the Covid as a pass to travel.

Unfortunately tHe ScIeNcE of this epidemic has often largely chosen to ignore decades of understanding of immunity acquired through natural infection. Early studies already showing that natural immunity is more effective than vaccination for Covid too.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...670v1.full.pdf
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In my opinion if you've already had Covid then there should be no reason to get the vaccine. Not even to travel (within the EU) as the EU has very sensibly said that they'll recognize evidence of people who have already had the Covid as a pass to travel.

Unfortunately tHe ScIeNcE of this epidemic has often largely chosen to ignore decades of understanding of immunity acquired through natural infection. Early studies already showing that natural immunity is more effective than vaccination for Covid too.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...670v1.full.pdf
My friend had COVID twice in 6-months - so no - it's not the same. We likely to see more waves of immunisation like every 6-momths or so should there be still reasonable amount of cases detected
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My friend had COVID twice in 6-months - so no - it's not the same. We likely to see more waves of immunisation like every 6-momths or so should there be still reasonable amount of cases detected
So your friend proves that natural immunity isn't as effective as vaccination?

Here's another study on Covid natural immunity.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....19.21255720v2
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So your friend proves that natural immunity isn't as effective as vaccination?

Here's another study on Covid natural immunity.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....19.21255720v2
I guess it proves that you may get sick twice in a row in span of reasonably short time . Nothing more and nothing else
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Early studies already showing that natural immunity is more effective than vaccination for Covid too.
There's the problem. Still very muddy and far from conclusive.

Personally, and now that there are enough doses available for everybody (soon) so you don't keep someone else from getting the vaccine, I'd get two jabs just to be safe even with a prior infection. Especially with an infection that's more than 6 months since.
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Old 23.05.2021, 00:35
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So your friend proves that natural immunity isn't as effective as vaccination?

Here's another study on Covid natural immunity.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....19.21255720v2
This study you quote does not compare natural immunity effectiveness with vaccination.

These studies do;
Substantial Differences in SARS-CoV-2 Antibody Responses Elicited by Natural Infection and mRNA Vaccination
Immune Response From mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines Is More Robust Than Natural Infection (also not yet peer reviewed)

This one was peer-reviewed "Our study highlights the importance of vaccinating both uninfected and previously infected persons to elicit cross-variant neutralizing antibodies."

and this one "After one vaccine dose, individuals with prior infection showed enhanced T cell immunity, antibody secreting memory......"
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