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Old 04.06.2021, 21:09
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Assuming you actually need a 6 month booster... and assuming it's available and allowed.
It shouldn't be before enough people get at least their 1st dose.
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Old 04.06.2021, 21:12
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It shouldn't be before enough people get at least their 1st dose.
I agree... but then if they are saying the vaccine is only effective for 6 months (I don't think so but that is what they are saying), the oldest and most vulnerable people will (possibly) be unprotected from July/August and we are back to square one.
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Old 04.06.2021, 21:18
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I agree... but then if they are saying the vaccine is only effective for 6 months (I don't think so but that is what they are saying), the oldest and most vulnerable people will (possibly) be unprotected from July/August and we are back to square one.
Except each will respond differently with the amount of antibodies. Why assume all at risk are at risk to the same exact extent? This needs to gets addressed. This 6mo schtick for all makes no sense. Vax is cheaper than an antibody test in terms of lab labor envolved, I think, but it shouldn't mean constant vaxing. Somebody told me that the boosters will be only once a year. I still find it exaggerated, some immune systems are probably ok with just one jab, too.
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Old 04.06.2021, 21:26
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Until your own triggered or exhausted immune system puts itself on a strike.

I am actually really starting to doubt this "wear a mask at all times" and "get ready for a jab every 6mo". Especially if it's endorsed by the WHO.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/02...th-soft-power/
That can actually happen. If you are constantly exposed to a low level pathogen your body can just give up fighting it to avoid constant immuno induced inflammation.
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Old 04.06.2021, 21:28
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Indeed yet loads of 'fear' that having had covid gave no protection. This was circulated in the media & probably in this thread over many months.
And it was always going to be nonsense. Serious respiratory diseases pretty much invariably invoke a strong immune response. I remember people reading that infection could happen again within weeks when it was always going to be very unlikely.
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Old 04.06.2021, 21:37
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That can actually happen. If you are constantly exposed to a low level pathogen your body can just give up fighting it to avoid constant immuno induced inflammation.
The thing is, do I expose it and exhaust it thru frequent vaxing to keep a track and illusion of control, or do I chance possibly not expose it to Covid19 because I actually either manage the protective measures well even in high exposure - or - have a solid T-cell protection. We could manage a better strategy if doctors were not too busy vaxing, they could focus on antibody management, imho. I know it is more expensive. But I think checking the antibodies before vaxing is better long term, for people.
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It is incredible how politicised this has become, was there ever in history a similar example? In the past, China never disputed that it was the point of origin of the 1957 Asian Flu pandemic, the 1968 Hong Kong Flu pandemic, the 2002–2004 SARS epidemic, and the 2013 H7N9 influenza outbreak.

According to Pew Research, public opinion about coronavirus is more politically divided in U.S. than in other advanced economies.

The conservative media are now queuing up to attack Tony Fauci. Killing the messenger has been popular for thousands of years but without any identified tangible benefit.
Another example of politicised is 100% of the US Congress House Democrats are vaccinated, whereas, among the Republican conference, only 95 of the 212 members -- 44.8% -- have said they are vaccinated.
The Republican Party lost the plot a long time ago and are pandering to the worst elements of human nature - bigotry, tribalism and scientific illiteracy. Trump is a symptom more than a cause. Meanwhile Biden is a rambling old man risking serious economic damage with his excessive money printing and panders constantly to the dangerously illiberal social justice warrior wing of his party.

It's a sad reflection on the state of democracy that this is the choice presented to the American people.
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Old 04.06.2021, 22:49
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Another example of politicised is 100% of the US Congress House Democrats are vaccinated, whereas, among the Republican conference, only 95 of the 212 members -- 44.8% -- have said they are vaccinated.
I trust you see the issue with that. Applies even more so to the Dems.
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Old 05.06.2021, 09:10
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I trust you see the issue with that. Applies even more so to the Dems.
The issue is that the GOP House members are too scared of their voters to admit they were vaccinated.
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The issue is that the GOP House members are too scared of their voters to admit they were vaccinated.
So is that why they are working so hard to reduce the numbers of people who can vote?
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Old 05.06.2021, 11:46
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I am very grateful to have had the possibility to be vaccinated so early, I know I am very lucky.
That doesn’t mean that I can’t express my disappointment about the 6 month validity. We are really looking forward to seeing our twin grandsons who we have yet to meet and who will be celebrating their first birthday in August. I just think a vaccine certificate will likely make that trip much easier and am fairly sure that vaccine immunity will last much longer than 6 months.


If it lasts less than a year at least we're literally "screwed".
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Old 05.06.2021, 11:59
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The issue is that the GOP House members are too scared of their voters to admit they were vaccinated.
You are a charitable man Marton. Have any said they won't have it?
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I wonder why is it 11? Yesterday was the first time I heard this magic number in relation to vaccination/illness. Before they always used 2nd dose + 14 days.
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I wonder why is it 11? Yesterday was the first time I heard this magic number in relation to vaccination/illness. Before they always used 2nd dose + 14 days.
11 working days
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Old 05.06.2021, 13:49
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11 working days
9 to 5?
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What about those who work nightshifts?
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9 to 5?
w/o lunch
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w/o lunch
Vax for lunch?

Man, I am still hurtin'!
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The issue is that the GOP House members are too scared of their voters to admit they were vaccinated.
Unsurprisingly only GOP's lies are a problem in your view. This kind of blindness for one's own side is a major factor causing and reinforcing the political divide.

That said, it's a good thing to see politicians respect and consider their voters' position, far too many citizens have stopped voting because they think that politcians don't care. I'm just not sure if it should be this kind of respect.

The asinine thing is that health has become a political issue. As if a virus cared about people's party affiliaton.
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writting on c++ for food
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Man, I am still hurtin'!
after vax?
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