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Would be great if our politicians could read this, and use it to act in a much better way than they are doing atm.

https://left.it/2020/03/13/covid_19-...fic-community/

Open letter from Italy to the rest of the world, signed/supported by a truckload of people who know what they are doing.
As far as I understood, the Swiss politicians received some critics from medical specialists - one of them was criticising especially the low number of people who are being tested. (it's weird, CH produces these tests...) He praised the South-Korean approach, but in all fairness they have the experience with SARS some years back. Nobody was prepared here. We'll all learn.
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Old 14.03.2020, 02:17
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This I found to be a very interesting podcast providing some clarity on the topic by a capacity in the fields of biosecurity and infectious diseases.

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As far as I understood, the Swiss politicians received some critics from medical specialists - one of them was criticising especially the low number of people who are being tested. (it's weird, CH produces these tests...) He praised the South-Korean approach, but in all fairness they have the experience with SARS some years back. Nobody was prepared here. We'll all learn.
But that is the whole problem with our politicians, they do not learn they choose to make the same mistakes others have made before them. Italy is a great example of what happens when one reacts later than China, feels to me politicians are cherry picking their "experts". Everybody with a sense of math can do the calculations and knows that every day wasted increases the screw-up hugely. Spain, Switzerland, Sweden, Belgium, France, Netherlands etc.. etc.. are all on the same line still as Italy, so many countries, so many different populations sizes, so many different amount of tests and still they all show the almost exact same progress.

I'm in favour of a total lock-down starting tomorrow. Iran is understanding what needs to be done to get control in the quickest way possible. They are now sending the army into the cities to fully clear the streets.
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Whilst everybody else goes to plunder Migros/Coop et al today..... I'll head for the garden center to buy soil, spring blooms to brighten the window boxes with COLOUR, some hardy veggie seedlings (resp. seeds) and fully expect the store to be empty..... of people that is....
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This I found to be a very interesting podcast providing some clarity on the topic by a capacity in the fields of biosecurity and infectious diseases.

We are watching this as I type! Great podcast!
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Whilst everybody else goes to plunder Migros/Coop et al today..... I'll head for the garden center to buy soil, spring blooms to brighten the window boxes with COLOUR, some hardy veggie seedlings (resp. seeds) and fully expect the store to be empty..... of people that is....
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Old 14.03.2020, 09:29
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nice try, omtati next time look for a pic with German wording for the aisles names....
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The Amis have the biggest Supermarket shopping wagons of all nations. Sometimes higher than the people who push them!
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As far as I understood, the Swiss politicians received some critics from medical specialists - one of them was criticising especially the low number of people who are being tested. (it's weird, CH produces these tests...)
That may change soon, not just in CH. Roche announcement yesterday

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We are very pleased that our Roche Diagnostics-developed test to help identify novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) today received an Emergency Use Authorization approval from the FDA and obtained IVD CE-Mark. The cobas SARS-CoV-2 Test is for use on the cobas 6800 and 8800 systems.


Hospitals and laboratories can now run the cobas SARS-CoV-2 Test on Roche’s fully automated cobas 6800 and 8800 systems, which are widely available around the world. These are high volume testing systems that deliver the fastest time-to-results, with the 8800 system able to provide over 4,100 results in 24 hours. This means that more tests can be done faster, bringing certainty to patients, healthcare providers, and communities across the globe.
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Old 14.03.2020, 10:02
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If it’s Swiss, why are all the signs in English?

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Re: Coronavirus

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Would be great if our politicians could read this, and use it to act in a much better way than they are doing atm.

https://left.it/2020/03/13/covid_19-...fic-community/

Open letter from Italy to the rest of the world, signed/supported by a truckload of people who know what they are doing.

Thanks a lot. This summarize and confirm what I said so far.
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Wow .. This thread has progressed faster than the virus ..

Why the fek is everybody buying toilet paper anyways? It's not a diarrhoea virus FFS .. I was having dinner last night with Indian friends, oh how they laughed!!

Maybe it's time we learned to wash our asses instead of rubbing it with paper, I mean if you got poop on your hand you would wash it, wouldn't you?




PS : The guy in COOP stocking the shelves was also laughing, he said they had loads, just couldn't get it on the shelf quick enough.
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Old 14.03.2020, 10:22
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Wow .. This thread has progressed faster than the virus ..

Why the fek is everybody buying toilet paper anyways? It's not a diarrhoea virus FFS .. I was having dinner last night with Indian friends, oh how they laughed!!

Maybe it's time we learned to wash our asses instead of rubbing it with paper, I mean if you got poop on your hand you would wash it, wouldn't you?


PS : The guy in COOP stocking the shelves was also laughing, he said they had loads, just couldn't get it on the shelf quick enough.
For one thing, having to go to the grocery store puts people at risk of contracting the virus, so the less often you have to go to the store, the better. Also, I think some people are trying to prepare in case they have to quarantine themselves and their families for two weeks. So I don't think that stocking up on toilet paper has much of anything to do with people expecting to get diarrhea from the virus.
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Old 14.03.2020, 10:33
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For one thing, having to go to the grocery store puts people at risk of contracting the virus, so the less often you have to go to the store, the better. Also, I think some people are trying to prepare in case they have to quarantine themselves and their families for two weeks. So I don't think that stocking up on toilet paper has much of anything to do with people expecting to get diarrhea from the virus.
May be, but the amount of TP some people buy would last them for months, even if they had 5 kids.....How many rolls a day does a regular family need?
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Woolworths Australia - note 'Easy Living' brand in both photos , plus my mate in Perth posted the same photo on facebook a week ago.

https://www.dailyexaminer.com.au/new...tions/3959057/
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The UK will be operating a herd immunity plan. The idea is to isolate the vulnerable to keep them safe, but allow the disease to spread in the healthy population. It's calculated that when 60% of the populate have had it, then herd immunity should drive down opportunities for spread such that the virus dies out.

The rest of the world is reducing opportunity for infection by shutting down (to an extent) their countries.

I say kudos to Britain for volunteering to act as the control group to the rest of the world. With a 1% death rate, that's still 400'000 dead. Let's see how the science pans out - shut down vs massive "chicken-pox" party.
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Woolworths Australia - note 'Easy Living' brand in both photos , plus my mate in Perth posted the same photo on facebook a week ago.

https://www.dailyexaminer.com.au/new...tions/3959057/
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Old 14.03.2020, 10:52
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Why the fek is everybody buying toilet paper anyways? It's not a diarrhoea virus FFS .. I was having dinner last night with Indian friends, oh how they laughed!!

PS : The guy in COOP stocking the shelves was also laughing, he said they had loads, just couldn't get it on the shelf quick enough.
It's a visual effect because it's a large item so more noticable. My local Tesco superstore in the UK always ran low of loo rolls on the shelves in the run up to any bank holiday when people buy one extra pack, but as the guy in Coop said to you, they usually have plenty in the storeroom. The media hype has created the panic buying in this case and it's probably the same people who run amok on Black Friday who are doing the buying.

Weirdly, my local shops ran low on loo rolls for a few days, but never on tissues. What does concern me is, I was talking to a friend in the UK last night who's a carer for vulnerable adults with learning difficulties. He always carries a large bottle of hand sanitiser but has been unable to get hold of any for two weeks and ran out completely this week. He'd put a bid in for a bottle on ebay that went for over £50 yesterday, so I told him how to make his own.
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The UK will be operating a herd immunity plan. The idea is to isolate the vulnerable to keep them safe, but allow the disease to spread in the healthy population. It's calculated that when 60% of the populate have had it, then herd immunity should drive down opportunities for spread such that the virus dies out.

The rest of the world is reducing opportunity for infection by shutting down (to an extent) their countries.

I say kudos to Britain for volunteering to act as the control group to the rest of the world. With a 1% death rate, that's still 400'000 dead. Let's see how the science pans out - shut down vs massive "chicken-pox" party.
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