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Old 16.09.2021, 11:23
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Sadly there’s been an increase in still born babies in the UK, attributed to some NHS consultations moving online.
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Sadly there’s been an increase in still born babies in the UK, attributed to some NHS consultations moving online.
This breaks my heart. I had a close relative who had a stillborn a few years ago.
I wonder how many were vaccinated? There are over 30,000 vaccinated women in the UK who have reported menstrual cycle changes after the vaccine. I am sure there are thousands more who have not reported it.
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Old 16.09.2021, 11:56
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If there are places where society is divided it's precisely bars and clubs. After 40 clubs are too noisy. Some cocktail bars serve undrinkable things at 15 CHF, conversations in bars in towns start with a who are you? with a not so friendly undertone, beer skewed bar, wine skewed bar, immigrant bar, low income bar, middle class bar, train station bar, smoking bars (I hope this doesn't trigger anyone).

The talk about retribution is interesting. We just had vacations, people with children cannot stop talking about them (not a complaint), work is more or less stressful, anecdotes from 20 years ago.....the things people talk along several drinks. Overall, it's a great thing people can get together, have a few drinks and let out all the stuff that bothers. It's damned healthy.
LOL, this just reminded me of the first chat-rooms in the nineties when windows would pop up: "m of f?". As these days everybody can define themselves as what ever they want, I would have thought conversation irl now start like that too.

"Who are you" is actually pretty deep. Some people try to figure that out all their lives.
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Old 16.09.2021, 12:07
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LOL, this just reminded me of the first chat-rooms in the nineties when windows would pop up: "m of f?". As these days everybody can define themselves as what ever they want, I would have thought conversation irl now start like that too.

"Who are you" is actually pretty deep. Some people try to figure that out all their lives.
Indeed, one time I answered sarcastically "if you want to know who am I, we need 2 bottles of the strongest drink in the bar". Though luck for me, the bar simpletons only meant where I was born and what is my beruf/boulot. Apparently those 2 things define who you are. No surprise why EXIT is popular
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Old 16.09.2021, 13:16
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I have mentioned this before but its not the non vaccinated that are causing the variants it is the vaccinated.

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Where on earth do you find this stuff?

If you are vaccinated then sure you have antigen-specific antibodies that will recognise the virus particles and attach themselves, this is why most vaccinated people when exposed to infection do not get infected.

If you are not vaccinated and get infected then your body creates antigen-specific antibodies just like your body creates such antigen-specific antibodies as a reaction to a vaccine. So if you survive you have antibodies that in the future will recognise the virus particles and attach themselves, this is why most people when exposed to infection again do not get infected.

There is no logical difference between antigen-specific antibodies produced as a reaction to a vaccine and those in response to an infection.
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Old 16.09.2021, 13:28
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There is no logical difference between antigen-specific antibodies produced as a reaction to a vaccine and those in response to an infection.
er no, the vaccine is entire programmed to make you react to the one spike protein.

People with natural immunity have been found to have antibodies that react to many other parts of the virus.

The day the virus manages to get rid of the spike protein, the vaxxed have zero protection.
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Old 16.09.2021, 13:31
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This breaks my heart. I had a close relative who had a stillborn a few years ago.
I wonder how many were vaccinated? There are over 30,000 vaccinated women in the UK who have reported menstrual cycle changes after the vaccine. I am sure there are thousands more who have not reported it.
I‘m sure none have reported it.

And there are no vaccinated women in the UK who have reported menstrual cycle changes.

My claims are as valid as yours - both are without a shred of evidence.
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Old 16.09.2021, 14:18
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er no, the vaccine is entire programmed to make you react to the one spike protein.

People with natural immunity have been found to have antibodies that react to many other parts of the virus.

The day the virus manages to get rid of the spike protein, the vaxxed have zero protection.
There are many coronavirus vaccines, only a couple focus on the spike protein.

If the coronavirus gets rid of the spike protein then it will no longer be a coronavirus

Coronaviruses are named for the spiky projections on their surface. These resemble the points on a crown. Corona means “crown” in Latin.
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Old 16.09.2021, 14:40
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If the coronavirus gets rid of the spike protein then it will no longer be a coronavirus

Coronaviruses are named for the spiky projections on their surface. These resemble the points on a crown. Corona means “crown” in Latin.
What you don't say?

Well, it's a relief to know that if the virus changes it's name then we won't need to worry about it any more.
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Old 23.09.2021, 10:56
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More indications that the virus may have been made in a lab.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/86390684.cms

It is alleged that scientists were planning to release an experimental virus into cave bats, but funding was refused by US sponsors.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/22/wuhan-...ses-into-bats/

https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-lab-w...s-show-1631784
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Old 23.09.2021, 11:01
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More indications that the virus may have been made in a lab.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/86390684.cms

Scientists were planning to release an experimental virus into cave bats, but funding was refused by US sponsors.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/22/wuhan-...ses-into-bats/
mmm, last year this would be construed as miss-information or a conspiracy theory.
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The Local reporting on Coronavirus. Norwegian health chief states it can now be compared to the flu. More info here:

https://www.thelocal.no/20210921/nor...ed-to-the-flu/
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Old 23.09.2021, 11:04
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mmm, last year this would be construed as miss-information or a conspiracy theory.
exactly, and now we have a forum policy that says such things are not allowed.
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Old 23.09.2021, 11:09
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The Local reporting on Coronavirus. Norwegian health chief states it can now be compared to the flu. More info here:

https://www.thelocal.no/20210921/nor...ed-to-the-flu/
We need to ban the Norwegian health chief from this forum for understating the risks of Covid.
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Old 23.09.2021, 11:12
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mmm, last year this would be construed as miss-information or a conspiracy theory.
It still is a conspiracy theory - it would clearly be a conspiracy to keep it buried were it true.

The difference is some conspiracy theories are plausible (ok perhaps not many, but this one is), whilst some (chemtrails, magnetic vaccines etc) aren't.
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Old 23.09.2021, 11:15
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It still is a conspiracy theory - it would clearly be a conspiracy to keep it buried were it true.

The difference is some conspiracy theories are plausible (ok perhaps not many, but this one is), whilst some (chemtrails, magnetic vaccines etc) aren't.
Well I'm double vaxxed, and yesterday a metal door slammed shut on me.
Just sayin'.........
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Old 23.09.2021, 11:17
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It still is a conspiracy theory - it would clearly be a conspiracy to keep it buried were it true.

The difference is some conspiracy theories are plausible (ok perhaps not many, but this one is), whilst some (chemtrails, magnetic vaccines etc) aren't.
I don't remember there being many discussions on chemtrails or magnetic vaccines on the EF.

So it would be plausible to assume that the ones they want to suppress are the plausible ones.

Not that I'm expecting Harold to come onto the forum and clarify.
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Old 23.09.2021, 11:55
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It still is a conspiracy theory - it would clearly be a conspiracy to keep it buried were it true.

The difference is some conspiracy theories are plausible (ok perhaps not many, but this one is), whilst some (chemtrails, magnetic vaccines etc) aren't.
When this was first suggested it sounded absolutely implausible and was thus a whacko theory, almost in the chemtrail category.

There still is no smoking gun, but more and more little indicators have surfaced that would make the theory seem much less whacko than it first appeared.

So what is an appropriate metric for plausibility in censoring the implausible?

How about people's own judgement maybe?
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