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Not quite so, in the US weekly benefits are tied to pre-layoff pay, someone who was earning minimum wage would be receiving lower-than-average benefits.

Another factor is the clampdown on immigration and on illegal immigrants has reduced the number of people willing to work for minimum wage.
Great news for for workers who were having their wages held down by those factors you mention.
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Another factor is the clampdown on immigration and on illegal immigrants has reduced the number of people willing to work for minimum wage.
Which is IMHO a good thing as it means people at the bottom of the ladder are in a better position to ask for more money.
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Great news for for workers who were having their wages held down by those factors you mention.
Minimum wage will rise in many states but prices are rising too. Itís a vicious circle.
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They already scan vaccine certificate QR codes for mask-free bar/club access for some venues in Langestrasse in Zurich so it's already happening.
Again, I’m just referring to the US in my post which was based on a reaction to V’s article on Texas.
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No one is ready to invest money voluntarily into checking for Covid vax certificates. There’s a huge shortage of Labour for low-paying jobs already which has lead to partial closure of restaurants and other businesses.

Just tonight, I wanted to go into a Dairy Queen but due to lack of staff, only the drive thru was open. Zip lines in this area are open only 5 days a week due to shortage of staff. In fact, almost every business in town has a sign with “ we’re hiring.” I’ve never seen anything like this. I’ve been through three states and all are dealing with the same issues.
I think one problem in the USA is that they are way behind Europe in rationalizing the workforce in places like restaurants and other low-paying jobs. I am always surprised that things like parking valets still survive which in Europe we did away with before WW2 probably. Or whereas in European train stations there are typically automatic lockers to leave your luggage, in the USA there is typically still some guy at a desk whose only job is to look after luggage. Maybe its because Americans like being pampered in that way, but if salaries rise to reasonable levels, they will realize they can no longer afford to pay people to do stuff that you can just as well do yourself.

In other words, the American economy depends on masses of poor people who will be ready to accept any job and be payed peanuts. As that changes, so will the economy.
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I think one problem in the USA is that they are way behind Europe in rationalizing the workforce in places like restaurants and other low-paying jobs. I am always surprised that things like parking valets still survive which in Europe we did away with before WW2 probably. Or whereas in European train stations there are typically automatic lockers to leave your luggage, in the USA there is typically still some guy at a desk whose only job is to look after luggage. Maybe its because Americans like being pampered in that way, but if salaries rise to reasonable levels, they will realize they can no longer afford to pay people to do stuff that you can just as well do yourself.
I donít see how restaurants can exist using fewer employees and self-service checkouts are being used everywhere.
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Minimum wage will rise in many states but prices are rising too. Itís a vicious circle.
Not necessarily. If more and more people rise above minimum wage because there is a shortage of workers, minimum wage will ultimately become irrelevant.
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Not necessarily. If more and more people rise above minimum wage because there is a shortage of workers, minimum wage will ultimately become irrelevant.
Not in the US and even regions in Switzerland are now voting on implementing a minimum wage. Your theory simply wonít happen except in our dreams.
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I donít see how restaurants can exist using fewer employees and self-service checkouts are being used everywhere.
Last time I was in the US there was often a guy by the self-service checkout to make sure you were doing it right and not stealing anything. That's a highly absurd way to do automation.

And as long as a restaurant has parking valets I see an easy way for them to use fewer employees.
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Last time I was in the US there was often a guy by the self-service checkout to make sure you were doing it right and not stealing anything. That's a highly absurd way to do automation.

And as long as a restaurant has parking valets I see an easy way for them to use fewer employees.
They have that at Migros and Coop too. Only a small amount if exklusive restaurants offer valet parking over here. I really think you’re grabbing at straws.
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Last time I was in the US there was often a guy by the self-service checkout to make sure you were doing it right and not stealing anything. That's a highly absurd way to do automation.

There's usually one in most UK supermarkets as they're needed to approve alcohol sales, so that's not unusual.
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They have that at Migros and Coop too. Only a small amount if exklusive restaurants offer valet parking over here. I really think youíre grabbing at straws.
I never had anybody check me or look over my shoulder in Coop or Migros.

Anyway, it was just one example.
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I never had anybody check me or look over my shoulder in Coop or Migros.

Anyway, it was just one example.
There are signs stating that purchases are subject to random checks. In addition, many coops and migros have an employee assigned to the self-checkout section, especially in the larger stores.
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There's usually one in most UK supermarkets as they're needed to approve alcohol sales, so that's not unusual.
In the Coop some guy who normally stacks shelves or whatever comes over and approves the alcohol. In the USA there is typically some wannabe security guy in a rent-a.cop uniform who does nothing else.

Or if you go to the manual checkout you often get some kid helping you pack it into bags. It's all an absolute overkill.
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There are signs stating that purchases are subject to random checks. In addition, many coops and migros have an employee assigned to the self-checkout section, especially in the larger stores.
In larger stores maybe. But I've been to tiny corner shop places in places like Chicago where there was a grumpy security guy making sure you did the automatic check-out right.
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In larger stores maybe. But I've been to tiny corner shop places in places like Chicago where there was a grumpy security guy making sure you did the automatic check-out right.
I can imagine there are many places where shoplifting is a major problem, and not only in the US.
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C'mon you guys, please Stop feeding the troll.

Nothing you can say is going to change his behaviour.

Ignore him, (in both senses) perhaps he will go away.
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I can imagine there are many places where shoplifting is a major problem, and not only in the US.
then what's the point of an automatic checkout at all if you need to survey it all the time?
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Last time I was in the US there was often a guy by the self-service checkout to make sure you were doing it right and not stealing anything. That's a highly absurd way to do automation.

And as long as a restaurant has parking valets I see an easy way for them to use fewer employees.
Ah yes, another person who takes a few trips to the US and understands the American workforce and economy.
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Todays published numbers 771 out of 18 k tests

17 hospitalisations
3 death

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/overview

Compared to last week wednesday 773 out of 19 k tests

15 hospitalisations
0 death
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