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Well- here is my question. Why was it OK for you to be walking by the lake with your kids, in a place where there are many people? I know they are in the 'at risk group' and your kids are not ... but ?!?

Old people do not have access to computers, social media, etc - and they will die of depression and loneliness if they can't go out at all. Young people can go further away to walk in less busy, and less accessible places, perhaps?

I am not that old, have access to a computer 24/7, what's up, phones, skype, etc- can read, garden, walk in the woods- and I will NOT be one of the above- but ...

A young woman on a local FB group was complaining bitterly that she met a couple of families out for a walk- and felt they should not be there, where she was walking her dog. Why is her dog more important than the kids and family?
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I've now heard of several old people saying they've got the news, and it's okay, they know they're in the vulnerable group, but at 88, after a good or good-enough life, really, one has to die of something, so why not go out and do their thing, same as they ever did. That's a perspective that, perhaps, a 44-year-old or 33-year-old with an 11-year-old child, might not so readily be able to share.
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Future scenario. Virus forecast like the weather forecast. Monday all should stay at home . Tuesday is mild risk. Taking a walk is OK
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Old 17.03.2020, 19:01
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I went food shopping again this morning (I finally found the lactose-free milk my kids needed, they were starting to show withdrawal symptoms!), and Migros was full of old people.

Same thing this afternoon when we were starting to get cabin fever and we went for a walk by the lake. Elderly people everywhere, walking or sitting on benches.

Obviously they didn’t get the memo about risk groups and age... im starting to believe in natural selection!
If against all information they decide to do that then not much we can do. On the plus side, we'll benefit as the pension system will be relieved. (dark humor don't groan me)
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Old 17.03.2020, 19:02
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I upgraded to a full face mask since this could last a while:

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Some other stuff arrived as well!

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I feel like i'm being paranoid but i do tech service calls to med. centers and i still have to work, so..

Loads of people out today. Too many elderly people (that could probably postpone the appointment) in these places during an outbreak, imo.
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My wife encountered a nordic walker, with her poles held out horizontally shouting, ‘two metres, two metres’.
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Old 17.03.2020, 19:04
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We need to pace ourselves for the long term assuming our kids don't see the inside of a classroom for the rest of the school year. Its only week one and already they are going stir crazy and driving parents mad as they only get about 2 hours of homework to do.

So perhaps things like swimming pools could be opened for limited numbers of people on a rota basis with appropriate distancing, same with playgrounds etc.. Soft play centres probably not.
One of ours teachers sent over 3 pages of work. Like 15 minutes worth.

I'm actually thinking the weather might warm enough (for us scottish) to have the pool company come and open it early ..
Hey it's full of chlorine.. Should be fine eh.



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That was you!?

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Old 17.03.2020, 19:14
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I've now heard of several old people saying they've got the news, and it's okay, they know they're in the vulnerable group, but at 88, after a good or good-enough life, really, one has to die of something, so why not go out and do their thing, same as they ever did. That's a perspective that, perhaps, a 44-year-old or 33-year-old with an 11-year-old child, might not so readily be able to share.
I completely understand this point of view and would probably take it myself. However, its not much use when people know in reality they will be given treatment (until things are really bad) draining medical resources for everyone ultimately, maybe even indirectly causing the death of that younger 44 year old in your example.
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Old 17.03.2020, 19:19
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Re: Coronavirus

Totally get this too. My comment about was NOT a personal cristicism of Mélusine- but just to say very complex balances at the moment.

The elderly on Zimmerframes cannot go and walk in less accessible places- young people with young children can. Loneliness and depression, giving up - kills too. Peace. But I will personally not go walking anywhere where other people are likely to be- where I can't give them a very wide berth if I do by miracle meet someone, or where there may be 'elderly' people or young families.
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Old 17.03.2020, 19:21
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One of ours teachers sent over 3 pages of work. Like 15 minutes worth.

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Ours have been commendably pro-active:

Ours have given a full weeks of work and they'll get a new weeks worth next Monday.
Set up video conferencing in case the kids get stuck.
Put answer sheets in dropbox so parents can check, if needed.
Given out a bag full of work material to each child (given at the school at staggered intervals).
Music lessons by Skype.
Contact with the teachers available by phone or video from morning until 18.00 every night.
And there's a whole sheet of project work if they need more.

Trying to convince the kids that they are not actually on holiday is another matter entirely.
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Old 17.03.2020, 19:24
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2 meter distance guaranteed.

https://www.amazon.com/BDSM-Fetish-L.../dp/B07W98KRMJ
Now I've clicked on that, I'm going to get bombarded with personalised adverts:

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Old 17.03.2020, 19:24
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I went food shopping again this morning (I finally found the lactose-free milk my kids needed, they were starting to show withdrawal symptoms!), and Migros was full of old people.

Same thing this afternoon when we were starting to get cabin fever and we went for a walk by the lake. Elderly people everywhere, walking or sitting on benches.

Obviously they didn’t get the memo about risk groups and age... im starting to believe in natural selection!
They may be the risk group but you and your children are the danger.
As you and your kids most likely will survive this and have lots of time to enjoy the sun while the elderly (whether they survive the virus or not) do not have that much time in the sun left - who should stay at home?

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I've now heard of several old people saying they've got the news, and it's okay, they know they're in the vulnerable group, but at 88, after a good or good-enough life, really, one has to die of something, so why not go out and do their thing, same as they ever did. That's a perspective that, perhaps, a 44-year-old or 33-year-old with an 11-year-old child, might not so readily be able to share.
That's exactly what a 75 year old friend said to me. And I know he means it too. That doesn't mean he will go search for an infection, he just refuses to panic.

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One of ours teachers sent over 3 pages of work. Like 15 minutes worth.

I'm actually thinking the weather might warm enough (for us scottish) to have the pool company come and open it early ..
Hey it's full of chlorine.. Should be fine eh.

First world problems..
You seem to have a lot of private space and gadgets to keep your kids happy. Many will envy them for that. It's cool, you should get that pool up and running, is it not heated? Time to get a solar pool heating system? Keeps daddy entertained as well.

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2 meter distance guaranteed.

https://www.amazon.com/BDSM-Fetish-L.../dp/B07W98KRMJ
Make sure to disinfect it when putting it back to it's original use.
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Old 17.03.2020, 19:28
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Trying to convince the kids that they are not actually on holiday is another matter entirely.
This^

I came home from work yesterday to find a house full of teenagers. Son apparently decided to host a "Spring Break" movie marathon.
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Old 17.03.2020, 19:30
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I saw one guy in the supermarket with his trolley piled high with disinfectant wipes, soap and hand cleanser, so I really laid in to him, telling him how selfish he was, and putting people who really need that stuff at risk. He just said "Yeah mate, I know. But if you'll just let me finish stacking the shelves..."
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There are other stories of people taking stuff out of other peoples' trolleys too.
Just tell 'em you just licked it. Like we used to do as kids to stop other kids nicking our sweets.

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However, institutions are required to postpone non-urgent procedures.
Yep - just had my cataract operations - scheduled yesterday - cancelled today. As we all expected to happen of course.
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Old 17.03.2020, 19:31
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Ours have been commendably pro-active:

Ours have given a full weeks of work and they'll get a new weeks worth next Monday.
Set up video conferencing in case the kids get stuck.
Put answer sheets in dropbox so parents can check, if needed.
Given out a bag full of work material to each child (given at the school at staggered intervals).
Music lessons by Skype.
Contact with the teachers available by phone or video from morning until 18.00 every night.
And there's a whole sheet of project work if they need more.

Trying to convince the kids that they are not actually on holiday is another matter entirely.
I think we'll get there.. One of the teachers was off on Friday, she's catching up, 'stuff will come soon' .. The other sent the first pages today. I'm sure they'll get there, it's tough for them too. Working from home is second nature for me but this is probably completely new territory to these teachers.

Mine are only in P3 & P5 so it's not critical .. The big thing is trying to keep them speaking / hearing / reading French..There's plenty material but keeping them interested is a challenge. Normally they're at separate schools, only speaking FR all day, here they spend the day in EN.
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I think we'll get there.. One of the teachers was off on Friday, she's catching up, 'stuff will come soon' .. The other sent the first pages today. I'm sure they'll get there, it's tough for them too. Working from home is second nature for me but this is probably completely new territory to these teachers.

Mine are only in P3 & P5 so it's not critical .. The big thing is trying to keep them speaking / hearing / reading French..There's plenty material but keeping them interested is a challenge. Normally they're at separate schools, only speaking FR all day, here they spend the day in EN.
Working from home isn't new territory for teachers - it's where the bulk of the planning, prep and marking happens after all - it's the potential online teaching from home that is the issue.
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Old 17.03.2020, 19:51
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Working from home isn't new territory for teachers - it's where the bulk of the planning, prep and marking happens after all - it's the potential online teaching from home that is the issue.
I wonder if they actually do online-teaching here. John_H keeps saying they "sent" stuff. To me that sounds they just mail jobs to do, which they normally hand out on paper. Also, with proper online teaching the children wouldn't forget their French? (Yeah, well, they won't anyway within a few weeks but he mentioned he's concerned about it).
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