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We have delta coming and some people still haven't been fully vaccinated. Realistically it won't happen before August.
there will be gamma, lambda and so on...
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Old 27.06.2021, 17:34
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there will be gamma, lambda and so on...
lambada you mean
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lambada you mean

I think he means La Bamba



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lambada you mean
no, lamb-da
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Old 27.06.2021, 17:43
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Yes but delta is genuinely the most infectious and thus dangerous. I'd rather be slightly conservative than go back into the bizzare world of closing shops and the like.
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Old 27.06.2021, 17:46
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Yes but delta is genuinely the most infectious and thus dangerous. I'd rather be slightly conservative than go back into the bizzare world of closing shops and the like.
I mean, delta is not the last mutation. there will be more. its natural for viruses to mutate to more contagious and less deadly variants
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Old 27.06.2021, 17:49
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Yes but delta is genuinely the most infectious and thus dangerous. I'd rather be slightly conservative than go back into the bizzare world of closing shops and the like.
Me too. Slowly but definitively is far better than a constant yo-yo of restrictions/no restrictions etc.
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Sorry if this has already been covered in the discussion earlier, but I wonder if you knowledgeable folks can help!

I am now fully vaccinated (received in Switzerland). I need to travel to UK in the coming days. I understand that I am exempt from quarantine upon re-entering Switzerland because I am vaccinated. However, do I need a negative PCR Test to board the flight to Switzerland or to show upon landing in Switzerland?
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Sorry if this has already been covered in the discussion earlier, but I wonder if you knowledgeable folks can help!

I am now fully vaccinated (received in Switzerland). I need to travel to UK in the coming days. I understand that I am exempt from quarantine upon re-entering Switzerland because I am vaccinated. However, do I need a negative PCR Test to board the flight to Switzerland or to show upon landing in Switzerland?
To get into the UK you need to take an antigen or PCR test & to have a 2/8 day test booked even if you are not staying that long.

Nothing required for your return due to your vaccination certificate.
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Re: Coronavirus

Thanks @fatmanfilms; exactly what I was looking for!

Do we have an EF recommendation for pre-travel tests in Zurich? I note that the tests are to be within 72 hours before travel to UK and the confirmation must be in English, French or Spanish.

A friend sent me a link to 'onedoc' which allows you to book appointments online. He said the test was at no cost.

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Old 27.06.2021, 19:05
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A friend sent me a link to 'onedoc' which allows you to book appointments online. He said the test was at no cost.
Generally the test is at zero cost to you if you have symptoms of COVID and need a test but there is a fee if you need the test for travel.

The fee depends on both the test centre and the type of test.
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Re: Coronavirus

I've said many times that we need radical change in our strategy how we combat Covid and I am happy to see countries see the mistakes they have been doing with imposing Covid restrictions.

Singapore is doing exactly that:

Singapore’s surprising new plan to ‘live with covid’ revealed

No quarantine, no icky tests and no daily numbers


https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/s...c634e1658f6901

A country that has been one of the world’s most successful at combating Covid-19 has announced it will soon fundamentally change how it manages the pandemic.

The city state of Singapore has stated covid will be treated like other endemic diseases such as flu.

There will be no goals of zero transmission. Quarantine will be dumped for travellers and close contact of cases will not have to isolate. It also plans to no longer announce daily case numbers.
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Old 27.06.2021, 19:42
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I've said many times that we need radical change in our strategy how we combat Covid and I am happy to see countries see the mistakes they have been doing with imposing Covid restrictions.

Singapore is doing exactly that:

Singapore’s surprising new plan to ‘live with covid’ revealed

No quarantine, no icky tests and no daily numbers


https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/s...c634e1658f6901

A country that has been one of the world’s most successful at combating Covid-19 has announced it will soon fundamentally change how it manages the pandemic.

The city state of Singapore has stated covid will be treated like other endemic diseases such as flu.

There will be no goals of zero transmission. Quarantine will be dumped for travellers and close contact of cases will not have to isolate. It also plans to no longer announce daily case numbers.
Ultimately it's the only way. The question is not if that's correct, but when it is.
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Old 27.06.2021, 19:53
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Vaccination was key. The road map out of the current measures couldn’t begin until more people had been jabbed.

Singapore is set to have given two-thirds of its residents at least one jab within weeks and to have two thirds fully vaccinated by early August.

Singapore has recorded some fully vaccinated locals getting Covid-19, but none of them have had serious symptoms.

The ministers state it’s likely that would continue and booster shots may be necessary.

Testing would also have to be easier and quicker. Self-administered tests, such as breathalysers, should replace the uncomfortable ear bud down the back of the throat method.

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I've said many times that we need radical change in our strategy how we combat Covid and I am happy to see countries see the mistakes they have been doing with imposing Covid restrictions.

Singapore is doing exactly that:

Singapore’s surprising new plan to ‘live with covid’ revealed

No quarantine, no icky tests and no daily numbers


https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/s...c634e1658f6901

A country that has been one of the world’s most successful at combating Covid-19 has announced it will soon fundamentally change how it manages the pandemic.

The city state of Singapore has stated covid will be treated like other endemic diseases such as flu.

There will be no goals of zero transmission. Quarantine will be dumped for travellers and close contact of cases will not have to isolate. It also plans to no longer announce daily case numbers.
Did you actually read the whole article?
It says this is what they will do eventually but I think your ‘soon’ is a bit optimistic. It’s not going to happen for a while yet.
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Did you actually read the whole article?
It says this is what they will do eventually but I think your ‘soon’ is a bit optimistic. It’s not going to happen for a while yet.
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Singapore is set to have given two-thirds of its residents at least one jab within weeks and to have two thirds fully vaccinated by early August.
I'd say that is very soon. Positive news we really need. And to stop this non sense.

But I really like this line:

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Old 27.06.2021, 20:37
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Yes I did, did you?



I'd say that is very soon. Positive news we really need. And to stop this non sense.

But I really like this line:
I did, I read it all the way to the end.
I found this paragraph towards the end to be most informative.

«The Singaporean ministers said the country was by no means at a stage where the post-covid plan could commence. For the time being, current restrictions would have to remain in place.
Indeed, the country has just toughened entry to people from New South Wales due to the current Sydney outbreak.
But “a road map to transit to a new normal” was coming together.
“History has shown that every pandemic will run its course”.»


It looks pretty much the same as what most of Europe is heading towards to me.
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I've said many times that we need radical change in our strategy how we combat Covid and I am happy to see countries see the mistakes they have been doing with imposing Covid restrictions.

Singapore is doing exactly that:

Singapore’s surprising new plan to ‘live with covid’ revealed

No quarantine, no icky tests and no daily numbers


https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/s...c634e1658f6901

A country that has been one of the world’s most successful at combating Covid-19 has announced it will soon fundamentally change how it manages the pandemic.

The city state of Singapore has stated covid will be treated like other endemic diseases such as flu.

There will be no goals of zero transmission. Quarantine will be dumped for travellers and close contact of cases will not have to isolate. It also plans to no longer announce daily case numbers.
Premature, Singapore COVID recovery plan is not yet finalised.
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Singapore Health Minister Ong Ye Kung said that the COVID recovery roadmap was still being worked out and plans would be announced in due course.
Ong said that the two-thirds vaccination milestone is “actually not enough”. “We need to go further than two-thirds, especially given the transmissibility of the Delta variant,” he said.

Reiterating that the type of opening to be associated with the milestone is still being worked out, he cautioned that “there are still a lot of unknowns”.
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I've said many times that we need radical change in our strategy how we combat Covid and I am happy to see countries see the mistakes they have been doing with imposing Covid restrictions.

Singapore is doing exactly that:

Singapore’s surprising new plan to ‘live with covid’ revealed

No quarantine, no icky tests and no daily numbers


https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/s...c634e1658f6901

A country that has been one of the world’s most successful at combating Covid-19 has announced it will soon fundamentally change how it manages the pandemic.

The city state of Singapore has stated covid will be treated like other endemic diseases such as flu.

There will be no goals of zero transmission. Quarantine will be dumped for travellers and close contact of cases will not have to isolate. It also plans to no longer announce daily case numbers.
Mistakes? I don't think so. They are pragmatically adopting to a situation where there are effective vaccines. I don't think this invalidates in any form their initial reactions.
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What vaccine do they use in Singapore?
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