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I just read in the news that France is about to start a study using a mix of the two mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) to see what effect, if any, having different vaccines for the two doses has on efficacy.

They think it will making the vaccination programme easier going forward if they can use the two interchangeably.
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A new natural immunity study published in Lancet finds "The presence of IgG antibodies to nucleocapsid protein was associated with substantially reduced risk of reinfection in staff and residents for up to 10 months after primary infection."

Ten months is higher than previous studies have found. To be clear, this study does not claim natural immunity is better than vaccine-induced, vaccines have not been around for so long so there cannot be any long-term findings.

Mostly any reinfections were symptomatic but not clinically severe.

The study is not peer-reviewed.
To be honest, I'm not sure if it even matters if natural immunity is more effective than vaccine induced. On a efficacy-safety standpoint I think we can be pretty sure vaccines win.

Even if infection protection is longer lasting and vaccine fleeting, and we were all to get infected sooner or later, I'd sure want to have had the vaccine first to give me the best chance of a mild infection.
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The administrative court of the canton of Zurich has at least temporarily lifted the mask requirement in primary schools in the canton of Zurich.
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Old 04.06.2021, 11:35
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Great news!
Not against secondary schools wearing them for the time being, but primary schools is too far.
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Old 04.06.2021, 11:36
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Crazy people from the city
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Old 04.06.2021, 12:29
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Re: Coronavirus

The political environment will change quite soon. By May 30th, 4 cantons had delivered the 1st dose of the vaccine to almost 40% of their population. By June 21th they should be scrapping 50%. Switzerland on average should be in that position 2 weeks later (July 5th).


https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/epid...?geoView=table
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Great news!
I never really understood why they made masks obligatory in primary schools in the first place.
They were far more sensible here.
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Re: Coronavirus

They were afraid that British mutation will be spreading faster in schools.
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Old 04.06.2021, 13:32
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They were afraid that British mutation will be spreading faster in schools.
Only in the German speaking part apparently.
It always amazes me that such a small country can have such huge differences depending on where you live.
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Re: Coronavirus

Todays published numbers 491 out of 26 k tests

16 hospitalisations
3 death

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229

Compared to last week friday

912 out of 29 k tests

36 hospitalisations
3 death
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The political environment will change quite soon. By May 30th, 4 cantons had delivered the 1st dose of the vaccine to almost 40% of their population. By June 21th they should be scrapping 50%. Switzerland on average should be in that position 2 weeks later (July 5th).


https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/epid...?geoView=table
Basel Stadt (42.76%)
Geneva (41.86%)
Ticino (40.44%)

already now over the 40% https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/epid...?geoView=table.

Weirdly Obwalden is last for first doses (32.50%), but first for second doses (27.58%).
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Old 04.06.2021, 15:15
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COVID Impfpass Apps available next week. Actually tested before release, there's a novelty
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Well you know my opinion on masks and Covid, and I believe time will prove to be a great vindicator. The first studies are now being released using actual data from the Covid pandemic like the pre-print below carried out right here in Switzerland, and they're not huge endorsements for the efficacy of face masks.

Switzerland by and large has had a very good pandemic, and I would very much welcome this move!!

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....30.21258080v1



Here too, not just in the village, the surrounding countryside, in hedgerows, next to roads. Disgusting This is also Switzerland which is a very clean country.

Half the time I don't even think it's intended, I've seen them falling out of people's pockets when they're grabbing their phone out.

Just to comment on the link .. The home page has this waiver.


“ Caution: Preprints are preliminary reports of work that have not been certified by peer review. They should not be relied on to guide clinical practice or health-related behavior and should not be reported in news media as established information.”

Having said that, a full review on masks should be done. There are many questions for me like:

- What is %chance of infection stood next to a person (with covid), with without mask.
- Bus drivers never wore masks throught pandemic but had tape across first row of seats (maybe 2.5 m) from passengers, so how many caught covid? If zero, then can this model be adapted for future.
- Can a proper Covid filter mask be developed for next time and more comforable to wear long term.
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Old 04.06.2021, 16:04
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Is the vaccine certificate valid for 6 months only?
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Old 04.06.2021, 16:26
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Is the vaccine certificate valid for 6 months only?
That’s what they said which is pissing me off immensely as if the six months starts from the date of the second vaccination ours will expire on July 26th which is before our planned trip to the UK.
I had my antibodies measured last week and I still have shedloads of them.
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Is the vaccine certificate valid for 6 months only?
depends on amount of antibodies. just spill a blood drop on it. if certificate's color not changed, than it still valid
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Old 04.06.2021, 16:38
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That’s what they said which is pissing me off immensely as if the six months starts from the date of the second vaccination ours will expire on July 26th which is before our planned trip to the UK.
I had my antibodies measured last week and I still have shedloads of them.
Wait a min...did you get your 2nd vaccine dose on back on Jan 26?
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Old 04.06.2021, 16:46
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Just to comment on the link .. The home page has this waiver.


“ Caution: Preprints are preliminary reports of work that have not been certified by peer review. They should not be relied on to guide clinical practice or health-related behavior and should not be reported in news media as established information.”

Having said that, a full review on masks should be done. There are many questions for me like:

- What is %chance of infection stood next to a person (with covid), with without mask.
- Bus drivers never wore masks throught pandemic but had tape across first row of seats (maybe 2.5 m) from passengers, so how many caught covid? If zero, then can this model be adapted for future.
- Can a proper Covid filter mask be developed for next time and more comforable to wear long term.
Doctors and hospitals have been using masks widely since 1910 and now you want a full review
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Old 04.06.2021, 16:54
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Oh yay. It looks like we're on the verge of arguing in endless circles about masks again.

That was so much fun.
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Old 04.06.2021, 17:02
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Wait a min...did you get your 2nd vaccine dose on back on Jan 26?
Yes.
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