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Old 22.10.2021, 17:16
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The New York Times proving once again that it is no longer a serious newspaper. If the UK isn't careful then there's a chance the UK could reach the lowest confidence interval of the best case scenario predicted by SAGE



https://data.spectator.co.uk/category/sage-scenarios
This graph comes originally from here https://assets.publishing.service.go..._Statement.pdf so far as I can tell. It includes the red line and the text. But not the red splodge and the arrow.

Crucially:

If no further changes in behaviour or policy take place (other
than school holidays). Waning immunity is not considered. The projections represent what
the trajectory might be if the epidemic continued to follow the trends seen in the latest
available data up to 6th September. They are neither forecasts nor predictions

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Old 22.10.2021, 17:19
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The fake insert appears to be by one Christopher Snowdon, a maniacal twitterati. Of course anybody can bastardise anything they want before putting it online.
There's nothing fake about it, it's just displaying the recorded hospitalizations on that day in relation to the differing scenarios predicted by the UK government's scientific advisors.

Thanks to the vaccines, for now the link between cases and hospitalizations has been broken.
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Old 22.10.2021, 17:24
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There's nothing fake about it, it's just displaying the recorded hospitalizations on that day in relation to the differing scenarios predicted by the UK government's scientific advisors.

Thanks to the vaccines, for now the link between cases and hospitalizations has been broken.
I do not agree the New York Times is not serious when they simply printed the correct latest UK info on coronavirus cases.

I could understand if you had claimed that Sage is not serious when their scenario predictions were so wide of the mark.
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Old 22.10.2021, 17:29
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There's nothing fake about it, it's just displaying the recorded hospitalizations on that day in relation to the differing scenarios predicted by the UK government's scientific advisors.
The original document says these aren't predictions. A description of scenarios is a step before predictions or forecasts. It's to give an idea of what could happen. It's not saying it will happen.
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Old 22.10.2021, 17:36
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I do not agree the New York Times is not serious when they simply printed the correct latest UK info on coronavirus cases.

I could understand if you had claimed that Sage is not serious when their scenario predictions were so wide of the mark.
Exactly. Fact by fact:

New cases exceeded 50,000 on Thursday. True.
An 18 percent increase over the average number in the past week. True.
The second time cases had broken that psychological barrier since July. True.
The number of people admitted to hospitals rose 15.4 percent over the same period, reaching 959, True
15 people died of Covid-19, an increase of almost 11 percent. True
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Exactly. Fact by fact:

New cases exceeded 50,000 on Thursday. True.
An 18 percent increase over the average number in the past week. True.
The second time cases had broken that psychological barrier since July. True.
The number of people admitted to hospitals rose 15.4 percent over the same period, reaching 959, True
15 people died of Covid-19, an increase of almost 11 percent. True
U.K. 18% increase this week - Switzerland 27% 😳

https://lenews.ch/2021/10/22/covid-n...er-approaches/
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Old 23.10.2021, 07:56
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True, but hospitalisations are still going down.
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Old 23.10.2021, 10:59
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U.K. 18% increase this week - Switzerland 27% 😳

https://lenews.ch/2021/10/22/covid-n...er-approaches/
27% ! that is nothing, in Sweden new cases are up 40% on the last week.
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True, but hospitalisations are still going down.
As ever they will lag infections by a week or two.
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Old 23.10.2021, 18:45
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27% ! that is nothing, in Sweden new cases are up 40% on the last week.
That seems to be for region Skane (as in your link). the rest of Sweden seems stable for more than 3 weeks. BTW, I like the site. Looks better than Worldometer.
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Old 23.10.2021, 19:51
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As ever they will lag infections by a week or two.
If you check the figures here: https://ibz-shiny.ethz.ch/covid-19-re-international/ you'll see that there was a peak of infections ~20th August to 10th September, but the peak of hospitalisations at around 20th August went down.
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Old 23.10.2021, 23:59
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There's nothing fake about it
Actually it is, you made it look like the red dot was part of the original. And that's just the start, the rest has been remarked on already by NAT and marton.
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Old 24.10.2021, 11:02
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Re: Coronavirus

Just read in the Sunday Times the latest miracle treatment for Covid.

Hula Hoops



Information is lacking on the particular flavour.
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That seems to be for region Skane (as in your link). the rest of Sweden seems stable for more than 3 weeks
its so called martonscience. get used with this

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Old 24.10.2021, 21:48
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36 million+ people under quarantine. Surely must be 'fake news'.
As families tell of pneumonia-like deaths in Wuhan, some wonder if China virus count is too low
Chinese Defector reveals the truth of Covid origins:

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...rid=1301415884
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Old 24.10.2021, 21:55
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1. Joseph mercola
2. Robert f. Kennedy, jr.
3. Ty and charlene bollinger
4. Sherri tenpenny
5. Rizza islam
6. Rashid buttar
7. Erin elizabeth
8. Sayer ji
9. Kelly brogan
10. Christiane northrup
11. Ben tapper
12. Kevin jenkins

i've only heard of joseph "quack" mercola.
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chinese defector reveals the truth of covid origins:

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...rid=1301415884
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Old 24.10.2021, 22:28
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Chinese Defector reveals the truth of Covid origins:

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...rid=1301415884
An anti-vaxxer who promotes hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, how very credible.

This is over a year old stuff that has been comprehensively debunked.
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Old 24.10.2021, 22:31
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Chinese Defector reveals the truth of Covid origins:

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...rid=1301415884
Anyone could make such a claim, and her (Dr. Li-Meng Yan's) paper has not been peer-reviewed and there is no solid evidence to back her claims.

"The report was primarily authored by Yan and three other researchers who listed an affiliation with the Rule of Law Society on the cover page. The society is a political organization — not a research institution — that was founded by exiled Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui, who fled China in 2014 in advance of corruption charges, and Steve Bannon, an American businessman and political strategist who previously oversaw the far-right publication Breitbart News, and was recently arrested in connection to the “We Build The Wall” fraud scam." ...

"Yan appeared as a featured guest on the Sept. 15, 2020, episode of Fox News talk show “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” during which she claimed that she had evidence to suggest that the virus was intentionally manufactured and released by the Chinese Communist Party.

“I can present solid scientific evidence to our audience that this virus, SARS-CoV-2 virus, is actually not from nature,” she told the television host. “It is a man-made virus created in the lab based on the China … the very unique bat coronavirus, which cannot affect people, but after the modification becomes a very harmful virus.”

Source: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/li...-covid-19-lab/

She never did provide that "solid scientific evidence." And there is much more evidence, in fact, in support of the theory that the virus evolved from existing bat viruses. In her statement, she fails to acknowledge the fact that many bat viruses have long posed a threat to humans.

"It's no coincidence that some of the worst viral disease outbreaks in recent years -- SARS, MERS, Ebola, Marburg and likely the newly arrived 2019-nCoV virus -- originated in bats."
Source: https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0210144854.htm
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Re: Coronavirus

yes, nature builds things that sometimes doesn't follow it's own rules (roug players) - this one has 3-negative charged groups next to each other - must be one of the special funny quarks that changed their spin seeing Wuhan lab from the inside ...

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"It's no coincidence that some of the worst viral disease outbreaks in recent years -- SARS, MERS, Ebola, Marburg and likely the newly arrived 2019-nCoV virus -- originated in bats."
Source: https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0210144854.htm
Nah, coincidence is that US sponsored (and US banned) Gain-of-function research on corona viruses and bats happen to be in Wuhan ... imagine probability of that ...
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Old 25.10.2021, 00:15
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yes, nature builds things that sometimes doesn't follow it's own rules (roug players) - this one has 3-negative charged groups next to each other - must be one of the special funny quarks that changed their spin seeing Wuhan lab from the inside ...

Nah, coincidence is that US sponsored (and US banned) Gain-of-function research on corona viruses and bats happen to be in Wuhan ... imagine probability of that ...
Does this help, from 2006 "A number of conserved negatively charged amino acids are located within domain III in the carboxy end of all coronavirus N proteins."

Edit: More to the point "Although the total structural charge of SARS-Cov-2 is positive, the structural proteins of SARS-Cov-2 are carrying varied total electric charge related to the amino acid content.
The envelope, membrane and nucleocapsid proteins are positive, and the surface spike protein S is negative. The viral spike protein S is an essential component in the process of SARS-Cov-2 entering the cell. It contains 99 positively, and 111 negatively, charged amino acids."
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