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Re: Coronavirus

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The European Union’s industry chief has called on Netflix and other streaming services to take action to reduce congestion on the internet, amid surging demand as millions of people confined to their homes go online.

Thierry Breton, the European commissioner for industry, told Netflix chief executive Reed Hastings that he and other operators should take responsibility for preventing internet congestion by switching to standard definition rather than high definition.

In a statement released after the discussion, Breton said:

"Streaming platforms, telecom operators and users, we all have a joint responsibility to take steps to ensure the smooth functioning of the internet during the battle against the virus propagation."

The commission would also like internet users to reduce their data consumption, by using Wi-FI or choosing lower resolution for content.

The coronavirus has led to a spike in internet usage, as parents working at home make video conference calls, while children log on for online lessons or digital games.

Vodafone this week reported a 50% increase in internet usage in some European countries. The company, the world’s second largest mobile operator, said in the UK data usage increases are starting much earlier in the day, from lunchtime, although peak usage remains 6pm to 8pm.

A Netflix spokesman told the Financial Times the company already had ways to ease the weight of traffic, pointing to its “adaptive streaming” that adjusts the resolution of a video to the bandwidth available in the area.

The commission said Reed and Breton would speak again in the coming days to discuss “actionable outcome”.
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This home schooling is not really working either:

A friend of mine has suspended two pupils for fighting and fired the teacher for drinking on the job.

Or as Lin-Manuel Miranda put it when asked how it was going as he was trying to home school his children now that NYC schools are closed:

"Teachers deserve to make a billion dollars a year".
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Old 19.03.2020, 13:32
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The European Union’s industry chief has called on Netflix and other streaming services to take action to reduce congestion on the internet, amid surging demand as millions of people confined to their homes go online.

The commission would also like internet users to reduce their data consumption, by using Wi-FI or choosing lower resolution for content.

Vodafone this week reported a 50% increase in internet usage in some European countries.


Seems to be talking about only mobile internet.
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Re: Coronavirus

Well, out here in the sticks we are still friendly to each other, having a banter, helping the "outsiders" to stop looking for Ciabatta as this little shop doesn't have it at the best of times.
When I arrived, there was police there but it seemed it was a non-corona-problem they had to solve. They left minutes later.

Most stuff is available. My olive-oil is out but I admit, I don't really need to buy it in the next two weeks. The toilet paper thing I seriously don't understand. Yep, the shelves were all empty from afar, the only section so yawningly void and one guy managed to grab the rest which was definitely more than he actually has use for over the week-end. I just laughed. (So did he, when he looked up from his task of trying to figure out how to carry the packs).

I hope this thing won't retrigger a trauma with the people from the Ex-DDR - the bananas are OUT.

There was a leaflet in my mailbox from the "Ortsverein" (local association - yep, we're tiny but we got such a thing), offering help with shopping, obtaining medication, looking after kids, answer questions about how to install online-shops, skype etc. Installing online-shops? Gonna be a hamlet of start-ups after the crisis.

I don't understand people complaining about others being outside. It's actually the best place to meet (keeping at a distance). And the ones who are scared the most should be friendlier than ever, I'd say. As, should you not survive it, it might be your last laugh with a stranger.
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Old 19.03.2020, 13:45
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Remember keep Safe none of this none of this and none of this you have to make sure of this and this and in time we can get back to

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I don't understand people complaining about others being outside. It's actually the best place to meet (keeping at a distance). And the ones who are scared the most should be friendlier than ever, I'd say. As, should you not survive it, it might be your last laugh with a stranger.
We don't really mind people being outside, but at a lot of places people still group up. Now if we are responsible as a population and keep distances and all such there is no need for tighter rules and we all can go for a nice sunny walk when wanted. However if we keep grouping up and numbers keep rising the consequence will be a further lock-down where taking a sunny outside walk just for fun is prohibited and we need to have a paper with destination and such in our pocket while tied to a nearby supermarket and hardly anywhere else to go.

So yeah I absolutely hate those people still meeting up in the park for some fun with a group of 15 friends. They kill the fun for everybody, as for me police should just use a stick to set them apart without warning upfront.
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Re: Coronavirus

Perhaps, for the ones having a hard time understanding how to deal with this infection. How the to enact measures and put technology we have at hand in place to control contagion.. check this (from a remote and complete other culture):


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Re: Coronavirus

The daily numbers are in, we're at 3888 cases and 33 dead. Looks like BAG/OFSP are really having trouble coping with compiling the numbers but being up 800 cases in a day is nothing to sneeze at. We'll be in Italy territory by the end of next week if this continues. Tessin is predicted to be out of beds by early next week.
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The daily numbers are in, we're at 3888 cases and 33 dead. Looks like BAG/OFSP are really having trouble coping with compiling the numbers but being up 800 cases in a day is nothing to sneeze at. We'll be in Italy territory by the end of next week if this continues. Tessin is predicted to be out of beds by early next week.
Yes, but what the Swiss are trying to do is to flatten the curve of infections. I certainly haven’t been able to spread or catch the virus in the last 48 hours and I suspect this is the same of many residents.

We likely will ALL get it at some stage, but the priority is to not overwhelm the health services.

I am (almost) 65 and have two underlying health issues. Both well under control but I do have them.

But in 6 months time we will look at this and say, thank goodness the flattened the curve.
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Old 19.03.2020, 14:50
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Re: Coronavirus

I apologize if someone has posted this already, but I came across an article in The Local a bit ago that has a pretty good explanation about the current rules for being outdoors...

"Coronavirus: What are the rules in Switzerland for spending time outdoors?"

https://www.thelocal.ch/20200318/swi...-time-outdoors
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Re: Coronavirus

Latest update today 19th March :

New coronavirus:
The Federal Council makes rules and prohibitions
The Federal Council wants to protect all people in Switzerland. That is why the Federal Council has declared:
Switzerland is now in an extraordinary situation.
This means: There are new and stricter rules.
These rules apply for all people in Switzerland!
Why is the Federal Council doing this?
• The new disease is spreading very quickly. A lot of people are getting sick.
• It wants to protect people at risk.
• It wants there to be enough hospital beds for all seriously ill people.
• It wants there to be enough medicine for everybody.
This means it is very important that:
• All people in Switzerland stick to the rules!
• All people help to prevent people at risk from getting sick.
Entering Switzerland
People from these countries are no longer permitted to enter Switzerland: • Italy
• Germany • France
• Austria
These are currently the countries.
It is possible that more countries will be added to the list.
Why are these people not permitted to enter Switzerland?
• To ensure that the disease doesn't spread even more.
• To ensure that there are enough hospital beds for all seriously ill people in Switzer- land.
• To ensure that there is enough medicine for everybody.
• But there are some exceptions.
For example: If someone works in Switzerland. Or lives in Switzerland. Then they can still enter Switzerland.
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Rules for all people and for all organisations
Schools
All schools are closed.
Children may no longer go to school.
It is forbidden.
All children must stay at home.
There is one exception:
Parents who must work and cannot stay with their children. In this case, the school must look after the children.
This rule applies until 19 April 2020.
Events, activities and businesses
All public and private events are forbidden. All sports events and club activities too. For example:
• Football matches
• Dancing courses
• Boy scouts and girl guides
• Birthday parties
A lot of businesses and facilities are closed. For example:
• Department stores
• Restaurants
• Swimming baths
• Theatres and cinemas
• Museums and zoos
• Hairdressers
• Massage studios
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What is very important: All shops remain open that are important for daily life.
These shops, businesses and establishments remain open:
• Shops where you buy food
For example: Coop, Migros, Denner, kiosks
• T akeaways
For example: Pizza-delivery services, Brezel-König, work canteens, meal-delivery services
• Pharmacies and drugstores
• Shops where you buy medical aids
For example: Glasses, hearing aids
• All care facilities
For example: Retirement homes, homes for the handicapped
• Post offices
• Banks
• Petrol stations
• Railway stations
• Hospitals and doctors' surgeries
• Hotels
• Authorities
All these shops, businesses and establishments must stick to all the new rules. What is very important: All people must keep their distance from other people.
At least 2 metres is best.
That is why it is important that not too many people are in a shop at the same time. This rule applies until 19 April 2020.
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People especially at risk
Are you over 65?
People with the following conditions are also at risk:
• High blood pressure
• Diabetes
• Cardiovascular problems
• Respiratory problems
• For example: Asthma
• Diseases and therapies that weaken your immune system
• Cancer
If so, it is now very important:
• To stay at home and not go out!
• To no longer meet up with other people.
Employers must protect people at risk.
People especially at risk must work from home. If you cannot work from home:
You must stay at home anyway.
You may now no longer go to work.
Your employer must allow you to do this.
And your employer will continue to pay your salary. Are you especially at risk?
Then tell your employer.
Perhaps you will need a sick note from your doctor.
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Looking after sick people
Seriously ill people must go into hospital.
There are public hospitals and private hospitals.
Seriously ill people are being treated in a public hospital.
It is possible that private hospitals will also have to treat seriously ill people. The canton will decide.
Doctors in hospitals and doctors' surgeries
may only treat people if it is really urgent. Otherwise not at all.
This also applies for dentists.
Fines
All people must adhere to the bans. Anyone who doesn't will get a fine. This can be a monetary fine or prison.
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Re: Coronavirus

National confinement has been raised at the OFSP press conference, and the answer is "the Federal Council will decide, but we can take all the measures we want, if people don't respect them, they're useless".

I'm really concerned that we'll get to the stage where people deemed too old or having preconditions will be denied care because of triage having to be taken. It's not that far off if idiots keep hanging out outside so much.

Also I'm wondering how far back they're going to peel civil rights, what with it being impossible to collect signatures for referendums now, and the May vote being pushed back, to an unsaid date (depends of course on when the epidemic in the countriy is over). Do remember, the army has been called up, and that includes combat troops. Depending on how bad the situation gets, they already will have deadly force available, not that it seems at all likely this early on.

Also of note: there are some people in their 20s and 30s in intensive care from the virus right now. Everyone is at risk, no one's immune.
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Old 19.03.2020, 15:16
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Re: Coronavirus

Some virus schadenfreude to keep us all amused

A neighbour of mine drove down to Spain in mid-January for a month's holiday; now he is stuck in a tiny holiday apartment with wife and dog for the foreseeable future, every time he tries to go outside police cars drive by and shout at them through loudspeakers.

The apartment house I live in is in two parts with common access via the ground floor but separated above. Each part has its own lift.
The residents in the other part decided their lift was noisy and decided to replace it, they tried to persuade us in our part to change our lift but we are mostly old and do not hear our lift so declined.
So their old lift has been removed and the new one is being installed. Today the workmen told us they probably will not be able to finish the installation.
When this lockdown gets too boring we can go and watch our neighbours struggling their shopping up 5 floors.

Finally, my summer tires and wheels are sitting in a tire garage in Germany.
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Also of note: there are some people in their 20s and 30s in intensive care from the virus right now. Everyone is at risk, no one's immune.
Would be nice to quantify their condition before they got the virus though.


From what I have read and seen, and I am not defending this position, the people ending up in hospital and dying are the elderly and ill.
There are things on the internet saying the Italian hospitals are full of younger people as well. But I've not seen anything from any 'official' source.
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The daily numbers are in, we're at 3888 cases and 33 dead. Looks like BAG/OFSP are really having trouble coping with compiling the numbers but being up 800 cases in a day is nothing to sneeze at. We'll be in Italy territory by the end of next week if this continues. Tessin is predicted to be out of beds by early next week.
The bit i am not understanding is, why we get these surges on one day... then flatten out the next couple of days.
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The bit i am not understanding is, why we get these surges on one day... then flatten out the next couple of days.
Results are not bundled at regular intervals, also not each kanton is able to gather and push-out daily counts. also there is no steady fixed amount of tests per day.

Numbers are not exact, they are more to be taken as a general impression.
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People over 65 years old in Kanton Uri now have a curfew and are not allowed out apart from two hours a day alone or in pairs for walking themselves and/or pets.


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Re: Coronavirus

There'll be a Federal Council press conference tomorrow (I bet it won't start before 17:00!) and another one Saturday either of BAG/OFSP or FedCo.

Uri just became the first canton to confine people older than 65. This starts today at 18:00.
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Results are not bundled at regular intervals, also not each kanton is able to gather and push-out daily counts. also there is no steady fixed amount of tests per day.

Numbers are not exact, they are more to be taken as a general impression.
Apparently the reporting system operates by fax. Probably takes the millenials a couple of hours to work out how to use one.
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Re: Coronavirus

Afternoon all - so what's the level of Corrie fallout in your area today ?

Has anyone ventured outside their Corrie fallout shelters today ?
I see the Bank of England has done another emergency rate cut from 0.25 per cent down to 0.1 per cent.

Soon you will have to pay British building Societies interest to keep money in their savings accounts.
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