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Anyone got a gist of the press conference messages / actions ... no deutch here...

Can’t believe their health website has crashed with the traffic.
Tagesanzeiger also crashed And EF is damned slowwwww!
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Re: Coronavirus

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/governm...virus/45615344

Sweeping measures? Really? Border with Italy open. Events up to 100 people allowed. Sports clubs open. Meanwhile, the number of new cases grows exponentially day by day. I wouldn't call what's happening now as sweeping measures. More like "too-late-to-react" type of measures.
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Sweeping measures? Really? Border with Italy open. Events up to 100 people allowed. Sports clubs open. Meanwhile, the number of new cases grows exponentially day by day. I wouldn't call what's happening now as sweeping measures. More like "too-late-to-react" type of measures.
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Sweeping measures? Really? Border with Italy open. Events up to 100 people allowed. Sports clubs open. Meanwhile, the number of new cases grows exponentially day by day. I wouldn't call what's happening now as sweeping measures. More like "too-late-to-react" type of measures.
Yeah, I hoped for more, this is still re-active and not pro-active.

PS: the exponential part is about every 3 days.
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What is the concentration of ethanol in Migros "Alcool ą brūler/Brennsprit"?
If you meant this:
https://produkte.migros.ch/m-classic-brennsprit#qanda

The official answer in the comment section says "...The fuel contains about 90 % ethanol. We recommend using all chemicals from the Migros range only for the application for which they are intended. If you want to produce a disinfectant yourself, it is best to contact a pharmacy. Best regards, your M-Infoline team"
(rough deepl translation)
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Re: Coronavirus

An article (in English) highlighting the press conference today and the new measures in place here in CH:

Switzerland has closed schools throughout the country and imposed a ban on public gatherings of more than 100 people.

Bars and restaurants are limited to 50 guests while the government pledged CHF10 billion ($10.6 billion) in emergency aid to support the economy.


The package of measures was announced by government ministers on Friday. The ban on gatherings will last until at least the end of April while schools will be closed until April 4. The border with Italy will remain open but further restrictions will be applied.


https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/governm...virus/45615344
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What is the concentration of ethanol in Migros "Alcool ą brūler/Brennsprit"?
There is an additive that makes it unsuitable for application on the skin anyway, if you need high proof alcohol, try contacting a local distillery, there are quite a lot of them and they have received official permission to produce it instead of their usual stuff.
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An article (in English) highlighting the press conference today and the new measures in place here in CH:

Switzerland has closed schools throughout the country and imposed a ban on public gatherings of more than 100 people.

Bars and restaurants are limited to 50 guests while the government pledged CHF10 billion ($10.6 billion) in emergency aid to support the economy.


The package of measures was announced by government ministers on Friday. The ban on gatherings will last until at least the end of April while schools will be closed until April 4. The border with Italy will remain open but further restrictions will be applied.


https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/governm...virus/45615344
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Sweeping measures? Really? Border with Italy open. Events up to 100 people allowed. Sports clubs open. Meanwhile, the number of new cases grows exponentially day by day. I wouldn't call what's happening now as sweeping measures. More like "too-late-to-react" type of measures.
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What is the concentration of ethanol in Migros "Alcool ą brūler/Brennsprit"?
Don't put that thing any near your skin it will make it dry and irritated in no time
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grows exponentially
Back it up with facts.
The current situation in Switzerland day-by-day: https://imgur.com/VS9NQB0

Yes, the technical definition of "exponential growth" is not fulfilled here, but ALL experts agree that the number of reported cases is way lower than what is actual situation. Testing is being done only for the high-risk cases, so there are a lot more infected people walking around. A question is how many and how many new people they are infecting.
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Old 13.03.2020, 17:50
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A question is how many and how many new people they are infecting.

That is kind of the point of restricting it... I don't know where you live, but pretty much every event, club meeting etc... were cancelled will over a week ago, without any kind of official request.
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Don’t use alcohol sanitiser.

Soap and water is much, much better.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/h...ing-germs.html
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Re: Coronavirus

So as I read about the border situation, don't forget your Ausweis when popping out of the country... you'll need it get back in to prove you live here.
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Soap and water is much, much better.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/h...ing-germs.html
For washing hands absolutely, but good idea to use the 70% Alcohol to disinfect high traffic surfaces like door handles, phones, buttons, etc.

Very important, leave your shoes outside the door, all droplets eventually land onto the ground, your shoes are the dirtiest.
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So as I read about the border situation, don't forget your Ausweis when popping out of the country... you'll need it get back in to prove you live here.
I don't have one.

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Yeah, we know.
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Overstated in that report. Most daily traffic (an awful lot of Austrians work in FL and CH) continues.
As is the case with Ticino.

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However, nice and quiet at my Migros today (yes, I do know which time to pick for that but these days that's not really reliable, is it). You can buy anything your heart desires (although there may not be 60 packs of it but only 5 - still 4 more than I need) except: "Brennsprit" for the Fondue-burner and ice-cream cornets (parents needing to keep their children in a good mood?). I didn't want to buy the latter anyway and I still got enough "Brennsprit" to get my burner running. (I won't try to translate that as I could easily mention the wrong chemical.)
At 11.30 this morning I had to drive twice around the Migros car park before I found a space. Shelves were relatively full except for the dried powder mashed potato which was empty; I don't buy it anyway.
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Re: Coronavirus

About homemade hand disinfectant with alcohol to burn for Fondue.....I think it's not a good idea.

The hand disinfectants are made to be safe. Meaning, the alcohol absorption through your skin and lungs is below toxic levels in humans. Using other types of alcohol may end up in intoxication. The smaller humans known as children are more vulnerable due to smaller bodies where to spread the toxic substance.

Just 2 or 3 days ago we were making jokes about some dead guys in Iran due to alcohol poisoning. Don't be like those guys. Use super safe soap and water

This is the recommendation on how to react when isopropanol is in contact with your skin:

"When contact with the skin has occurred, the affected skin should be flooded with water and then gently and thoroughly washed with soap and water. In the event of a large spill in contact with skin, wash and monitor for signs of poisoning, seek medical treatment if symptoms appear."

https://blog.gotopac.com/2016/01/06/...-MkoYMYIGbh7zQ

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At 11.30 this morning I had to drive twice around the Migros car park before I found a space. Shelves were relatively full except for the dried powder mashed potato which was empty; I don't buy it anyway.

The supply chains for the supermarkets has kept functioning and I didn't see any reports from China or Italy that there were any noticeable shortages of food.
I think perhaps 3 to 5 days worth (so a standard big shop) is sufficient, just in case you get a sniffle. That's my plan anyhow.
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