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Old 09.07.2021, 14:05
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Week's average is +101%. Doubles every 7 days.
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Old 09.07.2021, 15:40
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Drugmaker Pfizer said yesterday it is seeing waning immunity from its coronavirus vaccine and says it is picking up its efforts to develop a booster dose that will protect people from variants.

Pfizer said it would soon publish data about a third dose of vaccine and submit it to the US Food and Drug Administration, European Medicines Agency and other regulators. The company specified it would seek FDA emergency use authorization for a booster dose in August.

But in an unusual move, two top federal agencies, the FDA and Centers for Disease and Control, said in a joint statement Americans don't need boosters yet and said it was not up to companies alone to decide when they might be needed.

Additionally, the World Health Organization said, "We don't know whether booster vaccines will be needed to maintain protection against COVID-19 until additional data is collected," adding, "limited data is available on how long the protection from current doses lasts and whether an additional booster dose would be beneficial and for whom."
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Old 09.07.2021, 16:27
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Drugmaker Pfizer said yesterday it is seeing waning immunity from its coronavirus vaccine and says it is picking up its efforts to develop a booster dose that will protect people from variants.
Waning immunity, they call it?

I must remember that expression.

As in the Titanic developed a waning buoyancy after hitting an iceberg.

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Old 09.07.2021, 20:47
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Waning immunity, they call it?

I must remember that expression.

As in the Titanic developed a waning buoyancy after hitting an iceberg.

Translation, Pfizer’s cash cow ready for a second round of milking
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Old 09.07.2021, 23:00
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Drugmaker Pfizer said yesterday it is seeing waning immunity from its coronavirus vaccine and says it is picking up its efforts to develop a booster dose that will protect people from variants.

Pfizer said it would soon publish data about a third dose of vaccine and submit it to the US Food and Drug Administration, European Medicines Agency and other regulators. The company specified it would seek FDA emergency use authorization for a booster dose in August.

But in an unusual move, two top federal agencies, the FDA and Centers for Disease and Control, said in a joint statement Americans don't need boosters yet and said it was not up to companies alone to decide when they might be needed.

Additionally, the World Health Organization said, "We don't know whether booster vaccines will be needed to maintain protection against COVID-19 until additional data is collected," adding, "limited data is available on how long the protection from current doses lasts and whether an additional booster dose would be beneficial and for whom."
I was curious about what studies are currently being done regarding a third dose / booster, and found this, dated June 16th:

UMass Medical School to participate in trial of Pfizer COVID-19 booster vaccine
https://www.umassmed.edu/news/news-a...oster-vaccine/

"The principal investigator of an ongoing clinical trial of Pfizer-BioNTech’s COVID-19 mRNA vaccine said UMass Medical School intends to start enrolling by the end of June approximately 100 participants from its initial Pfizer trial in a study of a vaccine booster. The booster would be given roughly six months after participants received their second shot of the original vaccine. The clinical trial will look only at a booster dose of the same type and maker, in this case Pfizer-BioNTech, as participants’ initial doses.

“The vaccine has obviously been shown to be incredibly effective for six months,” said Robert Finberg, MD, distinguished professor of medicine and a member of Gov. Baker’s COVID-19 Advisory Group. “The question is, what happens after that? So, this is going to be a Phase III trial of 10,000 people across the world and they’re going to be randomized to either get a placebo or a third shot of the same vaccine that they had two doses of.”


Anyways, I'm glad that studies like these are being done, because we've known that at some point, people would most likely need a booster shot. We just haven't really known when. Some people began receiving their vaccines last December, which is now ~ 7 months ago.
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Old 10.07.2021, 08:08
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I was curious about what studies are currently being done regarding a third dose / booster, and found this, dated June 16th:

UMass Medical School to participate in trial of Pfizer COVID-19 booster vaccine
https://www.umassmed.edu/news/news-a...oster-vaccine/

"The principal investigator of an ongoing clinical trial of Pfizer-BioNTech’s COVID-19 mRNA vaccine said UMass Medical School intends to start enrolling by the end of June approximately 100 participants from its initial Pfizer trial in a study of a vaccine booster. The booster would be given roughly six months after participants received their second shot of the original vaccine. The clinical trial will look only at a booster dose of the same type and maker, in this case Pfizer-BioNTech, as participants’ initial doses.

“The vaccine has obviously been shown to be incredibly effective for six months,” said Robert Finberg, MD, distinguished professor of medicine and a member of Gov. Baker’s COVID-19 Advisory Group. “The question is, what happens after that? So, this is going to be a Phase III trial of 10,000 people across the world and they’re going to be randomized to either get a placebo or a third shot of the same vaccine that they had two doses of.”


Anyways, I'm glad that studies like these are being done, because we've known that at some point, people would most likely need a booster shot. We just haven't really known when. Some people began receiving their vaccines last December, which is now ~ 7 months ago.
“6 months after the second jab”

Anything that needs to be taken at 6 month intervals stops being a vaccine, it then becomes a drug. We should watch how this develops.
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Old 10.07.2021, 09:51
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Anyways, I'm glad that studies like these are being done, because we've known that at some point, people would most likely need a booster shot. We just haven't really known when. Some people began receiving their vaccines last December, which is now ~ 7 months ago.
I had my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine at the end of January and out of curiosity asked to have my antibody levels measured during a routine blood test last week.
I still had bucketloads of them even though I am on immunosuppressant medication so I’m not concerned about needing a booster at the moment.

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Old 10.07.2021, 10:19
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After I get my second vaccination, I am not touching any of these Covid vaccines for a LONG time! The only time I will get a booster etc will be if I see a real rise in deaths or severe illness (not just cases).
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Old 10.07.2021, 14:37
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Several cantons, including Graubünden, have to exchange hundreds of thousands of PCR saliva tests due to potential defects. During internal quality controls, the supplier found an increased bacterial load in "certain test kits".

Not dangerous, they say.
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Not quite sure why that would be dangerous. You spit into it?


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Old 10.07.2021, 22:41
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Not quite sure why that would be dangerous. You spit into it?


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Old 11.07.2021, 08:42
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Re: Coronavirus

Two-level discrimination has arrived.
Malta just announced it is the first EU country to ban foreign visitors who are not fully vaccinated.
I wonder if this will be a one-off or start a trend, one can understand countries trying to protect their citizens and their health services.
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CH doesn't allow unvaccinated visitors apart from the EU and few more countries from the white list.
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Old 11.07.2021, 09:52
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Poll on SRF on vaccinations. Not only by party affiliation, but also by profession.

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/8-co...fer-impfgraben

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Old 11.07.2021, 10:03
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Poll on SRF on vaccinations. Not only by party affiliation, but also by profession.

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/8-co...fer-impfgraben
Thanks for the poll, weird how even here the right wing party is the one with most anti-vaxxers. Of course if they want to vote for Christmas that is their right, I do not support mandatory vaccination.
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Old 11.07.2021, 10:10
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CH doesn't allow unvaccinated visitors apart from the EU and few more countries from the white list.
That’s not quite true.
Visitors from other countries (even those with a variant of concern such as the UK) can visit Switzerland even if they are unvaccinated but they have to quarantine on arrival and have a negative PCR test before departure.

https://www.newsd.admin.ch/newsd/mes...ents/67312.pdf

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Anf I think one can add large parts of the "wait" people to "never". Whenever I hear this, it sounds like a polite statement to avoid a potentially uncomfortable discussion.

Funny are the one who state they want be vaccinated "immediately" yet have received no shot. Ok, could be some youth.
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Old 11.07.2021, 10:14
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After I get my second vaccination, I am not touching any of these Covid vaccines for a LONG time! The only time I will get a booster etc will be if I see a real rise in deaths or severe illness (not just cases).
What will you do if after 12 months the Covid certificate is invalid and you still need it for travel etc?
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